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Post by thevoid on Jan 30, 2013 0:52:40 GMT
The only person who was the subject of any booing was the manager, not the players.
That's why the loudest jeers were for the N'Zonzi substitution, and why (in our section anyway) Adam and N'Zonzi were clapped off.
And judging by the reactions and body language of the players tonight, I'm certain they know this to be the case and that we're still with THEM.
Cracking first half by Adam by the way, I hope that pissed on a few agendas.
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Post by Panda on Jan 30, 2013 1:55:40 GMT
Did you canvas everybody's opinion??
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 30, 2013 1:57:56 GMT
I thought Adam did well too for the most part, but one game proves nothing, he needs to do it more often.
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Post by thevoid on Jan 30, 2013 2:02:09 GMT
Did you canvas everybody's opinion?? Oh, were you booing the players then? Nice one.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2013 2:13:04 GMT
According to the mirror Adam isn't on the managers agenda either
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 30, 2013 2:13:55 GMT
According to the mirror Adam isn't on the managers agenda either And rightly so, he's gash, he dropped a bollock signing him in the first place.
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Post by Panda on Jan 30, 2013 2:18:03 GMT
Did you canvas everybody's opinion?? Oh, were you booing the manager then? Nice one.
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Jan 30, 2013 3:38:52 GMT
Lets hope the capped one got the message that the support is getting fed up shelling out to watch the parody he thinks is football. The majority have had enough and have no other way of letting him know. The arrogant twat doesnt give a shit though and nothing will change. Its like watching paint dry but marginally less entertaining.
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Post by thevoid on Jan 30, 2013 12:39:30 GMT
Oh, were you booing the manager then? Nice one. Yes, with good cause. And there plenty of others alongside me.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 30, 2013 12:44:18 GMT
According to the mirror Adam isn't on the managers agenda either I've missed this, (done a search can't find anything) anybody got a link please? ???
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Post by Davef on Jan 30, 2013 12:48:53 GMT
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jan 30, 2013 12:51:56 GMT
The players were as much to blame for that 2nd half last night as Pulis. There was no fight and the general play was wank. Don't let that stop you putting it all on the manager though eh. I didn't boo either by the way because it achieves next to fuck all. Sad,very sad.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 30, 2013 12:53:32 GMT
John Cross is a London based Arsenal rimming hack isn't he?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2013 12:55:58 GMT
The only person who was the subject of any booing was the manager, not the players. That's why the loudest jeers were for the N'Zonzi substitution, and why (in our section anyway) Adam and N'Zonzi were clapped off. And judging by the reactions and body language of the players tonight, I'm certain they know this to be the case and that we're still with THEM. Cracking first half by Adam by the way, I hope that pissed on a few agendas. +1 There must have been fuck going on all under that cap last night; an abject display of managerial quality and the use of substitutions.
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Post by Davef on Jan 30, 2013 12:56:25 GMT
The players were as much to blame for that 2nd half last night as Pulis. There was no fight and the general play was wank. Don't let that stop you putting it all on the manager though eh. I didn't boo either by the way because it achieves next to fuck all. Sad,very sad. The general play is wank pretty much every week though isn't it? Our inability to pass, make space, move and generally show the kind of basic quality that the vast majority of Premier League teams show week in week out is embarrassing at times. Our lack of pace is a disgrace for a team at this level. That's down to the manager and his coaching staff. When there is no fight, that's also down to a manager's motivational skills. Of course it's wrong to lay the blame entirely on a manager's door and players will occasionally have off-days, but there have been far too many off-days for my liking this last season and a half.
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Post by Davef on Jan 30, 2013 12:57:21 GMT
John Cross is a London based Arsenal rimming hack isn't he? Who has a lot of time for Stoke City and is very complimentary towards TP.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2013 12:57:39 GMT
And what's all this about Darren Bent?
We're hopefully going to offload one lazy forward - do we need another?
Fuck Bent, get Benteke.....
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 30, 2013 12:57:59 GMT
It's really clever how people can pitch their boo's so that the players know it's not aimed at them.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 30, 2013 12:59:04 GMT
John Cross is a London based Arsenal rimming hack isn't he? Who has a lot of time for Stoke City and is very complimentary towards TP. Indeed he's never off the radio, I've just never had him down as the oracle of the midlands transfer scene to be honest.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 30, 2013 13:01:42 GMT
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Post by onionman on Jan 30, 2013 13:04:54 GMT
If the crux of that Mirror story turns out to be correct, I will eat my own head.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Jan 30, 2013 13:08:07 GMT
I've never worked out why supporters haven't learned to trust Pulis.
