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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 23, 2012 23:37:07 GMT
Usually I resent players retiring from internationals but this is just a relief! I dislike him less now
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Post by ned on Sept 23, 2012 23:57:38 GMT
So that's 4 pages of comments. Can we sum up?
OK I'll start. He's certainly a twat I don't want to know.
Footballing wise he was good many years ago. Probably not the best biscuit he thought he was. Too much emphasis on the injured wing: oh look at me I'm hurt in the cause by that brute over there.
He's a twat I don't want to know.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 23, 2012 23:57:48 GMT
Much as I'm glad he's retired, the reasoning he gives is disgusting. To suggest he's an innocent man unfairly being persecuted is disingenuous in the extreme when he knows he no longer has the luxury of a legal loophole to avoid being banged to rights by the blatant evidence of his racist behaviour which the entire world has seen. It's nothing more than a desperate attempt to quit on his own terms, instead of having his career ending in disgrace, dressing himself up as a victim instead of the vile man he really is. Absolutely, the guy is just a disgrace. No class whatsoever. At least I can start watching England games again.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Sept 24, 2012 0:09:53 GMT
Hopefully with this hideous cunt retiring it might hopefully be the beginning of the end of Ordinary Woy's boys.
For too long we've had to endure the same old shite every international game, we're so stuck in this old fashioned way of playing football it's laughable, we've got some promising young players, Ryan, Adam Johnson, Daniel Sturridge, Raheem Sterling to name a few but they're constantly over-looked for sickly nice Ordinary Milner and Ordinary Henderson.
Looking at the pace and creativity other nations have compared to ours is frightening, now Woy will be forced to look at younger players now his golden boys are starting to call time on their international careers, however I don't think Hodgson is the man to help coach these younger players, the whole coaching ethos in this country needs a massive shake up, our lads just aren't as technically gifted as our other European counterparts as they're coached to be 'aaaaard workers and not game changers.
Just to add, I certainly won't miss you Terry you absolute thundercunt. Get addicted to your dad's smack so we can laugh at your miserable decline in the papers every week you low-life worthless scumbag.
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Post by ned on Sept 24, 2012 0:37:30 GMT
Dontcha just love it? The arrogance of the bone headed bleeder.
"I'm retired". You shouldn't have been picked for many seasons.
Banksie, leaving an England training session, chucked his kit into his car and said "Cheerio, Alf, see you again".
"Will you", replied Alf Ramsey.
Very different people. Very different times.
Like many I'll remember, for what it's worth, Banksie and Alf Ramsey with more than great fondness. How could you not? Terry? No Ta.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 24, 2012 0:42:18 GMT
Best England centre half since Tony Adams. Best English centre half in the league by a distance. An already weak England team just got weaker. A potentially devestating blow to our world cup qualification campaign, and people are happy about it. Because "he's a knob" Some great performances for England from him that i'm thankful for. In a generation of bottlers he was one of the few who you could count on. Spot on.
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 24, 2012 0:44:08 GMT
Only good thing about Terry's England career is that I won 50 quid on him being 1st goalscorer when we played the USA in a 2008 friendly.
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Post by HappyClapper on Sept 24, 2012 7:14:08 GMT
I cheered when I heard terry had retired. We don't need cunts like him in our national team. Just need to get cashley to pack in now.
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Post by greyman on Sept 24, 2012 7:36:10 GMT
The difference with Cole is that he is still one of our best performers however much of a prick he is. Unlike Terry he also limits his prickishness to things that don't hurt the team. We've seen Terry get sent off unnecessarily in a Champions League semi-final, have the England captaincy removed twice, have his own teammates refuse to talk to him and publicly undermine the manager at the 2010 World Cup. A grade A prick both on and off the pitch, and a once good but now fading player.
The one thing that all of the many incidents involving him have is that he has to paint himself as the victim. This is just the latest example. He knows he's bang to rights, was only cleared in court because they couldn't for 100 per cent prove the context in which he called Ferdinand what he did. That is not something the FA have to prove to the same degree and he knows the game is up.
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Post by greyman on Sept 24, 2012 8:43:03 GMT
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Post by OldStokie on Sept 24, 2012 8:47:33 GMT
It's threads like this that make me realise how old I'm getting. I just can't get worked up by someone so insignificant. In the greater scheme of things, he's an infinitesimally small speck of dirty dust.
I agree with Mark. Unlike a Court of Law where the onus is on convincing proof, the FA investigation will be like a civil law-suit where a degree of common sense and reasonable assumption will be the benchmark. Not that I trust the FA to do even that.
OS.
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Post by OldStokie on Sept 24, 2012 8:49:59 GMT
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Sept 24, 2012 8:52:11 GMT
Anyone think our abuse of him on Saturday made him realise just what the rest of the country, outside the Stamford Bridge bubble, think of him.
