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Post by jbdotco on Aug 14, 2012 20:47:49 GMT
Thick as fuck you lot. At least with the 90m we've spent we've got a squad that's sorted for years to come, oh shit. Fortunately we're a well run club and by the time that rolls around we'll be self sufficient and be able to buy an adequate replacement when our current wingers tire. Oh, and £90m? Behave ;D
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Post by stockportstokie on Aug 14, 2012 20:48:16 GMT
£90m is a conservative estimate, sign on fees/agent fees/contracts etc it'll be closer to £100m all in.
Well run club don't make me laugh, we're subsidised by thankfully a rich as fuck chairman/company.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 20:49:33 GMT
I've not seen enough of Marshall to judge him, but the thing what pissed me off was we let him leave when we had no Wong cover whatsoever! We made do with shotton, or bloody Walters! At least keeping Marshall we would have had a actual winger! Someone to go at defenders and who could cross a ball instead of lassie and the other wankstain
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Post by alster on Aug 14, 2012 20:49:41 GMT
Take a hint, he wasn't the finished article, but he obviously has talent and that big word potential. Do you think Pennant/Ethers/Kightly were the finished article at Marshalls age? He'll develop into a decent prem winger within 3 years, I'm willing to wage £100 on that. Which was why he was offered a bleedin decent new contract ;D Might have offered the contract but did the manager show any intentions of itegrating him into the matchday squad and actually giving him an opportunity to prove himself.
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Post by ichabodcheesecake on Aug 14, 2012 20:50:08 GMT
He was that hot property Leicester fought off all the Prem clubs :-)
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 14, 2012 20:50:37 GMT
Which was why he was offered a bleedin decent new contract ;D Might have offered the contract but did the manager show any intentions of itegrating him into the matchday squad and actually giving him an opportunity to prove himself. No he wanted to send him on loan to someone like Leicester
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Post by march4 on Aug 14, 2012 20:50:55 GMT
£90m is a conservative estimate, sign on fees/agent fees/contracts etc it'll be closer to £100m all in. If you are going to include wages, then £100M would make us the stingiest club in the Prem. TP must be an absolute genius to have kept us in the Prem on an outlay of only £100M.
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Post by jbdotco on Aug 14, 2012 21:01:24 GMT
£90m is a conservative estimate, sign on fees/agent fees/contracts etc it'll be closer to £100m all in. Well run club don't make me laugh, we're subsidised by thankfully a rich as fuck chairman/company. Who's primary concerns are to make us a self-sufficient club? Who would you consider a well run club if not us? That's like saying a successful business venture is badly run because it's had a hefty investment.
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Post by swampySCFC on Aug 14, 2012 21:04:07 GMT
Crikey some people. talk about knee jerk? Great way to start a season by calling our wingers shit
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 14, 2012 21:05:28 GMT
Lets not forget that Tony Pulis did actually rate Ben Marshall and he did want him to stay. TP is not responsible for contractual issues, and as such should not be blamed for Marshall leaving the club.
He was the first person to visit him in hospital when he got a bad injury playing for Carlisle in the JP trophy final, and I for one believe that the boy may well have had a chance at Stoke if that injury hadn`t slowed down his progress.
Pulis has a clear progression plan in place for young players and its pretty obvious to anyone what it is. Pitch them in at the highest level he can on loan at 18-19 and look to loan out to clubs progressively until they reach a stage when they look good at Championship level. Once that happens, one can reasonably assume that they are capable of "making it" into a Premier league squad.
Personally, I`ve watched Marshall a few times and although he has undoubted talent, I don`t think he has the pace to make it as a top player, hence my earlier comparison with Kris Commons.
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Post by alster on Aug 14, 2012 21:08:13 GMT
Might have offered the contract but did the manager show any intentions of itegrating him into the matchday squad and actually giving him an opportunity to prove himself. No he wanted to send him on loan to someone like Leicester Exactly he wanted somebody else to develop and blood the player for him. Just about sums him up only interested in the finished article not interested in development at all. Ought to grow a pair and spell that out to his gaffa, similar to his football ought to grow a pair and go after teams instead of wanting to be the underdog, the giant killer everyweekend.
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Post by tazi on Aug 14, 2012 21:08:15 GMT
Marshall will never make a premier league winger in a million years let alone three because one thing and the most important thing is that he doesn't posess pace and pace is the all important factor if you're going to make it in any league let alone the best league in the world.
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Post by knype on Aug 14, 2012 21:09:15 GMT
Tazi, neither will Shotton,Rory or Walters....
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Post by stockportstokie on Aug 14, 2012 21:09:41 GMT
I'd say since they got relegated Newcastle have been pretty much run perfectly is a business sense.
