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Post by onionman on Oct 21, 2011 14:19:42 GMT
That was the first through ball I have seen (probably exaggerating) from a Stoke player in the centre since Lawrence played in Fuller for his goal against Aston Villa in the first season. Think someone made that exact comment a couple of weeks ago in reference to a similar pass made by Palacios. Things are looking promising. I recall one from Marc Wilson to release Jones in a home match early last season. But yes such things are pretty rare.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2011 14:22:24 GMT
if only kenwynne could have finished like Ric the Jamiacan Villa Killer!!
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 21, 2011 16:11:17 GMT
I think he's a starter on Sunday. Looked much fitter than when he joined us..... and plays in black boots!! Not that I doubted TP but a fit Palacios is miles better than any other midfielder at the club. Agree he looks very promising, but not sure he is ready for the full 90 minutes yet! He sure will be though, and then we have a hell of a player in the middle of the park! ;D
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Post by march4 on Oct 21, 2011 17:00:16 GMT
Getting fitter, but still a Billy Glassback worry for me.
Hope I'm wrong.
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 21, 2011 17:36:17 GMT
It's Whelan and Palacios for me. Imagine....two central midfielders who are capable of regularly passing the ball, not only to each other but to other players in our team. Also, Shotton couldn't have done any more to cement his place if he'd worn a sandwich board that read "I don't know if you've noticed, but i'm fucking brilliant at football" throughout the match. He's like Glenn Johnson, only much, much better. I think pulls has a problem trying to keep 4 center halves happy so our very promising young full backs will struggle to keep their places even if they play out of their skin
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Post by ParaPsych on Oct 21, 2011 19:44:26 GMT
Three assists from crosses (2 corners, 1 open play) for Deano this season. 3 more than Pennant. Clearly the guy in front of you knows his stuff. Maybe Deano should play on the wing? Actually I was incredibly frustrated with him when he got into a good wide position towards the end yesterday (during his wing stint) and tried to pass it inside to someone running in rather than cross it. Needless to say he cocked it up. He can't pass. He can cross. Why didn't he just try the one he can do? A player like Whitehead should always try to hit the ball as hard as he can. Anything else is asking for trouble. If Pennant would put some corners in against Swansea, maybe just maybe we wouldn't have lost! I was going nuts at Pennant during the Swansea game because I thought we had plenty of corners and free kicks and caused no problems from any of them. But we know he's a great player and he'll sort it out. I also think Pulis could maybe have helped by putting someone else on set-piece duty once it became clear he wasn't going to put a good one in.
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Post by fentonstokie1 on Oct 21, 2011 21:03:17 GMT
Once Higgy returns and WP is Stoke fit i'm hoping for a Palacios Wilson midfield. And me, can't wait.
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Post by numpty40 on Oct 21, 2011 21:22:37 GMT
I think Wilson has turned out to be a better left back than central midielder, he is certainly head and shoulders above Higgy at left back.
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Post by worcsstokie15 on Oct 21, 2011 21:42:56 GMT
I think Wilson is great at left back. I'm happy to accept the odd skinning he gets off tricky wingers because of all the other positive parts of his game i.e distribution, ball retention. Struggling to think of an out and out full back or a centre half filling in (a la Higgy and Huthy) who we could buy in Jan and be a marked improvement on Marc Wilson. Maybe Ridgewell? Save the £££ and spend it on a decent winger I say!!
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Post by march4 on Oct 21, 2011 21:59:28 GMT
I think Wilson has turned out to be a better left back than central midielder, he is certainly head and shoulders above Higgy at left back. Wilson is bottom of the centre backs pecking order and must be below Begovic when it comes to midfield. He is the worst midfielder I have ever seen in a Stoke shirt and there has been some rubbish over the decades. Will he keep Higgy out of the left back spot? Otherwise he will follow the same career path as Danny Collins. A disappointing signing in my book.
