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Post by steino72 on Apr 8, 2012 21:37:06 GMT
Help needed, I'm looking to get into running / jogging, Thinking I need a decent pair of trainers, My research takes me that NB, Brooks, Asics and Saucony are the best makes, Is that right, looking on ebay at a pair of asics only cos its a former sponsor  Any general tips, the mrs has just started as well and what should I avoid doing, ie: not pushing/pushing myself too much shes been out 3 times in the last week, She's been out 3 times in the last week...shes touching 2 miles, should she do more? or is that right, I'm thinking it is. She's inspired me really  , only thing is I like a drink 3 times a week normally 4 pints or so each time, non smoker for 10 years, 100k (weight) and 6' tall, Any help greatly appreciated, Also thinking of joining a running club once I feel confident enough |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2012 21:46:28 GMT
You need to buy a pair with good arch supports and a soft cushioned heel. If it's a fitness thing , then also perhaps consider combining it with cycling which is even better in many respects as it doesn't impact on the joints so harshly. Lifelong cyclists live on average 10 years longer than those who don't , that's assuming that they don't get run over by a bus.
I used to regularly ride to Manchester and back but that was when the roads were much quieter and safer. Sadly , I had to pack it in when she ditched me, so I threw my trouser clips away and got the bus 'up anley duck' ...and the rest is history as they say.
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Post by boothy on Apr 8, 2012 21:52:06 GMT
As far as trainers go, I'd go for some Asics Gel Nimbus, comfiest trainers I've ever worn. Not really a fan of NB, they've been making really smart trainers lately but they're just not up there with some of the other brands in my opinion.
Also, Nike just released some pretty damn comfy running shoes as well. Pretty sure they're called "Flex". The Nike's are also a lot cheaper too.
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Post by steino72 on Apr 8, 2012 22:50:15 GMT
You need to buy a pair with good arch supports and a soft cushioned heel. If it's a fitness thing , then also perhaps consider combining it with cycling which is even better in many respects as it doesn't impact on the joints so harshly. Lifelong cyclists live on average 10 years longer than those who don't , that's assuming that they don't get run over by a bus. I used to regularly ride to Manchester and back but that was when the roads were much quieter and safer. Sadly , I had to pack it in when she ditched me, so I threw my trouser clips away and got the bus 'up anley duck' ...and the rest is history as they say. Cheers Mumf, Its never too late though surely, Keep cycling chief |
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Post by steino72 on Apr 8, 2012 22:53:12 GMT
As far as trainers go, I'd go for some Asics Gel Nimbus, comfiest trainers I've ever worn. Not really a fan of NB, they've been making really smart trainers lately but they're just not up there with some of the other brands in my opinion. Also, Nike just released some pretty damn comfy running shoes as well. Pretty sure they're called "Flex". The Nike's are also a lot cheaper too. Sound advice that, thank you...Getting some 2nd hand nimbus gel-cumulus for the wife hopefully from the bay, just in case the fad wears off!! I have a shitty pair of reeboks at the mo, not to comfy so may go the asics nimbus route myself, thanks again |
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Post by Northy on Apr 9, 2012 6:03:26 GMT
don't buy any trainers until you have had your running gait checked out properly on a machine that videos your running style, it's no use buying a pair like mumf states if you have a very low arch, you could over pronate or under pronate and need support in different areas, it will cause problems in your joints higher up the leg and hip, and the impact on joints is a bit of a myth, mainly from lardies as an excuse to not exercise get yourself up to Alderey Edge and check out Running bear or any dedicated running shop, not a sports clothing store that sells trainers www.runningbear.co.uk/and enjoy the running, nothing like getting out around the countryside on a lovely spring morning |
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Post by Arthurdollar on Apr 9, 2012 6:19:47 GMT
Running advice eh, get a taxi or a bus.
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Post by Northy on Apr 9, 2012 6:24:30 GMT
Running advice eh, get a taxi or a bus.   |
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Post by casper113 on Apr 9, 2012 6:49:49 GMT
buy a bike and forget the running, running to bad on the knees, get yourself fit and you could easy do 20 miles a day and take in some great views around staffordshire.