'Position untenable as everyone knows I'm racist scum now, the Stoke fans told me so'
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Post by ColonelMustard on Sept 24, 2012 9:31:20 GMT
makes watching England a little easier - I'd still expect him to turn up in full kit to collect a medal should England ever actually win everything
edit - meant to say anything rather than everything - but no chance anyway as buxton points out
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Sept 24, 2012 9:48:56 GMT
makes watching England a little easier - I'd still expect him to turn up in full kit to collect a medal should England ever actually win everything Don't suppose we'll ever get to see whether he would or not though
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Post by shiftyfifty on Sept 24, 2012 10:17:20 GMT
I don't like the bloke, but I really do sympathise with him on this one. He's been cleared in a court of law.
Seems like double jeopardy to me.
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Post by stockportstokie on Sept 24, 2012 10:21:01 GMT
Terry wouldn't be able to hack it in Spain, Italy Brazil etc. Prime Rio would piss Spain, Italy, Brazil etc
Rio > Terry. Shawcross > Terry
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Post by greyman on Sept 24, 2012 10:47:51 GMT
I don't like the bloke, but I really do sympathise with him on this one. He's been cleared in a court of law. Seems like double jeopardy to me. The verdict in court was that he'd used the words 'fucking black cunt' to Anton Ferdinand but the prosecution couldn't prove beyond all reasonable doubt the context. Terry's defence was that he'd used it witha question mark on the end. In fact the conclusion of the judge was that this explanation was 'unlikely'. You can see it here www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/r-v-john-terry.pdfNow he's facing an FA charge that is not about whether he has broken the law or not but whether he has breached their regulations. Not only that they only have to prove 'on the balance of probability' that he racially abused Ferdinand. On that level of proof he would probably have been found guilty in court.
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Post by superjonnywalters on Sept 24, 2012 11:04:25 GMT
His "defence" is a shambles.
"I did say it, but I was repeating what Anton said to me."
Ok John, you racist fucknugget. Utter arse gravy of the highest order.
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Post by greyman on Sept 24, 2012 11:26:40 GMT
I don't think he is a racist really. I think he's thick and unpleasant which is why he called Ferdinand something racist and why he's timed his retirement to coincide with the hearing. He's telling the FA he is above their regulations so I hope they slap him with a long ban to prove different.
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Post by rlcstokie on Sept 24, 2012 12:11:11 GMT
He left of his own accord, looks like a big FO to the FA from Terry to me
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Sept 25, 2012 11:59:20 GMT
If he is found guilty what will his punishment be? Will he get the Suarez punishment = lenghty ban or will he get the rio Ferdinand punishment = £45k fine. Both made comments considered by the FA to be racist but very different punishment. Strange eh?
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Post by pickins on Sept 25, 2012 23:02:59 GMT
. . . wasn't he collared for selling private tours around Stamford Bridge not so long ago?
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Post by salopstick on Sept 25, 2012 23:05:00 GMT
If he is found guilty what will his punishment be? Will he get the Suarez punishment = lenghty ban or will he get the rio Ferdinand punishment = £45k fine. Both made comments considered by the FA to be racist but very different punishment. Strange eh? if found guilty the damage to his reputation including sponsorships will be massive
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Sept 26, 2012 6:39:47 GMT
If he is found guilty what will his punishment be? Will he get the Suarez punishment = lenghty ban or will he get the rio Ferdinand punishment = £45k fine. Both made comments considered by the FA to be racist but very different punishment. Strange eh? if found guilty the damage to his reputation including sponsorships will be massive Without doubt. I am just wondering how the FA can give such different punishments when the charge against has the same foundations. It was the FA themselves that said Ferdinand's twitter comment was deemed as racist so why the lenient punishment?
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Post by greyman on Sept 26, 2012 6:55:59 GMT
Is it because you think The Darkies are treated differently SS? Not that he was charged with a different offence?
Why not just say what's on your mind?
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Post by Zero on Sept 26, 2012 7:04:55 GMT
This retirement will probably benefit Chelsea somewhat. Probably won't be particularly useful for the English team, the FA, etc., but don't really care about them that much either.
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Post by salopstick on Sept 26, 2012 7:21:33 GMT
If he is found guilty what will his punishment be? Will he get the Suarez punishment = lenghty ban or will he get the rio Ferdinand punishment = £45k fine. Both made comments considered by the FA to be racist but very different punishment. Strange eh? surez got a bigger punishment because: 1 the context 2 the amount of times he kept using it John terry has admitted using the language so has broken the rules he will get half the punishment of Suarez but can forever be correctly labelled as racist
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Post by salopstick on Sept 26, 2012 7:22:39 GMT
Is it because you think The Darkies are treated differently SS? Not that he was charged with a different offence? Why not just say what's on your mind? john Terry's defence is that he was just repeating anton ferdinands words. What's yours?
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Sept 26, 2012 7:33:42 GMT
Is it because you think The Darkies are treated differently SS? Not that he was charged with a different offence? Why not just say what's on your mind? I will not be debating anything with you from this point on because you obviously have friends in high places. After all you can openly call someone a cunt and nothing is said but as soon as I said something against you (not as aggressive as cunt) I got a 3 day ban. Go figure??
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