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Post by dutchstokie on Jun 19, 2012 23:03:44 GMT
tonight.
Put himslef on the line and really put a shift in.
Thoughts??
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Post by jakewhu on Jun 19, 2012 23:06:39 GMT
Good player, but pretty one dimensional. Always puts in a shift. Fairly good at playing passes sideways and backwards, but that's about it. Doesn't offer too much going forward. Can get forward more in the prem, but gets found out at international level.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jun 19, 2012 23:08:50 GMT
As above, ALWAYS puts it all in and has some admirable qualities. Tending to get done for pace just lately though and consequently gives away fouls with most of his tackles. Really like the bloke but he'll be found-out against the best IMO.
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Post by bogshed on Jun 19, 2012 23:14:42 GMT
Lion hearted player.
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Post by ichabodcheesecake on Jun 19, 2012 23:18:34 GMT
Good player, but pretty one dimensional. Always puts in a shift. Fairly good at playing passes sideways and backwards, but that's about it. Doesn't offer too much going forward. Can get forward more in the prem, but gets found out at international level. Pretty much agree with all of that. A few times he won the ball well but just played aimless passes forward when a simple ball was on. Put himself on the line a few times though.
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 19, 2012 23:20:55 GMT
Cannot see how he's going to play a fourth full game on Sunday, he's starting to look knackered to me. But we have pretty much no other option...
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Post by kerouac on Jun 20, 2012 6:11:40 GMT
The Whitehead of England,works haaaard but offers nothing.his ilk are the reason England or Stoke will never progress the similarities between us and England were very clear last night but is it the players or the manager?
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Post by 99problems on Jun 20, 2012 6:12:32 GMT
It would seem that the ukrain coach simply told his kick the ball as hard as they could into Scott parkers face... I'm surprised he didn't go off with concussion
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Post by kerouac on Jun 20, 2012 6:24:08 GMT
I think he practices his special " blocks" in training,I think as I type a training aid is being developed in the shape of an army of advancing robots who he has to stop but then he has to fall in his arse and crawl along as if trying to fellate the last one standing.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Jun 20, 2012 7:24:54 GMT
Agreed.
Pulis would of been drooling out of the mouth watching Parker last night.
Parker didnt half catch one in the face yet got straight up and carried on, if that was someone like Ribery we would of had to have waited for 10 minutes whilst he rolled about on the floor.
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Post by RINGO STARR on Jun 20, 2012 7:25:58 GMT
Parker has been very good in each of the three games so far this tournament. Long may it continue.
He plays with a passion and pride that has been lacking in this England team over the last decade. He compliments Steve Gerrard very well and the pairing seems to be working tom the managers plan.
I anticipate a very frustrating and scrappy game on Sunday against Italy, with the game decided on penalties...AGAIN!!!
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Post by frasier99 on Jun 20, 2012 7:52:17 GMT
Parker and Lescott did well
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on Jun 20, 2012 7:54:43 GMT
Thought Parker had a fairly non descript first half really
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Post by jpm64 on Jun 20, 2012 8:02:18 GMT
Well I know it's a game game of opinions but Parker Impressive ? Do me a favour, I thought he was very poor !! Perhaps I missed something but exacltly what do you think he contributed ?
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Post by superjonnywalters on Jun 20, 2012 8:06:11 GMT
Terry and Lescott were immense at the back. For as much of a cunt that Terry is, he is one hell of a defender. I never understand the criticism of him, as a player.
Parker and Gerrard have nailed down the centre midfield places.
Our weakness is the right hand side. Johnson and Milner are garbage. Richards and Theo would be infinitely better.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jun 20, 2012 8:12:53 GMT
Parker has been doing all the chasing and tackling which has freed Gerrard up to be more expressive on the ball, so the combination is working well. Clearly Parker has been told to keep it simple and lay it off, but when he wants to he does have a decent pass and shot on him. To compare him to Whitehead is just plain ludicrous.
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Post by superjonnywalters on Jun 20, 2012 8:14:48 GMT
Lampard getting injured has done us a massive favour.
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Post by stokiedj on Jun 20, 2012 8:16:42 GMT
And bra strap barry.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jun 20, 2012 9:47:15 GMT
The problem is WD, Richards hasn't been chosen and wasn't even in the back-ups!!!!. Johnson is an accident (and goal) waiting to happen. Milner is pedestrian too whilst Parker has many admirable qualities but after this tournament I'd look elsewhere. However, other than the odious Wilshere, who else has the quality to play in England's midfield? On the other hand, I predict a long England career for Oxlade-Chamberlain.
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Post by tazi on Jun 20, 2012 10:25:47 GMT
Thought he was pretty shite at tracking back....
