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Post by lordeffinghamhunt on Jun 15, 2012 8:53:24 GMT
A draw is all that I can see from this game. One more nail in the coffin of our national teams hopes of staying in Euro 2012. Plus this game will be even duller than the game against France. Prediction
0-0
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Post by superjonnywalters on Jun 15, 2012 8:57:22 GMT
2-1 Carroll, G Johnson
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 15, 2012 8:57:49 GMT
1-1 We've never beaten Sweden in competition.
France game wasn't a bad game at all.
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Post by oggyoggy on Jun 15, 2012 9:08:22 GMT
Its the big one. We have to win it really. Supposedly Welbeck and Carroll starting, hopefully with walcott and young on the wings, but i suspect it will be milner with one of the them.
Carroll needs to prove his selection was justified. I am still fuming that he was picked over crouch, no plausible reason to do so other than he is younger...so no reason at all. Prove us all wrong Carroll!
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Post by lordeffinghamhunt on Jun 15, 2012 9:08:41 GMT
It's been the worst one so far. Even the French and German papers labeled England boring which they can't grumble about because they only had one shot on target. I can't see them having many attempts tonight either
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 15, 2012 9:09:17 GMT
I really can't see us winning. 1-1 is my prediction.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Jun 15, 2012 9:13:40 GMT
As soon as the draw was made, irrespective of what players were selected, I predicted 1-1.
We've never beaten Sweden in 7 previous competitive internationals with much better teams than we have now, so I can't see anything different with this current mottley crew.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 15, 2012 9:16:24 GMT
I rarely bet on correct scores but I've gone for 1-1 in this
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Post by thebet365 on Jun 15, 2012 9:20:44 GMT
It's been the worst one so far. Even the French and German papers labeled England boring which they can't grumble about because they only had one shot on target. I can't see them having many attempts tonight either It's been far from the worst, try watching games instead of reading the papers, especially French & German ones. We never beat Sweden but it's usually a decent contest, However I do think that for once because nobody expects us to win that we'll sneak a 1-0 win. |
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Post by lordeffinghamhunt on Jun 15, 2012 9:32:08 GMT
Ok you tell the ones that been as bad then? Holland v Denmarks wasn't the best game but even that was streets ahead of the dire uninspiring shit dished up by our lot. France aren't world beaters they are not in the same class as the Krouts and Spain but our lot decided to go all out defence against them. Toss tac tics, toss football, toss viewing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2012 9:32:19 GMT
It's been the worst one so far. Even the French and German papers labeled England boring which they can't grumble about because they only had one shot on target. I can't see them having many attempts tonight either It's been far from the worst, try watching games instead of reading the papers, especially French & German ones. We never beat Sweden but it's usually a decent contest, However I do think that for once because nobody expects us to win that we'll sneak a 1-0 win. spot on (in fact if he DID watch the game he'd probably have seen that BECAUSE of the way we played and snuffed out France's attacking threat that France actually looked no better than us themselves!!) 2-0 England....history (never beating them in a tournament) means the sqaure root of bugger all!! completely different personnel nowadays and stats like these (esepcially when it's only a handful of games - not as if it's based on 30 matches or anything) are just a coincedence, not anything to base future results on at all |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2012 9:35:22 GMT
Ok you tell the ones that been as bad then? Holland v Denmarks wasn't the best game but even that was streets ahead of the dire uninspiring shit dished up by our lot. France aren't world beaters they are not in the same class as the Krouts and Spain but our lot decided to go all out defence against them. Toss tac tics, toss football, toss viewing. don't watch then simples! if you exepcted an all out, attacking,fluid, Barcelona-esque game AFTER you found out Hodgson had been appointed then i seriously worry about your knowledge of the game.....anyway the kind of "Don't lose first and foremost, maybe sneak a win secondary" attitude is something i would have thought WE were all fairly used to considering we have that every week  pretty sure that Greece didn't give a shit about HOW they won it a few years back anyway did they? only on the Oatcake would you have people raising the possibility of "I don't care if we won the euros, it didn't make good viewing!" |
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Post by lordeffinghamhunt on Jun 15, 2012 9:39:29 GMT
I'm expecting a turnip on Roy's head tomorrow in the papers. Can't see anything other than a 0-0 tonight and a defeat in the final match.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Jun 15, 2012 9:42:50 GMT
It's been far from the worst, try watching games instead of reading the papers, especially French & German ones. We never beat Sweden but it's usually a decent contest, However I do think that for once because nobody expects us to win that we'll sneak a 1-0 win. spot on (in fact if he DID watch the game he'd probably have seen that BECAUSE of the way we played and snuffed out France's attacking threat that France actually looked no better than us themselves!!) 2-0 England....history (never beating them in a tournament) means the sqaure root of bugger all!! completely different personnel nowadays and stats like these (esepcially when it's only a handful of games - not as if it's based on 30 matches or anything) are just a coincedence, not anything to base future results on at all We played well in the first half but we were dominated by the French in the second period. I can't remember us having an attempt on goal during the second half! At the end of the day we were set up to not lose and it worked. However against Sweden we need to be an awful lot more more offensive and creative. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 15, 2012 9:44:22 GMT
France had all the ball 2nd half but we set up well to stifle them. That's the kind of discipline we need to instill.
