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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jun 19, 2012 18:45:59 GMT
If Tony was food matter, you just know he would be..... ;D
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Post by peterthornesboots on Jun 19, 2012 19:34:35 GMT
The on field success was orchestrated by Pulis Or are fans quick to forget our promotion and historic FA Cup and Europa League journeys? ??? He'd be a Mick McCarthy if he wasn't backed with millions season on season. Thats probably the worst comparison I've ever heard ... You could say the same about any manager, (Mourinho, Ferguson et al), that if they didn't have money they'd be crap
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jun 19, 2012 20:53:12 GMT
What if we are playing tippy tappy crap that some on here seem to want so desperately? I thought Sheikhs claim that he could "hear' people crossing their fingers had taken this thread to a new daft level then up pops someone who claims to dislike passing football. We all much prefer watching the opposition with the ball all match passing the arse out of us! Who wants our team indulging in that crap?
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Post by stokieoldgit on Jun 19, 2012 20:54:39 GMT
Hand grenade for the Agenda trench!!!!
We now own the ground outright and are therefore a viable club again with tangible assets. We own our own training ground for the first time in a very long time. Invested in the training ground to bring up to premier league standard. Now investing in new style premier academy, one of very few in the country. One of the few financial viable clubs in England. with new rules coming in soon.
And all this, while;-
Getting promoted to the premier league. Retaining premier league status. Quarter final of the FA cup third time in succession. 5 nil unforgeable record breaking semi final win. FA Cup Final, the first in our history. Qualification for Europa League, only the third time in our history in Europe. 9 game unbeaten run in eroupa cup. Beating such european perennials as Split, Kiev, Besictas etc. Losing to the mighty Valencia, third in Spanish League behind Barca and Real Safe again in the prem without ever looking over our shoulders. despite ridiculous europa format.
Looking forward;-
Running down the contracts of a lot of players we need to move on. Room on the wage bill for incoming quality players. A position most clubs would envy.
oh…… I nearly forgot. Goal of the season from our 10 million pound striker Peter Crouch.
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Post by Gods on Jun 19, 2012 22:48:40 GMT
Hand grenade for the Agenda trench!!!! We now own the ground outright and are therefore a viable club again with tangible assets. We own our own training ground for the first time in a very long time. Invested in the training ground to bring up to premier league standard. Now investing in new style premier academy, one of very few in the country. One of the few financial viable clubs in England. with new rules coming in soon. And all this, while;- Getting promoted to the premier league. Retaining premier league status. Quarter final of the FA cup third time in succession. 5 nil unforgeable record breaking semi final win. FA Cup Final, the first in our history. Qualification for Europa League, only the third time in our history in Europe. 9 game unbeaten run in eroupa cup. Beating such european perennials as Split, Kiev, Besictas etc. Losing to the mighty Valencia, third in Spanish League behind Barca and Real Safe again in the prem without ever looking over our shoulders. despite ridiculous europa format. Looking forward;- Running down the contracts of a lot of players we need to move on. Room on the wage bill for incoming quality players. A position most clubs would envy. oh…… I nearly forgot. Goal of the season from our 10 million pound striker Peter Crouch. Don't sully the water with a whole load of facts mate
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Post by ColonelMustard on Jun 19, 2012 23:18:34 GMT
Is this the bigger picture about the finances or the club? Or the infrastructure? Or the confidence of the owner? Or the progress? Or the stability? Or the historical achievements? Or the one about square pegs in round holes? All of the positives have been orchestrated by one man, and that man is not a Welshman so best have a go at that man for employing Pulis, simple big picture
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Post by RAF on Jun 19, 2012 23:39:03 GMT
Hand grenade for the Agenda trench!!!! We now own the ground outright and are therefore a viable club again with tangible assets. We own our own training ground for the first time in a very long time. Invested in the training ground to bring up to premier league standard. Now investing in new style premier academy, one of very few in the country. One of the few financial viable clubs in England. with new rules coming in soon. And all this, while;- Getting promoted to the premier league. Retaining premier league status. Quarter final of the FA cup third time in succession. 5 nil unforgeable record breaking semi final win. FA Cup Final, the first in our history. Qualification for Europa League, only the third time in our history in Europe. 9 game unbeaten run in eroupa cup. Beating such european perennials as Split, Kiev, Besictas etc. Losing to the mighty Valencia, third in Spanish League behind Barca and Real Safe again in the prem without ever looking over our shoulders. despite ridiculous europa format. Looking forward;- Running down the contracts of a lot of players we need to move on. Room on the wage bill for incoming quality players. A position most clubs would envy. oh…… I nearly forgot. Goal of the season from our 10 million pound striker Peter Crouch. Maybe you can explain to me what any of that has to do with anything if we find ourselves 3rd from bottom in December? I'll tell you to save you the bother. The square root of nothing. We could be bottom in April and you'd still be trawling out the 'Look where we have come from' line. Let's face it, it's not like you haven't done it before either. H