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Post by landofhopeandglory on Jan 30, 2013 13:09:48 GMT
yes the adam haters had a night off, bless them
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jan 30, 2013 13:10:49 GMT
The players were as much to blame for that 2nd half last night as Pulis. There was no fight and the general play was wank. Don't let that stop you putting it all on the manager though eh. I didn't boo either by the way because it achieves next to fuck all. Sad,very sad. I read something similar last night from one of our posters from Toronto if memory serves me right. I must remember that when we win it is all down to TP and when we lose we must look at the players. It sort of covers it all off for the people who have forgotten they support the club not the manager.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jan 30, 2013 13:14:27 GMT
The players were as much to blame for that 2nd half last night as Pulis. There was no fight and the general play was wank. Don't let that stop you putting it all on the manager though eh. I didn't boo either by the way because it achieves next to fuck all. Sad,very sad. I read something similar last night from one of our posters from Toronto if memory serves me right. I must remember that when we win it is all down to TP and when we lose we must look at the players. It sort of covers it all off for the people who have forgotten they support the club not the manager. What a load of bollox. They (TP and players) are a team. They are all responsible if it be win, lose or draw. Makes you wonder why positive posts get shit binned yet the negative shit stays?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jan 30, 2013 13:21:57 GMT
I read something similar last night from one of our posters from Toronto if memory serves me right. I must remember that when we win it is all down to TP and when we lose we must look at the players. It sort of covers it all off for the people who have forgotten they support the club not the manager. What a load of bollox. They (TP and players) are a team. They are all responsible if it be win, lose or draw. Makes you wonder why positive posts get shit binned yet the negative shit stays? In the world I live in, the manager/management take the responsibility because they set the agenda. They bring in the players/employees to carry out their strategy/instruction. I suspect you wouldn't be so generous in spreading around the responsibility if we were discussing a two nil victory today. In terms of shit binned posts; are we discussing why your abusive posts where you lose the ability to tolerate opposing opinions to your own end up there again?
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Post by Davef on Jan 30, 2013 13:22:46 GMT
I read something similar last night from one of our posters from Toronto if memory serves me right. I must remember that when we win it is all down to TP and when we lose we must look at the players. It sort of covers it all off for the people who have forgotten they support the club not the manager. What a load of bollox. They (TP and players) are a team. They are all responsible if it be win, lose or draw. Makes you wonder why positive posts get shit binned yet the negative shit stays? Okay, link me to one of these so-called positive threads that have been moved to the shit bin. And by positive threads I don't mean attention seeking nonsense about not posting on here any more because of others' negativity.
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Post by onionman on Jan 30, 2013 13:42:30 GMT
I've never worked out why supporters haven't learned to trust Pulis. I've lost confidence in the direction he's taking us, mate, and I've always been a firm supporter of his methods and football philosophy. During previous bad patches, I've had faith he's still taking us forward in the long-term because he's consistently improved our squad by signing better players. Apart from Nzonzi, he's stopped doing that in the past couple of years. Even the best managers make the odd poor signing, but spending all that money on Crouch and Adam was the work of a mad man, the entire rest of the football world could see Owen wouldn't work at Stoke, and I don't buy the theory he was unlucky with Palacios. I am now hoping he will prove me wrong the same way he's repeatedly proved many others wrong over the past decade. Of course, if that happens I will be the first person to slag myself off and tell me: "I told you so."
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jan 30, 2013 13:53:57 GMT
I've lost confidence in the direction he's taking us, mate, and I've always been a firm supporter of his methods and football philosophy. This is normally the time when he does something though to be fair. When the tide slowly seems to be turning against them and there appears to be civil unrest on the horizon he goes out and signs someone who galvanizes the club, the team and the fans. I think he'll do it again before (or to be honest probably after) 11pm tomorrow evening and there will be renewed optimism again. We'll get a draw on saturday and turn the corner again.
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Post by stokemachine on Jan 30, 2013 13:57:03 GMT
[/quote] I've lost confidence in the direction he's taking us, mate, and I've always been a firm supporter of his methods and football philosophy.
During previous bad patches, I've had faith he's still taking us forward in the long-term because he's consistently improved our squad by signing better players.
Apart from Nzonzi, he's stopped doing that in the past couple of years. Even the best managers make the odd poor signing, but spending all that money on Crouch and Adam was the work of a mad man, the entire rest of the football world could see Owen wouldn't work at Stoke, and I don't buy the theory he was unlucky with Palacios.
I am now hoping he will prove me wrong the same way he's repeatedly proved many others wrong over the past decade.
Of course, if that happens I will be the first person to slag myself off and tell me: "I told you so."[/quote]
This. Well said.
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