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Post by Kjones9 on Jan 20, 2013 14:55:13 GMT
Then you have about 200,000 other Stoke Supporters in the City and beyond, of which 95% will say NO. And you know this how?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 20, 2013 14:55:46 GMT
No.
Yet another bull shit thread.
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Post by stokemachine on Jan 20, 2013 15:19:46 GMT
No... But he needs to evolve. Attacking wing play with a bit of pace and flair added to the mix out wide on both flanks and up top. Would make a massive difference. If this isn't achieved during the next 2 transfer windows then we should start looking for a replacement.
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Post by s7oke on Jan 20, 2013 15:20:11 GMT
No
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Post by s7oke on Jan 20, 2013 15:20:33 GMT
No
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Post by s7oke on Jan 20, 2013 15:20:52 GMT
And no
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Post by dutchstokie on Jan 20, 2013 15:22:48 GMT
Stoke games are that boring Ive had to resort to actually talking to the missus...so on that basis yes.
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Post by eastbelfaststokie on Jan 20, 2013 15:58:19 GMT
its a big yes from me
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 20, 2013 16:03:47 GMT
No
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Post by stokie25 on Jan 20, 2013 17:31:18 GMT
Having read every post on this thread it is evident that the overwhelming reason people want to stick with Pulis is because they feel relegation will come quickly if he leaves. I can't understand how so many people are crippled by this ridiculous fear. Those like the poster above who says no other manager could take Pulis's team without jeopardising our premiership survival are wrong. We have plenty good enough players now to play a more expansive system effectively and all it needs is the best players to play in the positions to which they are best suited. But just suppose for a minute this was true, Pulis is then guilty of building a flimsy and precarious structure with the millions that he has been given that is totally and utterly reliant on him and would collapse the moment he is dispensed with. Is that the sort of manager we should idolise? Thanks to Peter Coates we have a club that would be very attractive for a top manager ,maybe a manager we have never even heard of? BM Because this is TP's team who play how TP wants them to. Another manager with another style would last as quickly as Sammy Lee did at Bolton & I see no point getting in a different manager with the same style. TP is not leaving until PC is no longer chairman & even then if 'the Coates family' are still in charge they may have the same view of TP that PC does. When TP goes the next manger will be on a hiding to nothing. I do not believe for one minute that the Coates family carry the same regard for Pulis as Peter does, in fact, I'm convinced they don't. Therefore, Pulis is safe insofar as Peter carries the final word and those days are numbered
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Post by luke2u on Jan 20, 2013 17:44:36 GMT
Yes, and I've said it from day one.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 20, 2013 17:53:38 GMT
No.
Reassess at seasons end.
If we are still as disunited of the pitch and disjointed on it then I think it may be best for all concerned.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 17:57:28 GMT
I don't like manager changes, it can destablise clubs
I'm close to saying, TP out, but I wont, but this brand of football is very boring, its not exciting anymore
TP got away with it for the first 2 seasons as we were still adjusting to the Prem, then the third season we got to the FA Cup final, and I will forever be grateful to TP for that
its not about playing 'football' the purists would want, its about playing players in their right positions and making the most of what we've got, with, at times some attacking intent
we needed pace yesterday to compliment our style of play, and we decide to pick Crouch
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Post by owdestokie on Jan 20, 2013 17:58:17 GMT
Shit thread...Absolutely NO
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 17:58:42 GMT
No
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 20, 2013 18:00:39 GMT
I don't like manager changes, it can destablise clubs I'm close to saying, TP out, but I wont, but this brand of football is very boring, its not exciting anymore TP got away with it for the first 2 seasons as we were still adjusting to the Prem, then the third season we got to the FA Cup final, and I will forever be grateful to TP for that its not about playing 'football' the purists would want, its about playing players in their right positions and making the most of what we've got, with, at times some attacking intent we needed pace yesterday to compliment our style of play, and we decide to pick Crouch Agree 100%. A massive part of my reluctance to boot him out is that I think our continuity and stability has been a major factor in our success. If we appointed the wrong man after Pulis then we could easily see an implosion of true Stoke City proportions.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Jan 20, 2013 18:01:26 GMT
a s*** thread with 344 replies?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 18:05:40 GMT
a valid thread bunny, but that's just my opinion
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Post by biganddaft on Jan 20, 2013 18:08:12 GMT
And the rimmers claim the wankstains are incapable of debate!
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jan 20, 2013 18:09:33 GMT
a valid thread bunny, but that's just my opinion A poll would have been better unless someone wants to count the replies?
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Post by mrrburgundy on Jan 20, 2013 18:11:19 GMT
No. You have got to admire Pulis for sticking to his principles and not being influenced by the outside world. History suggests, on average, he's been a success for this football club. His style is not for everyone but its been effective up to now. Where has all the euphoria gone from less than a month ago after we'd beaten Liverpool so well? Luckily we have people in charge of our club who are acutely aware of the dangers of getting carried with the emotions of winning and losing. Judge Pulis on his long term performance for the club, not on a tiny percentage of his time in charge. Or if you prefer, be short termist, but that is when good managers get sacked.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 18:15:06 GMT
have to admit, a decent post by mrrburgundy
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Post by jmw on Jan 20, 2013 18:21:33 GMT
No. You have got to admire Pulis for sticking to his principles and not being influenced by the outside world. History suggests, on average, he's been a success for this football club. His style is not for everyone but its been effective up to now. Where has all the euphoria gone from less than a month ago after we'd beaten Liverpool so well? Luckily we have people in charge of our club who are acutely aware of the dangers of getting carried with the emotions of winning and losing. Judge Pulis on his long term performance for the club, not on a tiny percentage of his time in charge. Or if you prefer, be short termist, but that is when good managers get sacked. Well said
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Post by stillgame4it on Jan 20, 2013 18:25:55 GMT
Yes - at end of season
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 18:31:06 GMT
No. You have got to admire Pulis for sticking to his principles and not being influenced by the outside world. History suggests, on average, he's been a success for this football club. His style is not for everyone but its been effective up to now. Where has all the euphoria gone from less than a month ago after we'd beaten Liverpool so well? Luckily we have people in charge of our club who are acutely aware of the dangers of getting carried with the emotions of winning and losing. Judge Pulis on his long term performance for the club, not on a tiny percentage of his time in charge. Or if you prefer, be short termist, but that is when good managers get sacked. He hasn't stuck to his principles and he has been influenced by the outside world. That's the problem! Ever since we got into this league we have been slated by the press for our style of football and in every transfer window Pulis has signed footballers who don't fit our style - by and large! Had he stuck to his principles and signed the players that fit his system none of us would be having this discussion!