Slower than an oil tanker.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2012 10:53:15 GMT
The problem is WD, Richards hasn't been chosen and wasn't even in the back-ups!!!!. Johnson is an accident (and goal) waiting to happen. Milner is pedestrian too whilst Parker has many admirable qualities but after this tournament I'd look elsewhere. However, other than the odious Wilshere, who else has the quality to play in England's midfield? On the other hand, I predict a long England career for Oxlade-Chamberlain. to be fair to Milner, he isn't really there to fly down the wing going past players etc. in this England set up, he's mainly there to help cover Glenn Johnson's arse, otherwise Walcott would be starting ahead of him. same as some people slating Parker for not getting forward enough, it's fairly obvious he's been told to be THE defensive midfielder breaking up play etc. we are far more rigid a set up than we have been for years and how these players play for their domestic sides you can pretty much forget about in Hodgsons style.they have specific jobs to do and have done them quite well to be fair.i do completely agree with you however over our lack of options in general for centre midfield at the moment but as it is Gerrard and Parker have been given very set jobs to do and are sticking to their tasks well.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jun 20, 2012 11:10:13 GMT
His passing consists of.sideways sideways,back,sideways sideways, back,sideways,back ,back, sideways.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2012 11:58:55 GMT
His passing consists of.sideways sideways,back,sideways sideways, back,sideways,back ,back, sideways. and when you consider because both him and Gerrard are SOOOOO far back from the front two he should do what exactly? ping a 35 yarder onto Wellbecks foot? Parker is doing what is asked of him by the manager, namely break up play then feed someone else (Gerrard) to create chances.don't blame the player for the manager's tactics
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Post by stokies on Jun 20, 2012 16:55:19 GMT
Never thought i'd say it, but Lescott is impressing me too.
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Post by Olgrligm on Jun 20, 2012 17:25:07 GMT
Parker has been the player of the tournament for England to date.
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Post by jarvinski on Jun 20, 2012 17:27:07 GMT
He had a nightmare like milner and rooney
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Post by Godo on Jun 21, 2012 11:34:50 GMT
Mr Reliable. Hard working and tidy in possession but sadly even teams like Portugal have 3 or 4 of similar ability and who, dare I say it, have a bit more quality/creativity in the oppositions half.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jun 21, 2012 12:00:15 GMT
I find myself looking as though I'm having a go at most of the England players on these threads and I'm really not. Terry, Lescott, Parker and Gerrard have been our 4 best players so far. They are the backbone of our team and are there to control the centre of the midfield and defence. Despite them (admittedly) being our best players so far, we have been opened up regularly by all three teams we have played and really couldn't argue too strongly if we'd lost all three. How would our opinions then stack up if they'd taken a few more of their chances and we were on our way home because that could oh so easily have been the case. None of those four players has performed BADLY and Gerrard is clearly finding it suits him playing deeper and playing long balls (something he, Lampard and Capello should have sorted between them a very long time ago). All four of them have done OK!
I suspect we will be much better placed to judge their dramatic improvement during the Italy game and any that follow. They have met ONE good side so far and were largely outplayed by them (particularly in the midfield). I will be delighted if I am proved wrong and I hope (just as much as the rest of you) that we progress but I think I'm not so much a pessimist as a realist.
I very much hope I'm wrong.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 21, 2012 12:15:10 GMT
I find myself looking as though I'm having a go at most of the England players on these threads and I'm really not. Terry, Lescott, Parker and Gerrard have been our 4 best players so far. They are the backbone of our team and are there to control the centre of the midfield and defence. Despite them (admittedly) being our best players so far, we have been opened up regularly by all three teams we have played and really couldn't argue too strongly if we'd lost all three. How would our opinions then stack up if they'd taken a few more of their chances and we were on our way home because that could oh so easily have been the case. None of those four players has performed BADLY and Gerrard is clearly finding it suits him playing deeper and playing long balls (something he, Lampard and Capello should have sorted between them a very long time ago). All four of them have done OK! I suspect we will be much better placed to judge their dramatic improvement during the Italy game and any that follow. They have met ONE good side so far and were largely outplayed by them (particularly in the midfield). I will be delighted if I am proved wrong and I hope (just as much as the rest of you) that we progress but I think I'm not so much a pessimist as a realist. I very much hope I'm wrong. I actually think Lampard not being there is as significant as Parker being there. I don't think Lampard is a bad player but shoehorning him and Gerard into the team makes England defensively fragile. Parker is a much better defensive shield and he has perfected the defensive block. In fact he has made the defensive block something of an art form. He seems to double in size when he launches himself into a block.......very impressive.
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Post by RAF on Jun 21, 2012 12:24:41 GMT
I find myself looking as though I'm having a go at most of the England players on these threads and I'm really not. Terry, Lescott, Parker and Gerrard have been our 4 best players so far. They are the backbone of our team and are there to control the centre of the midfield and defence. Despite them (admittedly) being our best players so far, we have been opened up regularly by all three teams we have played and really couldn't argue too strongly if we'd lost all three. How would our opinions then stack up if they'd taken a few more of their chances and we were on our way home because that could oh so easily have been the case. None of those four players has performed BADLY and Gerrard is clearly finding it suits him playing deeper and playing long balls (something he, Lampard and Capello should have sorted between them a very long time ago). All four of them have done OK! I suspect we will be much better placed to judge their dramatic improvement during the Italy game and any that follow. They have met ONE good side so far and were largely outplayed by them (particularly in the midfield). I will be delighted if I am proved wrong and I hope (just as much as the rest of you) that we progress but I think I'm not so much a pessimist as a realist. I very much hope I'm wrong. I actually think Lampard not being there is as significant as Parker being there. I don't think Lampard is a bad player but shoehorning him and Gerard into the team makes England defensively fragile. Parker is a much better defensive shield and he has perfected the defensive block. In fact he has made the defensive block something of an art form. He seems to double in size when he launches himself into a block.......very impressive. Indeed Foxy. He has no fear throwing himself to block shots. H
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