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Post by wingy1964 on Jan 17, 2012 13:08:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2012 13:09:52 GMT
It would be good if we could keep the ball a bit better though.
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Post by Plave on Jan 17, 2012 13:10:18 GMT
I read that one of the Swansea midfield has the best passing stats in all the top European leagues at the moment.
It doesn't mean much.
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Post by skip on Jan 17, 2012 13:13:33 GMT
I don't know (he says, toying with the idea of reading all about tactics), but if you play a certain way, then one presumes their is a higher risk of passes* going astray, rather than shorter passes which are simply more likely to reach their intended player. Therefore, we may statistically have the lowest pass rate but it doesn't necessarily equate to the successful final outcome of a game. He said, making it up as he went along.
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Post by magicmanfuller on Jan 17, 2012 13:16:45 GMT
what is dealps pass rate completition? below 50% is the predcition
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 17, 2012 13:18:54 GMT
which means, our completed pass to goal ratio must be one of the best.........our way of playing is now renamed "efficient football" or "economical football" ;D
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Post by Binndy on Jan 17, 2012 13:19:40 GMT
I reckon all apart of the game plan !
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Post by staffordstokie999 on Jan 17, 2012 13:20:19 GMT
I read that one of the Swansea midfield has the best passing stats in all the top European leagues at the moment. It doesn't mean much. reading the papers and listening to the pundits since Sunday i think it does, apparantly only Barcelona are better than them. |
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Jan 17, 2012 13:22:33 GMT
69.8% pass rate seems pretty good to me considering we hoof it all the time!  |
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Post by 1raytupper on Jan 17, 2012 13:23:13 GMT
which means, our completed pass to goal ratio must be one of the best.........our way of playing is now renamed "efficient football" or "economical football" ;D Spot on - I was about to say them same myself. This type of stat means nowt. The only stat that counts is points tally. |
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Post by skip on Jan 17, 2012 13:27:08 GMT
True. You may as well argue that Turner painted more beautiful pictures than Cezanne because he used a wider colour palette. Er... you know what I mean. i.e. it's a pointless debate. A straw man debate.
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Post by superjonnywalters on Jan 17, 2012 13:29:11 GMT
Our pass completion is more to do with our Managers tactics than our players ability to pass it to each other.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2012 13:29:39 GMT
hold onto the ball better = more chance of getting more goals
not rocket science really
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 17, 2012 13:37:28 GMT
Our pass completion is more to do with our Managers tactics than our players ability to pass it to each other. 100% bang on. |
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 17, 2012 13:40:08 GMT
Our pass completion is more to do with our Managers tactics than our players ability to pass it to each other. 100% bang on. those tactics aren't working too badly though are they? 8th in the league closer to 4th than 18th 4th round of the FA Cup last 32 of the Europa League realistically a club of our size and stature cant really ask for more! |
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Post by foster on Jan 17, 2012 13:42:18 GMT
Wasn't this already common knowledge?
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Post by matisfaction on Jan 17, 2012 14:10:12 GMT
those tactics aren't working too badly though are they? 8th in the league closer to 4th than 18th 4th round of the FA Cup last 32 of the Europa League realistically a club of our size and stature cant really ask for more! None of that counts for some people, being higher in the stats league is far more important apparently |
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Post by oasis on Jan 17, 2012 14:58:56 GMT
Fuck me, I'm chuffed with that...I was genuinely expecting less than 50%!  It's just like watching Brazil.... |
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Post by rosco on Jan 17, 2012 15:02:21 GMT
Leon Britton has a better pass rate than Xavi, Iniesta and Xabi Alonso  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2012 15:04:58 GMT
hold onto the ball better = more chance of getting more goals not rocket science really Spot on. An equally basic point is that the other team can't score if you've got the ball. Given we set up to keep it tight and nick something away from home, you'd think we'd be up for not continually giving the ball away. |
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Post by superjonnywalters on Jan 17, 2012 15:07:13 GMT
Just to clarify, I wasn't having a dig at TP, I was just giving the stat more relevance.
There is a reason why we're the lowest but who gives a fuck if we get results?
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Post by Lesalanos on Jan 17, 2012 15:26:05 GMT
I used to live next door to a Stoke midfielder back in 2000/01. When the opts stats etc starting appearing. He told me to watch him on a particular game to see how the stats were flawed. He completed 10 passes in less than a minute by picking the ball off the centre half, he then passed unchellenged to both full backs the centre halves into midfield and eventually when closed down back to the keeper. We won the game 1 o from a punt up the pitch |
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Post by jbstokie on Jan 17, 2012 15:38:14 GMT
Didn't we get the same pass rate as Citeh on the day we beat Wolves/Blackburn away? 81% I believe (Sky Sports).
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Post by mcf on Jan 17, 2012 15:39:36 GMT
hold onto the ball better = more chance of getting more goals
not rocket science really
One thing you should have learned about watching Tony Pulis football is that all of the above is largely utter fucking bollocks.
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Post by jbstokie on Jan 17, 2012 15:40:07 GMT
hold onto the ball better = more chance of getting more goals not rocket science really Spot on. An equally basic point is that the other team can't score if you've got the ball. Given we set up to keep it tight and nick something away from home, you'd think we'd be up for not continually giving the ball away. That's funny because our opponents almost always have over 50% possession when we win/score more goals than them. |
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Post by mcf on Jan 17, 2012 15:40:53 GMT
Lesbos
Was it Karl Henry??? ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2012 15:42:44 GMT
Spot on. An equally basic point is that the other team can't score if you've got the ball. Given we set up to keep it tight and nick something away from home, you'd think we'd be up for not continually giving the ball away. That's funny because our opponents almost always have over 50% possession when we win/score more goals than them. Erm, yes. And? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2012 15:43:22 GMT
hold onto the ball better = more chance of getting more goals not rocket science really One thing you should have learned about watching Tony Pulis football is that all of the above is largely utter fucking bollocks. Tony Pulis football isn't exactly laden with goals is it merk? |
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 17, 2012 15:43:53 GMT
I read that one of the Swansea midfield has the best passing stats in all the top European leagues at the moment. It doesn't mean much. I'd say it does because Swansea are doing very well in a division in which they were expected to go straight down That good passing is probably making a positive impact on their success |
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Post by mosquito on Jan 17, 2012 15:49:09 GMT
Has no one notice our game plan. When you receive the ball in defense, close your eyes, swing a leg at it and shout the name Sidibe, Kenwynne, Crouchie ;D Don't know about you, it may not be pretty, but it will do for me with the success it has brought to the club |
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