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 15, 2012 9:50:39 GMT
This tournament could end up for us in a similar way to Euro 92.
Two draws and needing to beat the host nation in the last game.
hopefully a better outcome, but it's going to be a tight group.
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Post by lordeffinghamhunt on Jun 15, 2012 9:51:10 GMT
Bloody hell Tone as brainwashed you all into his negative ways! You now look at one shot on goal in a full game as great entertainment.
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Post by foster on Jun 15, 2012 9:51:24 GMT
I 'm expecting a turnip on Roy's head tomorrow in the papers. Can't see anything other than a 0-0 tonight and a defeat in the final match. ;D |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 15, 2012 9:52:09 GMT
Picture of the manager as a turnip. Intelligent insghtful journalism..  |
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Post by peterthornesboots on Jun 15, 2012 9:53:38 GMT
Picture of the manager as a turnip. Intelligent insghtful journalism.. In all fairness Joe "intelligent, insightful journalism" is something of a rarity in this country these days! |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 15, 2012 9:56:48 GMT
It is indicative of the attitude to football. There is always insightful comment but people prefer to go with daft basic crap. Is it any wonder as a football nation the toppest players struggle to adapt to change ?
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Post by stokhe on Jun 15, 2012 9:57:20 GMT
A draw is all that I can see from this game. One more nail in the coffin of our national teams hopes of staying in Euro 2012. Plus this game will be even duller than the game against France. Prediction 0-0 you must be a joy to live with ffs. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2012 9:57:47 GMT
Bloody hell Tone as brainwashed you all into his negative ways! You now look at one shot on goal in a full game as great entertainment. i've always been the same whether it's Stoke or England....football is about getting results so if we get one them i'm entertained full stop. can't understand why anyone would walk away from a game with a smile on their face thinking "Well, we lost but it was bloody good entertainment"...however, i'm one of those realists that enjoys safety play in Snooker as much as good potting because, like setting up defensively against an attack minded French side (which we did very well and as Joe says had the discipline to not let them get ahead of us), sometimes there are tactics you HAVE to instill in order to get results...more than one way to skin a cat and all that and i find it quite refreshing for teams to try something different to the rest, especially in games where it's necessary! fair enough if you were bored by the French game but i can pretty much guarantee you that, given our current squad, if we had gone out to attack at a high tempo then France would have torn us a new one and that, for me anyway, would certainly not have entertained! |
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Post by lordeffinghamhunt on Jun 15, 2012 10:45:17 GMT
A draw is all that I can see from this game. One more nail in the coffin of our national teams hopes of staying in Euro 2012. Plus this game will be even duller than the game against France. Prediction 0-0 you must be a joy to live with ffs. Why? Because I'm saying it will be a bore draw. Let's look at the last 3 games. Norway. Boring 1-0 , Belgium not as boring 1-0 , France one shot and a1-1 draw. Can you see why I aren't getting carried away. |
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Post by Trouserdog on Jun 15, 2012 11:11:33 GMT
1-0 to England.
Sweden aren't very good and we're pretty average.
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Post by timmymallett on Jun 15, 2012 11:13:08 GMT
3-0 to England. Sweden are utter garbage
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Post by jwhpotter on Jun 15, 2012 11:15:25 GMT
Shittin meself about the game as always, 1-1 here then beat Ukraine and hopefully get through
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 15, 2012 12:15:56 GMT
3-1 England
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2012 12:26:42 GMT
I rarely bet on correct scores but I've gone for 1-1 in this What's your prediction agasin Joe,i missed it the first 3 times 2-1 England Gerrard Carroll  |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 15, 2012 12:28:30 GMT
1-1 mate
;D ;D ;D
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