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Post by skeelsy on Jan 11, 2013 14:15:24 GMT
In the 5 months since Michael Laudrup was appointed manager Swansea have won at Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea scoring 7 times and conceding once. By way of comparison we have played 16 matches at Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea in league and cup since we were promoted and managed 3 draws (all 0-0) and 13 defeats, scoring a magnificent 4 goals and conceding 33. But wait, this is not a fair comparison: as TP will quickly remind us we are only a small club on a small budget whereas Swansea .....
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jan 11, 2013 14:17:46 GMT
Interesting point. In Head to Head I think Pulis has a 100% record against Laudrup as managers - Really is fascinating stuff.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 11, 2013 14:17:59 GMT
And?
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 11, 2013 14:22:38 GMT
Laudrup is a good football coach and trusts his players. Pulis is a good organiser who does not.
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Post by SidibeGod on Jan 11, 2013 14:24:25 GMT
Lost 2-0 to us at the Brit, are on the same points and have only bettered our goal difference by 4 even with that wonderfluke signing Michu |
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Post by stokeramblers on Jan 11, 2013 14:26:50 GMT
Three cheers for Michael Laudrup! Hip hip... Hip Hip.....
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 11, 2013 14:34:39 GMT
Stats ridiculous.
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Post by Gods on Jan 11, 2013 14:43:47 GMT
In the 5 months since Michael Laudrup was appointed manager Swansea have won at Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea scoring 7 times and conceding once. By way of comparison we have played 16 matches at Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea in league and cup since we were promoted and managed 3 draws (all 0-0) and 13 defeats, scoring a magnificent 4 goals and conceding 33. But wait, this is not a fair comparison: as TP will quickly remind us we are only a small club on a small budget whereas Swansea ..... I think the point you make that we have been dismal at Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea across the last 5 seasons is a good one. Thwarted as we were by our singular lack of ambition. As for Swansea winning at these 3 venues, well I saw highlights of all 3 of these games and they used up enough luck for about 5 seasons in doing so. |
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Post by scfc75 on Jan 11, 2013 14:46:26 GMT
They also lost at Villa, got thumped at home to Everton and could only manage a goalless draw at home to Liverpool. We drew with Villa and Everton and beat Liverpool.
Laudrup is shit, Pulis is king.
Stats eh?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2013 14:57:26 GMT
I would swap managers with Swansea right now if it were possible.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 11, 2013 15:09:44 GMT
They also lost at Villa, got thumped at home to Everton and could only manage a goalless draw at home to Liverpool. We drew with Villa and Everton and beat Liverpool. Laudrup is shit, Pulis is king. Stats eh? Add in the fact that we cruised past them when we played them at home and they were arguably the worst side to visit the Brit this season and Laudrup begins to look less of a tactical genius. After all, surely a manager with his technical know how, excellent man management skills and all round good eggness should be able to outwit Tone the tactical dinosaur shouldn't he? |
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Post by jbstokie on Jan 11, 2013 15:18:47 GMT
Whereas Swansea have the exact same amount of points as us.
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Post by onionman on Jan 11, 2013 15:20:35 GMT
In the 44th minute of their last league game, Swansea conceded a goal to Villa. Andreas Weimann of all people.
In the 67th minutes of their second to last league game, Stoke scored. Matt Upson.
The stats show Pulis is streets ahead of Laudrup.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 11, 2013 15:29:41 GMT
Skeelsy, thanksfor reminding us all that there are stupid ways to use statisics as well as sensible ways to use them. ;D
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Post by santy on Jan 11, 2013 15:38:23 GMT
How I wish we had Swansea's home record...