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Post by stokelad84 on Jun 19, 2012 23:44:59 GMT
Maybe you can explain to me what any of that has to do with anything if we find ourselves 3rd from bottom in December? I'll tell you to save you the bother. The square root of nothing. We could be bottom in April and you'd still be trawling out the 'Look where we have come from' line. Let's face it, it's not like you haven't done it before either. H So you're saying TP hasn't earned the right to get us out of a bad patch? (IF we were in one?) Cool.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jun 19, 2012 23:48:54 GMT
Does the season end in December now? When did they change that? If we're in the bottom three in December, I'd want a manager I though could get us above that by the middle of May. Forgive me for stating the obvious but I think we already have one. There are a whole host of clubs that could be in the bottom three in December and we are quite definitely one of them but (fortunately) there would be almost 4 months of the season left to finish well above that. Looking at our fixture list, we look much more likely to gain the bulk of our points later in the season rather than early so a lowly position might well be the case in December and I wouldn't be overly worrying about it.
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Post by stokieoldgit on Jun 20, 2012 11:37:02 GMT
Hand grenade for the Agenda trench!!!! We now own the ground outright and are therefore a viable club again with tangible assets. We own our own training ground for the first time in a very long time. Invested in the training ground to bring up to premier league standard. Now investing in new style premier academy, one of very few in the country. One of the few financial viable clubs in England. with new rules coming in soon. And all this, while;- Getting promoted to the premier league. Retaining premier league status. Quarter final of the FA cup third time in succession. 5 nil unforgeable record breaking semi final win. FA Cup Final, the first in our history. Qualification for Europa League, only the third time in our history in Europe. 9 game unbeaten run in eroupa cup. Beating such european perennials as Split, Kiev, Besictas etc. Losing to the mighty Valencia, third in Spanish League behind Barca and Real Safe again in the prem without ever looking over our shoulders. despite ridiculous europa format. Looking forward;- Running down the contracts of a lot of players we need to move on. Room on the wage bill for incoming quality players. A position most clubs would envy. oh…… I nearly forgot. Goal of the season from our 10 million pound striker Peter Crouch. Maybe you can explain to me what any of that has to do with anything if we find ourselves 3rd from bottom in December? I'll tell you to save you the bother. The square root of nothing. We could be bottom in April and you'd still be trawling out the 'Look where we have come from' line. Let's face it, it's not like you haven't done it before either. ######################## Maybe you would explane why your so sure we will be in the bottom three, because we will not be. The square root of less than nothing. I have done it befor and i will do it again because the facts should not be ignored. H
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 20, 2012 11:38:56 GMT
What if we are playing tippy tappy crap that some on here seem to want so desperately? I thought Sheikhs claim that he could "hear' people crossing their fingers had taken this thread to a new daft level Have you read some of the unfettered shit you let run riot on here lately I stand by every word of it . Some are DESPERATE for him to fail.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 20, 2012 11:40:45 GMT
I thought Sheikhs claim that he could "hear' people crossing their fingers had taken this thread to a new daft level Have you read some of the unfettered shit you let run riot on here lately I stand by every word of it . Some are DESPERATE for him to fail. Absolutely true. Blatantly obvious to anyone. I have no real problem with those who want Pulis to fail, just wish they would admit to it openly.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 20, 2012 11:45:39 GMT
Have you read some of the unfettered shit you let run riot on here lately I stand by every word of it . Some are DESPERATE for him to fail. Absolutely true. Blatantly obvious to anyone. I have no real problem with those who want Pulis to fail, just wish they would admit to it openly. Could he fail but the team succeed? Surely the ideal scenario ;D Joking aside, I don't deny there are people who want him to fail, but there are also people on here who would want to see any new manager fail just to say I told you so. For the record, I don't want to see him fail, I just want to see some football for the £84million and counting spent. If you don't believe it then tough titty.