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Post by tcdobinghoff on Jan 20, 2013 18:33:03 GMT
A qualified NO from me.
We do need to change and if TP can't by the end of this season I think he may have gone as far as he can.
I don't mind so-called pulisball but there doesn't seem to be any pace or movement from the players and we don't seem to offer anything going forward until we are behind. Passing and moving is basic no matter how a team is set up - my question is why don't we do it ??
If it's TPs approach rather than the ability of the players then I can't support him. We need better coaching and TP may need help with that. Can he cope with that ??
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Post by mrrburgundy on Jan 20, 2013 18:55:43 GMT
No. You have got to admire Pulis for sticking to his principles and not being influenced by the outside world. History suggests, on average, he's been a success for this football club. His style is not for everyone but its been effective up to now. Where has all the euphoria gone from less than a month ago after we'd beaten Liverpool so well? Luckily we have people in charge of our club who are acutely aware of the dangers of getting carried with the emotions of winning and losing. Judge Pulis on his long term performance for the club, not on a tiny percentage of his time in charge. Or if you prefer, be short termist, but that is when good managers get sacked. He hasn't stuck to his principles and he has been influenced by the outside world. That's the problem! Ever since we got into this league we have been slated by the press for our style of football and in every transfer window Pulis has signed footballers who don't fit our style - by and large! Had he stuck to his principles and signed the players that fit his system none of us would be having this discussion! Your second paragraph is a contradiction to your argument. I would say that Pulis continuing to pursue a style of football that has been "slated by the press" for the last 5 years is ignoring the outside world and is evidence of sticking to his strategy. People seem to forget where Richard Cresswell played for the majority of his time at Stoke, on the wing. He has played people out of position long before our Premier League days. Surely the argument is fans are tired of watching his tried and tested style of play? My answer to that is to not be swayed by short term performance. Everyone who has said "yes" to the OP's question should try this: cast your mind back to Boxing Day, the feeling you had walking away from the ground after the win over Liverpool. You log on to the computer and your presented with the same question. What would your answer be?
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Post by MrMagic on Jan 20, 2013 18:57:00 GMT
Pulis success as a manager has been getting more out of a team of players than the sum of their individual parts. His concentration on shape and organisation in training has seen him getting teams results that on paper you wouldn't expect.
Unfortunately with the quality of players we now have, the same approach is resulting in him getting less out of the team than the sum of their individual parts.
Turning up to matches hoping to still be in the game after 60 minutes (his words not mine), just isn't acceptable any more. Neither is a target of 40 points.
Like many posters have said, all of the issues that we have at the moment, and that we've been suffering from for at least 18 months are of the managers own making. Do people really think he is going to change? Do people really think he is going to get rid of the inept Kemp and bring in someone who might challenge his thinking and improve him? It just doesn't seem likely to me at all.
The reaction on here isn't a knee-jerk response to a poor result at Swansea. It's more a case of the straw that broke the camels back. On saturday afternoon I couldn't even face listening to the match, so I went off out to get some jobs done. I bumped into 3 different people who used to go to away games religiously. Their reasons for being out and about rather that at the game were all the same, Pulis has drained every ounce of enthusiasm they had for watching stoke away. The same is true of myself. I never thought I'd see the day when I was in a supermarket on a Saturday at 3pm rather than supporting stoke. In the past I've moved heaven and earth to attend matches. During two bouts of lymphoma I even arranged my treatment so that I wouldn't miss a game. Now I don't even have the enthusiasm to turn on the radio when we are playing away. Sorry if that sounds self indulgent, but to me its gutting that its come to this.
For all of the above, it's my strong opinion that Mr Pulis has to go.
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Post by hchpotter on Jan 20, 2013 18:58:11 GMT
Given that 82 of the 92 league clubs would love to be where we are why would e sack the manager?
So many on here have said that Southampton are ridiculous to sack Adkins and the whole football would think the same if we sacked the manager who has lead us to our highest position in a generation.
Of the 9 clubs above us did any of us realistically expect us to be above Man City, Man United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool, or Everton at this stage of the season?
I think we are 2 places away from our highest realistic position. We are above Newcastle, Sunderland and Villa, all of whom are bigger clubs than Stoke. Pulis was unfairly derided for not completing the Ba transfer. Newcastle took the gamble and where are they in the league? Sunderland sent a fair few bob on Johnson and Fletcher. Villa spent on Bent. QPR can pay Remy £80'000 a week.
And still we're above them. Excellent job Tone keep it going!
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Post by armitagestokie on Jan 20, 2013 19:04:59 GMT
One of the decisions a referee must make during a pitch inspection is will the quality of the match as a spectacle be affected?
Spurs vs Man U is on but all matches featuring Stoke City have been postponed.
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