Define self sufficient, it's obvious we aren't capable of maintaining past transfer policy without Coates' investment. Selling Marshall for peanuts isn't particularly self sufficient, especially when players like Allen/Henderson play one decent season and go for 15/16m. I also doubt Pulis would have played either of those two over seasoned pro's, hence they'd would'a been flogged for a couple of mill at most.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 14, 2012 21:12:55 GMT
It was a joke Swampy!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 14, 2012 21:15:51 GMT
No he wanted to send him on loan to someone like Leicester Exactly he wanted somebody else to develop and blood the player for him. Just about sums him up only interested in the finished article not interested in development at all. . Seemingly in line with every other Premier League manager around when it comes to this player, although you clearly know best! Now what happened to world beater Adam Vaas
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Post by sufolkstokie on Aug 14, 2012 21:17:22 GMT
Good player and potentially a Prem player to come - no idea about the ins and outs, but not even putting him on the bench v Derby in the cup was probably the final nail for all concerned.
Anyone who thinks he is worse than Shotton who plays in our first team, then well.....
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 14, 2012 21:19:03 GMT
Exactly he wanted somebody else to develop and blood the player for him. Just about sums him up only interested in the finished article not interested in development at all. . Seemingly in line with every other Premier League manager around when it comes to this player, although you clearly know best! Now what happened to world beater Adam Vaas Champions League football this season Sheikhy! With FC Cluj of Romania.
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Post by stockportstokie on Aug 14, 2012 21:19:06 GMT
Adam Vass has actually gone on to do very well for himself. Got himself a huge contract and will be playing in the champions league next season, but I guess that doesn't count for anything eh
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 21:19:16 GMT
Very good free kick just seen it on SSN
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 14, 2012 21:22:14 GMT
He's a twat for allowing Marshall to leave, he'll rip up the champ this season. Champ is certainly the word, never has been to this point a Premier League side with the slightest interest in him. Why? Neither has Joe Allen but one season in the PL sees him transferred to L'Pool for £15million. Even the most myopic Pulis rimmers can't fathom why the bloke was allowed to leave without trying him out, they just can't bring themselves to admit it.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 14, 2012 21:22:55 GMT
So you mean failed in Italy and now playing in the finest arenas that Romania has offer. Pisser
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Post by stockportstokie on Aug 14, 2012 21:27:42 GMT
So you mean failed in Italy and now playing in the finest arenas that Romania has offer. Pisser He's earning more wedge than Shotton/Patto/Rooney. He also turned down moves to clubs in Serie A & France, that doesn't suit the agenda though
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 14, 2012 21:28:19 GMT
So you mean failed in Italy and now playing in the finest arenas that Romania has offer. Pisser He didn't fail though did he? And he's playing in the Champions League, so it conner be bad.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 14, 2012 21:30:00 GMT
So you mean failed in Italy and now playing in the finest arenas that Romania has offer. Pisser He also turned down moves to clubs in Serie A & France, that doesn't suit the agenda though. You know a lot about the high felutin Romanian football scene for a lad from Swansea
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Post by stockportstokie on Aug 14, 2012 21:33:05 GMT
He also turned down moves to clubs in Serie A & France, that doesn't suit the agenda though. You know a lot about the high felutin Romanian football scene for a lad from Swansea I just know Vass He's not fussed on Pulis either.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 14, 2012 21:35:28 GMT
So you mean failed in Italy and now playing in the finest arenas that Romania has offer. Pisser He didn't fail though did he? And he's playing in the Champions League, so it conner be bad. Yes fail was harsh. Dossing about in the Italian Second Division in front of 3000 folk since he left us and now in the Romanian Primera
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 14, 2012 21:38:28 GMT
Marshall will never make a premier league winger in a million years let alone three because one thing and the most important thing is that he doesn't posess pace and pace is the all important factor if you're going to make it in any league let alone the best league in the world. Did Beckham have pace? Does Pennant or Ethers? What about Shotton or Delap, both played wide right by the capped wonder?
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Post by lagwafis on Aug 14, 2012 21:41:09 GMT
Vass has had a mixed time to be fair, four out of his five seasons have been in Serie B playing for Brescia and they weren't too impressive in their Serie A relegation season either. I don't follow Hungary closely but apparently only 11 caps since 2006 too. He's still 23 though so good luck to him in Transylvania!
Back to Marshall, we used to get threads like this all the time when Martin Paterson scored for Scunthorpe and Burnley. Marshall might make it at the top level or he might not, in many ways he reminds me of Lawrence. Either way I'd have rather given him a go in the squad than trying Shotton, Delap, Whitehead out wide, especially in the FA Cup games. Thankfully we now seem to be investing in cover for the wing positions
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 14, 2012 21:42:51 GMT
He didn't fail though did he? And he's playing in the Champions League, so it conner be bad. Yes fail was harsh. Dossing about in the Italian Second Division in front of 3000 folk since he left us and now in the Romanian Primera He played in Serie A too. And it's more like 8,500. Get it right man. Apparently Vass' main problem in Italy was that he was somewhat of a whistle blower on match fixing allegedly. They didn't like him.
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