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Post by stockportstokie on Jun 20, 2012 11:49:00 GMT
He'd be a Mick McCarthy if he wasn't backed with millions season on season. Thats probably the worst comparison I've ever heard ... You could say the same about any manager, (Mourinho, Ferguson et al), that if they didn't have money they'd be crap Erm not really. Look at what they achieved without money. Norwich & Swansea beat our debut points tally spending fuck all. Pulis isn't totally shit, but he's far from a messiah. The fact we are going to be in a relegation battle next season given what he's spent speaks for itself.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 20, 2012 11:54:01 GMT
Absolutely true. Blatantly obvious to anyone. I have no real problem with those who want Pulis to fail, just wish they would admit to it openly. Could he fail but the team succeed? Surely the ideal scenario ;D I suppose if we continue to stay up with relative ease but the crowds begin to drop off and we have wide open spaces like Bolton then that could be that scenario. Shows no real sign of happening though.
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Post by stokieoldgit on Jun 20, 2012 12:17:50 GMT
This scenario that senario, nobody knows what will happen. We dont even know what players will be taking the field in red and white stripes. To predict a relegation battle with certainty is complete nonsence. You would be better off ppredicting the end of the world.
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Post by near on Jun 20, 2012 12:28:14 GMT
Absolutely true. Blatantly obvious to anyone. I have no real problem with those who want Pulis to fail, just wish they would admit to it openly. Could he fail but the team succeed? Surely the ideal scenario ;D That was the Wolves game in a nutshell wasn't it, Woodgate off and Shotton on was a forced change? Nothing to do with the manager.. ;D
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Post by stokeramblers on Jun 20, 2012 12:31:02 GMT
Thats probably the worst comparison I've ever heard ... You could say the same about any manager, (Mourinho, Ferguson et al), that if they didn't have money they'd be crap Erm not really. Look at what they achieved without money. Norwich & Swansea beat our debut points tally spending fuck all. Pulis isn't totally shit, but he's far from a messiah. The fact we are going to be in a relegation battle next season given what he's spent speaks for itself. Do you know the Euromillions numbers? You know seeing as you're some kind of mystic meg.. We hardly been in a relegation battle since promotion.
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Post by lordb on Jun 20, 2012 12:31:27 GMT
Hand grenade for the Agenda trench!!!! We now own the ground outright and are therefore a viable club again with tangible assets. We own our own training ground for the first time in a very long time. Invested in the training ground to bring up to premier league standard. Now investing in new style premier academy, one of very few in the country. One of the few financial viable clubs in England. with new rules coming in soon. And all this, while;- Getting promoted to the premier league. Retaining premier league status. Quarter final of the FA cup third time in succession. 5 nil unforgeable record breaking semi final win. FA Cup Final, the first in our history. Qualification for Europa League, only the third time in our history in Europe. 9 game unbeaten run in eroupa cup. Beating such european perennials as Split, Kiev, Besictas etc. Losing to the mighty Valencia, third in Spanish League behind Barca and Real Safe again in the prem without ever looking over our shoulders. despite ridiculous europa format. Looking forward;- Running down the contracts of a lot of players we need to move on. Room on the wage bill for incoming quality players. A position most clubs would envy. oh…… I nearly forgot. Goal of the season from our 10 million pound striker Peter Crouch. & it was a bad season too.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2012 12:39:29 GMT
Hand grenade for the Agenda trench!!!! We now own the ground outright and are therefore a viable club again with tangible assets. We own our own training ground for the first time in a very long time. Invested in the training ground to bring up to premier league standard. Now investing in new style premier academy, one of very few in the country. One of the few financial viable clubs in England. with new rules coming in soon. And all this, while;- Getting promoted to the premier league. Retaining premier league status. Quarter final of the FA cup third time in succession. 5 nil unforgeable record breaking semi final win. FA Cup Final, the first in our history. Qualification for Europa League, only the third time in our history in Europe. 9 game unbeaten run in eroupa cup. Beating such european perennials as Split, Kiev, Besictas etc. Losing to the mighty Valencia, third in Spanish League behind Barca and Real Safe again in the prem without ever looking over our shoulders. despite ridiculous europa format. Looking forward;- Running down the contracts of a lot of players we need to move on. Room on the wage bill for incoming quality players. A position most clubs would envy. oh…… I nearly forgot. Goal of the season from our 10 million pound striker Peter Crouch. & it was a bad season too. i thinkthe point is though that what relevance does that have on our team if we are in the bottom 3 in 6 months time? will we really say "Who cares if we're relegation fodder now, look at how we did last season, that's what is really important after all"? i for one think we should keep him for the season but that's simply because if we ARE bottom 3 then who exactly could we attract to save us? none of the big guns would come so it would be too much of a gamble to just oust him halfway through. however, what happened last year shouldn't come into any decision making if we are in the mire in December; that's when you need to look at the present NOT hark back to past glories as they are completely neither here nor there. if we are bottom 3 come Christmas then that implies that regardless of what TP HAS done over the years the simple fact is that he cannot do it at the moment (if he could we wouldn't be bottom 3 after all)
