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Post by tuum on May 30, 2015 17:31:45 GMT
Babs and Hicky definitely lived up to their reputations. Babs was a very game gentleman. Hicky had great charisma, a great leader. Both still show up from time to time for 'important' matches but Hicky less so as he lives in the Philippines. Also, you missed one of ours from the 'good old days' which was Danny 'Eccles' Harkins, he still goes too. I can second that about Hicky. I first met him around 1999 when I was working in The Philippines. Didnt know him from Adam but found him a personable bloke and ended going on the piss around the Subic Bay area with him for a couple of days. Met up with him in Pattaya a few months later. We spent more time than I liked in the dogs bollocks. You could see why Hicky was the leader. He was the only one with a brain...most of the Chelsea fans I met in The Dogs were thick,racist numpties. Hicky was always good company and level headed. I actually saw Hicky about a month ago in a bar in Bangkok. Didnt recognise him at first as he had put a bit of weight on. By the time his ID registered with me he had paid his bill and was gone.
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Post by cobham on May 31, 2015 4:35:43 GMT
Do you know Steve Toombs ? he is an old mate of mine Name sounds familiar but I can't say that I do. I don't want to give the wrong impression, I'm not that 'itk', the three that were mentioned in the OP (and DH who I mentioned) were REALLY big names of ours that you couldn't help but know about/follow.
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Post by cobham on May 31, 2015 5:19:09 GMT
I can second that about Hicky. I first met him around 1999 when I was working in The Philippines. Didnt know him from Adam but found him a personable bloke and ended going on the piss around the Subic Bay area with him for a couple of days. Met up with him in Pattaya a few months later. We spent more time than I liked in the dogs bollocks. You could see why Hicky was the leader. He was the only one with a brain...most of the Chelsea fans I met in The Dogs were thick,racist numpties. Hicky was always good company and level headed. I actually saw Hicky about a month ago in a bar in Bangkok. Didnt recognise him at first as he had put a bit of weight on. By the time his ID registered with me he had paid his bill and was gone. He had 'it', whatever 'it' is. Stories about him are legion and many of them are actually quite funny. He liked a good dress up, WWII flying hats and Biggles goggles were not unusual, in fact they seemed to be a bit of a favourite and once, famously, he wore a gorilla suit at Orient and climbed the floodlights. There's a picture of that that made the papers somewhere. Anyway, he didn't seem to take himself too seriously. Once lead a mob of Chelsea up to Kensington after a game to 're-take' the Iranian Embassy during the siege, probably best for all parties that it fell through when they got there. He was also very big in the England scene in the 80s and had a lot of followers and not all of them Chelsea. My own few brief forays into the scene at Chelsea were all following Hickey when he was rallying the troops, at West Ham when they were having that documentary made about them is one I particularly remember. Never really heard anything about him being racist either (though don't know him well enough so can't accurately comment). Unfortunately, as you pointed out, that doesn't appear to be the case with some of the others. As far as I understand it the Dog's Bollocks was opened on the compensation paid when Operation Own Goal was torn up. This was the group that first called themselves the Headhunters (before that we were just Chelsea as a whole or smaller groups named after the area you were from so Stockwell, Kilburn, Battersea, etc.) I believe a few (or more) of this group are unfortunately just as you described them. The 90s lot who took over after the court cases killed things for a while were pretty bad too I think. A lot of older Chelsea were not too happy about how the Headhunters name became so well known and associated with us nor what some of them believed in but now we're stuck with it and sadly with that rep.
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Post by cobham on May 31, 2015 5:41:40 GMT
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Post by Matthews dad on May 31, 2015 5:52:18 GMT
The tupper brothers from Meir, Bobby and Ray I think they were called, proper legends.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 7:44:02 GMT
Was it the first game of the 93/94 season Waggy? When the millwall stormed the Butler Street stand and had a little standoff with Stoke Fans in the paddock below?? Thats the one. They came over after the laddies in the paddock. If the man who helped trevor and i is on here thank you i will pour you a bovril one time. I can remember this one. I saw our top boy dive into Woolworth's to hide. Not very naughty that day. Millwall were horrible.