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Post by frasier99 on Apr 9, 2012 7:31:56 GMT
All i'll say is your knees will be fooked within weeks, pounding the streets with that weight ;D
seriously, listen to Northy
i am proof of poor technique and wrong trainers
my knee has been fooked since december and thats just from on a treadmill
i have no problems with bikes though
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Post by kingdongstwin on Apr 9, 2012 8:04:06 GMT
Regarding the actual running but, if you google BUPA training, they offer free training tips (specifically for the runs they sponsor but you could do anyway). Go into stuff like warming up/down and how you should initially measure your runs by time not distance. Hope this helps!
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Post by steino72 on Apr 9, 2012 8:06:10 GMT
All i'll say is your knees will be fooked within weeks, pounding the streets with that weight ;D seriously, listen to Northy i am proof of poor technique and wrong trainers my knee has been fooked since december and thats just from on a treadmill i have no problems with bikes though Cheers Pal My dad was a marathon runner and he was a similar size to me, started running when he was 40....In the end his cartlidge was fooked, still feel the urge to run though, my weight will come down so I'm hoping not to wreck them too much.. |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Apr 9, 2012 8:07:02 GMT
I have been a cyclist since I was a kid 50 years ago and its a brilliant form of excercise. Since the hip replacement last year I have had no problems, in fact getting on and off is easier with the new hip. I used to do hill walking on Dartmoor with the missus most week ends but the hip replacement put a stop to that. But more from choice than not being able to. To compensate bought a couple of sit-on kayaks and now get excercise paddling on the Yealm and other rivers and coast around Plymouth.
Steino I would go carefully if you are serious about running and take advice from above and professionals before you start mate.
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Post by Northy on Apr 9, 2012 8:08:04 GMT
buy a bike and forget the running, running to bad on the knees, no it's not, that's just a myth, get the correct shoes for your feet and style and it's no problem, just like cycling can give you joint and back problems if you don't set up right on a bike |
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Post by scfc1983 on Apr 9, 2012 8:39:39 GMT
I packed in football last season and started running more instead. I've been going out twice a week since November and I could only manage 2-3 miles at first, (despite thinking I was quite fit) but now I do 8-10 miles. Just build it up gradually and don't expect to turn into an Olympic champion overnight. If you want to do it seriously it will take time to build up your leg strength and stamina to reasonable levels. It will be tough at first but don't give up when you have set backs. I can go out sometimes and really struggle but that is probably because of the beer the night before! As for trainers I have a pair of Asics that I love, but as the others have already said, get checked out properly because they are a very personal thing. Hopefully we will see you at the Potters Arf sometime soon! |
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Post by roger1972 on Apr 9, 2012 9:01:49 GMT
If you go Bourne sports or go outdoors they can put you on a treadmill and check your running gait which may help you finding better shoes than wrong ones, and build it up slowly :-)
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Post by alcommunicado on Apr 9, 2012 10:09:52 GMT
buy a bike and forget the running, running to bad on the knees, no it's not, that's just a myth, get the correct shoes for your feet and style and it's no problem, just like cycling can give you joint and back problems if you don't set up right on a bike This. Started running again last September and the left knee was fooked by the end of October. The solution was a trip to Shuropody in Trentham gardens to get some inserts and the correct arch then on to Bourne Sports for a pair of Asics neutral trainers. No more knee problems and I've run three times a week since November. As for starting don't run more than two miles for the first two weeks and get three days of recovery in between runs. By week three you can start increasing at a mile a week. Best suggestion is to listen to Northwich. He's a bit of a know-it-all but on this subject he actually does |
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Post by swampySCFC on Apr 9, 2012 10:32:06 GMT
My missus went to a place on Festival park where they do the filming stuff and advise properly. ASICS is what she ended up with
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Post by steino72 on Apr 9, 2012 11:38:31 GMT
Thanks for all the tips, Can't wait to get going now. Potters arf in June may be to soon!! But looking at 10k's like the Cheddleton Christmas pudding run in November/December seem more achievable. |