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 20, 2012 12:39:34 GMT
Absolutely true. Blatantly obvious to anyone. I have no real problem with those who want Pulis to fail, just wish they would admit to it openly. Could he fail but the team succeed? Surely the ideal scenario ;D Joking aside, I don't deny there are people who want him to fail, but there are also people on here who would want to see any new manager fail just to say I told you so. For the record, I don't want to see him fail, I just want to see some football for the £84million and counting spent. If you don't believe it then tough titty. I do believe it. I used to think you were the ultimate PHW but actually you are probably not far off having the same views as me. We just express them in different ways
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Post by peterthornesboots on Jun 20, 2012 12:41:27 GMT
Thats probably the worst comparison I've ever heard ... You could say the same about any manager, (Mourinho, Ferguson et al), that if they didn't have money they'd be crap Erm not really. Look at what they achieved without money. Norwich & Swansea beat our debut points tally spending fuck all. Pulis isn't totally shit, but he's far from a messiah. The fact we are going to be in a relegation battle next season given what he's spent speaks for itself. How do you know we're going to be in a relegation battle? ???
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Post by ihaveadream on Jun 20, 2012 12:41:59 GMT
If Tony was food matter, you just know he would be..... ;D I am a marmite rimmer
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 20, 2012 12:43:20 GMT
If Tony was food matter, you just know he would be..... ;D I am a marmite rimmer I fckin hate Marmite But I luuuuurrrrrrrrrrvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeee Tone ;D ;D ;D
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Post by lordb on Jun 20, 2012 12:43:27 GMT
to seriously answer the op:
no he shouldnt go
However it's difficult to understand why relegation is being discussed (not just this thread) by so many when we have been safe as houses for all 4 seasons. Simply don't understand why people have seemingly genuine concerns that this is a liklehood.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2012 12:44:35 GMT
Erm not really. Look at what they achieved without money. Norwich & Swansea beat our debut points tally spending fuck all. Pulis isn't totally shit, but he's far from a messiah. The fact we are going to be in a relegation battle next season given what he's spent speaks for itself. How do you know we're going to be in a relegation battle? ??? we seem to have gone from a hypothetical thread to it now being taken as gospel that we WILL be in a relegation battle........it's like the New Signings thread all over again, say one thing as a possibility and 2 pages later it's nailed on that that's what will happen ???
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Post by peterthornesboots on Jun 20, 2012 12:46:47 GMT
How do you know we're going to be in a relegation battle? ??? we seem to have gone from a hypothetical thread to it now being taken as gospel that we WILL be in a relegation battle........it's like the New Signings thread all over again, say one thing as a possibility and 2 pages later it's nailed on that that's what will happen ??? I know mate, it's ridiculous
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Post by Old School Stokie on Jun 20, 2012 12:50:52 GMT
I haven't read any of the previous pages on this, but what a totally pointless post. Its like If my brother had a fanny he'd be my sister!! WTF and it gets 6 pages
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Post by stockportstokie on Jun 20, 2012 13:00:36 GMT
Given the current state of the squad, if we finish any higher than 15th I'll be astonished. I will qualify my prediction, we need substantial investment (yet again) to avoid being in a battle.
If Coates is happy to do that fair enough, I just can't see how this is a viable plan in the long term.
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Post by staffordstokie999 on Jun 20, 2012 13:16:33 GMT
to seriously answer the op: no he shouldnt go However it's difficult to understand why relegation is being discussed (not just this thread) by so many when we have been safe as houses for all 4 seasons. Simply don't understand why people have seemingly genuine concerns that this is a liklehood. exactly, not once in four seasons have we ever been in a relegation battle, which is some achievement for a club who had not been in the top division for over 20 years. Most sane people would consider that to be an achievement and give credit where its due. I don't think there is genuine concerns about relegation, its just desperation for those who want Pulis out.
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