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Post by Beardy200 on Oct 21, 2011 22:05:33 GMT
I too loved the black boots. Of our squad, only Fuller is good enough to get away with coloured boots. The rest of them should wear black! My mates take the piss out of me for continually droning on about it! to itsmorethanagame....Whatever you say mate! People can applaud and cheer who the hell they want, I couldn't give a flying toss. I applauded Salif all through the game because he is is brilliant. Some people will clap anything and I have never understood, nor will I understand, how some stoke fans value headless chicken running around more than quality play. Hence my comment. I support my team as much as the next supporter and back them wholeheartedly before during and after games. They never give less than 100% and they get nowt less than 100% from me in return. I am sure I am not alone in letting out the odd exasperated expletive though, usually at away games. The Salif love-in does kind of contradict that Dave as he has very little quality and barely runs around either. Delap, Whitehead and Whelan - I don't really care which one of them plays and don't really have a pecking order. They all have their own positives and negatives but the nett result is they're all nothing special. I'd pick each one based on the opposition we're up against and whichever one suits. Horses for course so to speak. When he's fully fit Palacios should be the first horse on every course with one other.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Oct 21, 2011 22:06:17 GMT
worst midfielder ever seen in a Stoke shirt?
You've been going longer than 3 years, surely march? Indeed, even if you haven't, you must have seen Seyi Olifanjana?
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Post by Beardy200 on Oct 21, 2011 22:11:59 GMT
I think Wilson has turned out to be a better left back than central midielder, he is certainly head and shoulders above Higgy at left back. Wilson is bottom of the centre backs pecking order and must be below Begovic when it comes to midfield. He is the worst midfielder I have ever seen in a Stoke shirt and there has been some rubbish over the decades. Will he keep Higgy out of the left back spot? Otherwise he will follow the same career path as Danny Collins. A disappointing signing in my book. You're basing his midfield abilities on an incredibly small amount of evidence march. He's been here a lot longer now and seems to have much more confidence than when he came. I'd like to see him given another try alongside Palacios. I also think he's done well at fullback. If Higgy does reclaim his LB spot there is a debate to be had that Wilson may be the best option for RB.
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Post by roylandstoke on Oct 21, 2011 22:31:22 GMT
I think Wilson has turned out to be a better left back than central midielder, he is certainly head and shoulders above Higgy at left back. Wilson is bottom of the centre backs pecking order and must be below Begovic when it comes to midfield. He is the worst midfielder I have ever seen in a Stoke shirt and there has been some rubbish over the decades. Will he keep Higgy out of the left back spot? Otherwise he will follow the same career path as Danny Collins. A disappointing signing in my book. I always thought you'd been going for years march, seems I was wrong. I've seen worse than Dave Rowson, never mind Marc Wilson.
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Post by foster on Oct 22, 2011 0:02:20 GMT
I think Wilson has turned out to be a better left back than central midielder, he is certainly head and shoulders above Higgy at left back. Wilson is bottom of the centre backs pecking order and must be below Begovic when it comes to midfield. He is the worst midfielder I have ever seen in a Stoke shirt and there has been some rubbish over the decades. Will he keep Higgy out of the left back spot? Otherwise he will follow the same career path as Danny Collins. A disappointing signing in my book. *spreads cheeks* 'PAAAAARRRRRPPPPP'. That is all.
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Post by lordb on Oct 22, 2011 8:45:15 GMT
Getting fitter, but still a Billy Glassback worry for me. Hope I'm wrong. march I understand where you are coming from however 1: that was the risk we took & if it comes off happy days 2:he would still be a t Spurs if he was fit 3: 50% *at least) of the posters on here wont know who Billy Glassback was
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Post by hchpotter on Oct 22, 2011 8:52:23 GMT
If Wilson scores 4 against Wolves this season, like Billy did, he'll quickly become a cult hero - unlike Billy.
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 22, 2011 14:18:37 GMT
I reckon he might start Plassy at Arsenull because he used to play for Spurs.
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Post by Davef on Oct 22, 2011 20:12:49 GMT
I think Wilson has turned out to be a better left back than central midielder, he is certainly head and shoulders above Higgy at left back. Wilson is bottom of the centre backs pecking order and must be below Begovic when it comes to midfield. He is the worst midfielder I have ever seen in a Stoke shirt and there has been some rubbish over the decades. Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. Up there with the most ridiculous stuff you've posted actually March. Give it a rest.