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Post by drfootball on Jan 11, 2013 16:18:17 GMT
They say there are lies,damn lies and statistics. To compare the 2 mangers and conclude than 1 is superior to the other like this is infantile  |
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Jan 11, 2013 16:30:02 GMT
I would swap managers with Swansea right now if it were possible. Can we throw Skeelsy in as a makeweight? |
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Post by fortressbritannia on Jan 11, 2013 16:34:51 GMT
They also lost at Villa, got thumped at home to Everton and could only manage a goalless draw at home to Liverpool. We drew with Villa and Everton and beat Liverpool. Laudrup is shit, Pulis is king. Stats eh? Add in the fact that we cruised past them when we played them at home and they were arguably the worst side to visit the Brit this season and Laudrup begins to look less of a tactical genius. After all, surely a manager with his technical know how, excellent man management skills and all round good eggness should be able to outwit Tone the tactical dinosaur shouldn't he? Agreed each time Swansea have come to the brit, TP has had their card mark. Having said that I think you can only compare 2 managers with their records against one another, its hard in this case as TP has only faced Laurdrup the once. |
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Post by billybigballs on Jan 11, 2013 16:53:08 GMT
I've seen some stats which say Laudrup was a better player than Pulis
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Post by scfc75 on Jan 11, 2013 17:02:28 GMT
They say there are lies,damn lies and statistics. To compare the 2 mangers and conclude than 1 is superior to the other like this is infantile Especially when you only choose 3 positive results for Swansea as the comparison...! |
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Post by liathroid on Jan 11, 2013 17:04:45 GMT
I've seen some stats which say Laudrup was a better player than Pulis TP headbutts better |
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Post by Alvechurch Assassin on Jan 11, 2013 17:42:36 GMT
What's everyone's problem? This is just another great opportunity to go on about what a shithouse Tone is against the top clubs (away)!!
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Post by thehoof on Jan 11, 2013 18:03:43 GMT
Tony does not think that it would be right and proper for us to beat the "big" clubs.
West Ham, QPR and Swansea have all beaten Chelsea in the past 5 weeks - we are at least on a par with these clubs, and should go all out to stuff this lot tomorrow. You all know that TP will not allow that to happen, and will tell us that we can't compete, and look at how much they have spent etc.etc.
Anyone can lose a game, but it takes ambition against the better clubs, to win. Come on Tone, go for it.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jan 11, 2013 18:06:54 GMT
Moan, moan fuckin moan.  |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 11, 2013 18:10:26 GMT
Watching Swansea last season, I found rather boring. Pass back, pass sideways, pass back etc etc
This season, they still pass but are more direct and with purpose. I think he has evolved them
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 11, 2013 18:11:45 GMT
Watching Swansea last season, I found rather boring. Pass back, pass sideways, pass back etc etc This season, they still pass but are more direct and with purpose. I think he has evolved them Totally agree. I really like Ki and De Guzman in the middle for them too. They both bring a lot more to the table than Allen and unlike Allen I think both of them would work in the middle for a Pulis side. |
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Post by passtheoatcakes on Jan 11, 2013 18:24:39 GMT
I would swap managers with Swansea right now if it were possible. You are mad, I mean, really, really, REALLY barking mad!  Noddy Land awaits you; Big Ears wants to give you a big rumpty pumpty man hug ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 11, 2013 18:28:31 GMT
I would swap managers with Swansea right now if it were possible. You are mad, I mean, really, really, REALLY barking mad! Noddy Land awaits you; Big Ears wants to give you a big rumpty pumpty man hug ;D ;D ;D Your post infers that Laudrup is not a good manager which would point to you wishing to join in with the big rumpty pumpty man hug you just dreamed up in your head  |
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 11, 2013 18:33:31 GMT
Tony does not think that it would be right and proper for us to beat the "big" clubs. West Ham, QPR and Swansea have all beaten Chelsea in the past 5 weeks - we are at least on a par with these clubs, and should go all out to stuff this lot tomorrow. You all know that TP will not allow that to happen, and will tell us that we can't compete, and look at how much they have spent etc.etc. Anyone can lose a game, but it takes ambition against the better clubs, to win. Come on Tone, go for it. What, you mean beat big clubs like Arse, Spuds and L'pool? Yeah, we never do that do we? |
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Post by passtheoatcakes on Jan 11, 2013 18:37:35 GMT
You are mad, I mean, really, really, REALLY barking mad! Noddy Land awaits you; Big Ears wants to give you a big rumpty pumpty man hug ;D ;D ;D Your post infers that Laudrup is not a good manager which would point to you wishing to join in with the big rumpty pumpty man hug you just dreamed up in your head Yes.....good point.....think we could all do with a few rumpty pumpty man hugs now the snow is coming Sure Laudrup knows what he is doing, but wouldn't swap him for TP.....stats or no stats! |
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