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Post by bathstoke on May 31, 2015 7:57:52 GMT
Thats the one. They came over after the laddies in the paddock. If the man who helped trevor and i is on here thank you i will pour you a bovril one time. I can remember this one. I saw our top boy dive into Woolworth's to hide. Not very naughty that day. Millwall were horrible. Perhaps he was after Pick&Mix
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on May 31, 2015 8:01:34 GMT
Legends? Never Yobs and idiots yes. Seen little kids terrified by them, old folks knocked over and trodden on who had nothing to do with football. Shoppers in City centres abused and attacked. If that makes them 'legends' then god help us.
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Post by Billybigbollox on May 31, 2015 11:30:55 GMT
One got caught up in a scence against millwall when their spectator ruffians ran across knocked my bovril out of my hand and trod on Trevors new clarks simplex shoes. Anyway a young hooligan type of fella stepoed in to save order ( i was close to blowing my fuse and shouting ' chap have some respect') my point of this post is they can be cretins at times and silly behaviour should be outlawed but them types can be of use to the general public You should've written a strongly worded letter of complaint to Frank Maloney Waggy. As a boxing promoter and Millwall fan he could've sorted the fuckers out for you at the time. Mind you as he has now had the cut n tuck, as Kellie she would probably only be able to help you with flower arranging or advice on mascara and other soft shit like that.
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Post by stokemark on May 31, 2015 16:35:35 GMT
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Post by jarvinski on May 31, 2015 20:10:25 GMT
Don't forget Dave Orpe, PJ and Huggis, all Stoke lunatics in the late 60's
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Post by Waggy on Jun 2, 2015 6:11:40 GMT
Thats the one. They came over after the laddies in the paddock. If the man who helped trevor and i is on here thank you i will pour you a bovril one time. I can remember this one. I saw our top boy dive into Woolworth's to hide. Not very naughty that day. Millwall were horrible. I often went to Woolworths before games at the old victoria ground really upset when it closed. Dont know said ' top boy' is but perhaps he was looking for a pocket battery operated fan as i was. Twere a hot day that day.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 6:17:36 GMT
I can remember this one. I saw our top boy dive into Woolworth's to hide. Not very naughty that day. Millwall were horrible. I often went to Woolworths before games at the old victoria ground really upset when it closed. Dont know said ' top boy' is but perhaps he was looking for a pocket battery operated fan as i was. Twere a hot day that day. Rather than shopping for personal electronics, for all intents and purposes he rather appeared to be running for his life.
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Post by Waggy on Jun 2, 2015 6:23:01 GMT
I often went to Woolworths before games at the old victoria ground really upset when it closed. Dont know said ' top boy' is but perhaps he was looking for a pocket battery operated fan as i was. Twere a hot day that day. Rather than shopping for personal electronics, for all intents and purposes he rather appeared to be running for his life. I say, good job i was not caught up in such behaviour. Only ever got asked if ' i want some' ( which i admit i didnt know what he was offering at the time) and that was by a 'zulu'. I just told him ' what would your mother say if she could see you now' . He walked off calling me a ' retard' and something else.
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Jun 2, 2015 7:01:59 GMT
Was it the first game of the 93/94 season Waggy? When the millwall stormed the Butler Street stand and had a little standoff with Stoke Fans in the paddock below?? Thats the one. They came over after the laddies in the paddock. If the man who helped trevor and i is on here thank you i will pour you a bovril one time. He was very lucky the Stoke boys caught him when he jumped down into the paddock Waggy. He may well have hurt his ankles from that height
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 2, 2015 7:02:40 GMT
Don't forget Dave Orpe, PJ and Huggis, all Stoke lunatics in the late 60's Or Charlie "Chopper" Chadwick & chums from the 30's
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 7:22:37 GMT
Don't forget Dave Orpe, PJ and Huggis, all Stoke lunatics in the late 60's Or Charlie "Chopper" Chadwick & chums from the 30's Vintage ruffians by the sound of things. Did you run with them Bath?
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Post by fentonstokie1 on Jun 2, 2015 12:47:05 GMT
Wolves had a girl, Tina, who used to run with their Temple Street mob. Remember seeing her getting stuck in along Lonsdale Street after the game mid 70's. I was there however I did manage to avoid the humiliation of being lamped by a girlie.