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Post by salopstick on Oct 22, 2011 20:17:03 GMT
That was the first through ball I have seen (probably exaggerating) from a Stoke player in the centre since Lawrence played in Fuller for his goal against Aston Villa in the first season. some on here say it wasnt a through ball
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 22, 2011 20:36:01 GMT
I think Wilson has turned out to be a better left back than central midielder, he is certainly head and shoulders above Higgy at left back. Wilson is bottom of the centre backs pecking order and must be below Begovic when it comes to midfield. He is the worst midfielder I have ever seen in a Stoke shirt and there has been some rubbish over the decades. Will he keep Higgy out of the left back spot? Otherwise he will follow the same career path as Danny Collins. A disappointing signing in my book. If I thought about it, I`m pretty sure I could write down 100 midfielders who are worse/have been worse than Wilson for Stoke over the years.
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Post by potterglen on Oct 22, 2011 20:36:38 GMT
Agree. Him and Whitehead should be our first choice. I thought Deano had a fine game tonight. My arse Deano had a fine game, he didn't manage a forward pass until he was moved out onto the wing and shat himself whenever he had the ball at his feet. Whelan and Palacios - now there's a possibility.
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Post by potterglen on Oct 22, 2011 20:43:12 GMT
I think Wilson has turned out to be a better left back than central midielder, he is certainly head and shoulders above Higgy at left back. Wilson is bottom of the centre backs pecking order and must be below Begovic when it comes to midfield. He is the worst midfielder I have ever seen in a Stoke shirt and there has been some rubbish over the decades. Will he keep Higgy out of the left back spot? Otherwise he will follow the same career path as Danny Collins. A disappointing signing in my book. Shitbin
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Post by Davef on Oct 22, 2011 20:45:44 GMT
Wilson is bottom of the centre backs pecking order and must be below Begovic when it comes to midfield. He is the worst midfielder I have ever seen in a Stoke shirt and there has been some rubbish over the decades. Will he keep Higgy out of the left back spot? Otherwise he will follow the same career path as Danny Collins. A disappointing signing in my book. Shitbin Unfortunately, we can't put individual posts from a thread into the shit bin. We could start a thread and merge posts like that into it though. It's a staggering post, even by March's standards.
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Post by howedy on Oct 22, 2011 20:59:58 GMT
Can't wait to see Wilson and palacios in midfield together. I feel Marc wilsons ability is being lost at LB. He is definitely one of my favourite Stoke players and I think his attitude and work rate is brilliant. If palacios can replicate this they would be fantastic in the middle. They are both brilliant defensively and can make the runs forward too. Fun times for Stoke!
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Post by fentonstokie1 on Oct 22, 2011 21:25:12 GMT
Can't wait to see Wilson and palacios in midfield together. I feel Marc wilsons ability is being lost at LB. He is definitely one of my favourite Stoke players and I think his attitude and work rate is brilliant. If palacios can replicate this they would be fantastic in the middle. They are both brilliant defensively and can make the runs forward too. Fun times for Stoke! I'm with you mate, I also think that it could be a very good midfield partnership.
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Post by march4 on Oct 22, 2011 21:48:30 GMT
I can't believe anyone rates Marc Wilson in midfield.
I have seen us play in over 1000 games going back more than 50 years.
I hope I know a little bit about the game.
He is an above average full back who will do a steady job, but that is it and he will soon disappear once Higgy is back.
As for midfield, I'm sorry to be the little boy exposing the Emporer's New Clothes, but Wilson is not a midfielder and never will be. I would rather see Brian Bithell playing there and he must be be about 55 years of age by now!
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 22, 2011 21:53:40 GMT
I hope I know a little bit about the game. I'm afraid you don't.
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Post by Akinbadbuy on Oct 22, 2011 21:56:03 GMT
Palacios and Delap. Our midfield picks itself for me. Whelan and Whitehead arent good enough.
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Post by ParaPsych on Oct 22, 2011 22:06:05 GMT
I can't believe anyone rates Marc Wilson in midfield. I have seen us play in over 1000 games going back more than 50 years. I hope I know a little bit about the game. He is an above average full back who will do a steady job, but that is it and he will soon disappear once Higgy is back. As for midfield, I'm sorry to be the little boy exposing the Emporer's New Clothes, but Wilson is not a midfielder and never will be. I would rather see Brian Bithell playing there and he must be be about 55 years of age by now! Wilson played a great headed through-ball to Jerome for the third on Thursday. I'd have thought you'd appreciate that sort of skillful play?
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