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Post by oasis on Apr 9, 2012 12:35:53 GMT
My missus went to a place on Festival park where they do the filming stuff. AIDS is what she ended up with  wrong thread mate...  |
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Post by basingstokie on Apr 9, 2012 14:09:58 GMT
I'be done quite a bitcof running (6 1/2 marathons, few 10k's etc) and would echo Northwich's advice - get to a decent running shop and get your gait analysed before you spend any cash. After that I'd recommend Park run ( google it) which are free 5k runs all over country, inc Hanley each Sat at 9am. You could walk it at first and not come last. Once you get jogging you'll be surprised how quick the improvement comes. There is no catch with ParkRun, apart from 9am on a Saturday morning. Good luck
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Post by steino72 on Apr 9, 2012 14:32:41 GMT
I'be done quite a bitcof running (6 1/2 marathons, few 10k's etc) and would echo Northwich's advice - get to a decent running shop and get your gait analysed before you spend any cash. After that I'd recommend Park run ( google it) which are free 5k runs all over country, inc Hanley each Sat at 9am. You could walk it at first and not come last. Once you get jogging you'll be surprised how quick the improvement comes. There is no catch with ParkRun, apart from 9am on a Saturday morning. Good luck That Park run looks like it could work for me and the mrs a bit of friendly rivalry, good website, thanks |
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Post by frasier99 on Apr 9, 2012 14:52:04 GMT
no it's not, that's just a myth, get the correct shoes for your feet and style and it's no problem, just like cycling can give you joint and back problems if you don't set up right on a bike This. Started running again last September and the left knee was fooked by the end of October. The solution was a trip to Shuropody in Trentham gardens to get some inserts and the correct arch then on to Bourne Sports for a pair of Asics neutral trainers. No more knee problems and I've run three times a week since November. As for starting don't run more than two miles for the first two weeks and get three days of recovery in between runs. By week three you can start increasing at a mile a week. Best suggestion is to listen to Northwich. He's a bit of a know-it-all but on this subject he actually does ;D |
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Post by swampySCFC on Apr 9, 2012 15:12:52 GMT
This. Started running again last September and the left knee was fooked by the end of October. The solution was a trip to Shuropody in Trentham gardens to get some inserts and the correct arch then on to Bourne Sports for a pair of Asics neutral trainers. No more knee problems and I've run three times a week since November. As for starting don't run more than two miles for the first two weeks and get three days of recovery in between runs. By week three you can start increasing at a mile a week. Best suggestion is to listen to Northwich. He's a bit of a know-it-all but on this subject he actually does ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Los Alfareros on Apr 9, 2012 15:24:52 GMT
Shag your missus twice a day for 20 minutes standing up.
Save the trainer money for beer.
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Post by bignickhowes on Apr 10, 2012 11:10:54 GMT
got a good pair of Nike running trainers but like others have said cycling is better and I much prefer it. I don't do a lot but try and do about 60 miles a week
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Apr 10, 2012 15:55:37 GMT
Plaster your nipples up!!
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Post by Northy on Apr 10, 2012 19:34:46 GMT
Plaster your nipples up!! i do for half marathons and above, plenty of vaseline on them first |
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Post by KevinWhimper on Apr 10, 2012 21:52:44 GMT
I want to start running and get fit but I'm a moderately fat bastard smoker who cant run a mile without struggling to breath or having my calves sieze up. Obviously firstly i need to stop smoking but how far should I run to start with etc?
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Post by alcommunicado on Apr 11, 2012 7:04:29 GMT
I want to start running and get fit but I'm a moderately fat bastard smoker who cant run a mile without struggling to breath or having my calves sieze up. Obviously firstly i need to stop smoking but how far should I run to start with etc? Half a mile? Seriously why don't you walk a couple of miles as fast as you can for a few weeks and then run a single mile and walk afterwards. There's no problem in stopping at any time for a rest/recovery. There's no manual saying you've got to improve on the previous day's run. |
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, only thing is I like a drink 3 times a week normally 4 pints or so each time, non smoker for 10 years, 100k (weight) and 6' tall,
wrong thread mate... 