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 2, 2015 15:21:04 GMT
Or Charlie "Chopper" Chadwick & chums from the 30's Vintage ruffians by the sound of things. Did you run with them Bath? I thought they were more your era by the look of your photo
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 15:26:49 GMT
Vintage ruffians by the sound of things. Did you run with them Bath? I thought they were more your era by the look of your photo That's not actually me. I think of it more as a post-modernist metaphysical self-portrait. Is that you in your photo Fidel?
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Post by thevoid on Jun 2, 2015 15:55:38 GMT
I remember running into Arsenal's top boys, Rueben and Tarquin, in a pub in Islington awhile back. It was Steak Club, and I made the mistake of having a Pinot Grigio with my sirloin. They bowled over and Rueben slapped my face with his silk cravat and told me I should have had a Shiraz or Cabinet Sauvignon with red meat. They gave me their calling card (it was pink and scented with Juniper), and told me to meet them for punishment in the toilets in 10 minutes.
I made a hasty exit and went to Yates's.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 16:00:35 GMT
The tupper brothers from Meir, Bobby and Ray I think they were called, proper legends. It's the way you tell em
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jun 2, 2015 16:44:34 GMT
Don't forget Dave Orpe, PJ and Huggis, all Stoke lunatics in the late 60's PJ refused to get his hair cut until Stoke won the Cup. Remember Orpey well,dont remember a Huggis though.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Jun 2, 2015 19:21:21 GMT
Grew up with Orpey in Mount Pleasant, he was best mates with my cousin. He had loads of brothers and sisters, his mum was a Gypsy Queen .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 0:31:34 GMT
I remember running into Arsenal's top boys, Rueben and Tarquin, in a pub in Islington awhile back. It was Steak Club, and I made the mistake of having a Pinot Grigio with my sirloin. They bowled over and Rueben slapped my face with his silk cravat and told me I should have had a Shiraz or Cabinet Sauvignon with red meat. They gave me their calling card (it was pink and scented with Juniper), and told me to meet them for punishment in the toilets in 10 minutes. I made a hasty exit and went to Yates's. This looks like a situation for Waggy and his chums to sort out.
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Post by jarvinski on Jun 3, 2015 20:04:28 GMT
Huggis's name was Hughes, he'd got ginger hair
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Post by hanibal7 on Jun 4, 2015 11:48:03 GMT
Don't forget Dave Orpe, PJ and Huggis, all Stoke lunatics in the late 60's David Orpe was married to a blond girl??? and lived on smithpool rd???? in and out of jail.Was a decent guy
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Post by hanibal7 on Jun 4, 2015 11:50:14 GMT
If my memory serves me right, was there a guy named EDDSIE from Northwood. I remember a game with vale and he ran on the pitch and threatened the goalie
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Post by Skankmonkey on Jun 4, 2015 11:57:20 GMT
" Hold the line ".................. fat Vale bastard on You Tube I seem to remember the Vale used to have a greaser named Shagrat in the '60's. He was their "name".
I might have hallucinated this though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 12:55:29 GMT
Babs and Hicky definitely lived up to their reputations. Babs was a very game gentleman. Hicky had great charisma, a great leader. Both still show up from time to time for 'important' matches but Hicky less so as he lives in the Philippines. Also, you missed one of ours from the 'good old days' which was Danny 'Eccles' Harkins, he still goes too. I can second that about Hicky. I first met him around 1999 when I was working in The Philippines. Didnt know him from Adam but found him a personable bloke and ended going on the piss around the Subic Bay area with him for a couple of days. Met up with him in Pattaya a few months later. We spent more time than I liked in the dogs bollocks. You could see why Hicky was the leader. He was the only one with a brain...most of the Chelsea fans I met in The Dogs were thick,racist numpties. Hicky was always good company and level headed. I actually saw Hicky about a month ago in a bar in Bangkok. Didnt recognise him at first as he had put a bit of weight on. By the time his ID registered with me he had paid his bill and was gone. Ay up pal. There was an article on Andrew Drummond ( now blocked here in Thai) about one of the headhunters Chubby Henderson, famous picture of him holding his 3 year old kid at a game giving the finger to the away fans. Apparently Henderson returned back to UK and died of Cancer, did you know him, he was one of the owners of the Dog's Bollocks. Never been there myself.. I find the I Rovers a bit intimidating, remember when we watched that Stoke game there, full of Leeds Utd fans...
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