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Post by numpty40 on Aug 25, 2011 21:07:09 GMT
Anyone still reckon it would be good business to sell the best centre back in the Premiership? He has played alongside three different partners in the Stoke defence this season and we've only conceded two goals in six games. He was immense tonight as he was all last season. This guy is the best central defender we've had since Smith and I wouldn't swap him for anyone else in the league.
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Post by drews1f on Aug 25, 2011 21:09:22 GMT
He's brilliant and I wouldnt sell him for the world. But IMO he is not our best CB - not yet anyway.
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Post by onlyonesirstan on Aug 25, 2011 21:12:15 GMT
He's brilliant and I wouldnt sell him for the world. But IMO he is not our best CB - not yet anyway. You are not allowed to play Denis Smith in this seasons Europa Cup
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Post by 16quidachuck on Aug 25, 2011 21:13:05 GMT
He aint the best cb in the league.
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 25, 2011 21:14:18 GMT
He aint the best cb in the league. Who is?
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Post by heavysoul on Aug 25, 2011 21:14:33 GMT
Typical display from Shawcross calm under pressure did his job brilliantly.
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Post by heavysoul on Aug 25, 2011 21:15:21 GMT
Well when i say calm under pressure wasnt really that much pressure.
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Post by Beloved Monkfish on Aug 25, 2011 21:15:59 GMT
He aint the best cb in the league. Who is? Just a few who are better than him; Terry, Vermaelen, Huth, Vidic, Ferdinand, Alex to name but a few
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Post by onlyonesirstan on Aug 25, 2011 21:16:16 GMT
He aint the best cb in the league. Who is? Huth
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Post by wickerman on Aug 25, 2011 21:18:01 GMT
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 25, 2011 21:19:09 GMT
Would you honestly swap Shawcross for Terry, Vermaelan, Ferdinand or Alex? You want to stop reading the Sun and watch a few Stoke games.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2011 21:19:16 GMT
History shows us as well as any other team - you can build succesful teams around the likes of Ryan Shawcross rather than, selling them to make a quick buck (as we have done many times in the past (e.g. Dixon and Bould)
Stoke currently have Begovich Huth and shawcross and you can build a succesful team around these three players if, you are wise enough to keep them
And, its no coincidence Ryan is now our club captain and still under 23 years old -with massive potential to be the very best centre half we will probably ever see
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Post by stanners on Aug 25, 2011 21:22:25 GMT
History shows us as well as any other team - you can build succesful teams around the likes of Ryan Shawcross rather than, selling them to make a quick buck (as we have done many times in the past (e.g. Dixon and Bould) Stoke currently have Begovich Huth and shawcross and you can build a succesful team around these three players if, you are wise enough to keep them And, its no coincidence Ryan is now our club captain and still under 23 years old -with massive potential to be the very best centre half we will probably ever see Agreed
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Post by oatcakesteve on Aug 25, 2011 21:34:36 GMT
We need to keep him, simple as that.
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Post by fentonstokie on Aug 25, 2011 21:34:39 GMT
He aint the best centre half at Stoke mate never mind the Premiership.
Huth and a fit Woodgate are better IMO
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Post by luke2u on Aug 25, 2011 21:35:45 GMT
Wouldn't mind keeping him for 10 more years.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2011 21:37:55 GMT
This just illustrates perfectly how people comment without reading stuff properly
did I ever say he was our best centre half ?
I said hes young - our captain and has massive potential
FFS !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2011 21:40:46 GMT
He aint the best centre half at Stoke mate never mind the Premiership. Huth and a fit Woodgate are better IMO A fully fit woodgate couldnt lace ryans boots! maybe 4 years ago at his peak and FIT but now not a chance even if he was 100% fit
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Post by fentonstokie on Aug 25, 2011 21:41:20 GMT
This just illustrates perfectly how people comment without reading stuff properly did I ever say he was our best centre half ? I said hes young - our captain and has massive potential FFS ! I was aimin my comment at the first poster
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 25, 2011 21:42:03 GMT
Pulis will rotate the rest of the defence and move Huth to right back but Ryan is the rock at the back!!
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Post by rigsby on Aug 25, 2011 21:42:44 GMT
Wouldn't mind keeping him for 10 more years. Same here mate, he's now a Stokie as far as i'm concerned. We raised him from an egg To be honest i was kind of shocked that Sir Alex of Ferguson actually sold him to us, i thought he'd want to keep him after a loan spell with us y'know. But what an absolutely amazing buy that has been. What was it £1m rising to £2m if we were promoted or summat? Mint!
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Post by lstokie on Aug 25, 2011 21:44:41 GMT
This just illustrates perfectly how people comment without reading stuff properly did I ever say he was our best centre half ? I said hes young - our captain and has massive potential FFS ! I think you need to read the OP, it was him that said he was. Illustration complete.
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Post by fentonstokie on Aug 25, 2011 21:44:52 GMT
Pulis will rotate the rest of the defence and move Huth to right back but Ryan is the rock at the back!! Correct cause Huth is the better player and can do a job there. Shawcross wont get dropped cause TP made him captain but we ALL now when fit our best back 4 is Wliko Huth Woodgate Wilson
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Post by rigsby on Aug 25, 2011 21:46:54 GMT
Pulis will rotate the rest of the defence and move Huth to right back but Ryan is the rock at the back!! Correct cause Huth is the better player and can do a job there. Shawcross wont get dropped cause TP made him captain but we ALL now when fit our best back 4 is Wliko Huth Woodgate Wilson Ooof i don't know about that at all, i'd never leave Shawcross out, he's my first name on the team sheet personally.
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Post by Beloved Monkfish on Aug 25, 2011 22:05:39 GMT
Would you honestly swap Shawcross for Terry, Vermaelan, Ferdinand or Alex? You want to stop reading the Sun and watch a few Stoke games. Oh dear. Shawcross is a very good defender I'm not denying that but to suggest that he's a better player than some who've excelled in The Champions League and often in international football is daft. I don't need to justify myself but I've got a season ticket and see enough of Ryan Shawcross thankyou very much to make my judgement.
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 25, 2011 22:12:43 GMT
Would you honestly swap Shawcross for Terry, Vermaelan, Ferdinand or Alex? You want to stop reading the Sun and watch a few Stoke games. Oh dear. Shawcross is a very good defender I'm not denying that but to suggest that he's a better player than some who've excelled in The Champions League and often in international football is daft. I don't need to justify myself but I've got a season ticket and see enough of Ryan Shawcross thankyou very much to make my judgement. I'm talking about current form, not what players have done in the past or who they play for for now. Shawcross is currently a better centre half than the players you have mentioned.
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Post by Trouserdog on Aug 25, 2011 22:21:11 GMT
Pulis will rotate the rest of the defence and move Huth to right back but Ryan is the rock at the back!! Correct cause Huth is the better player and can do a job there. Shawcross wont get dropped cause TP made him captain but ITS ONLY ME THAT THINKS when fit our best back 4 is Wliko Huth Woodgate Wilson
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Post by slopeofmisfortune on Aug 25, 2011 22:28:56 GMT
I'd take Ryan over Woodgate every day of the week. No contest on form and appearances
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Post by slopeofmisfortune on Aug 25, 2011 22:31:59 GMT
I'd take Ryan over Woodgate every day of the week. No contest on form and appearances
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Post by Beloved Monkfish on Aug 25, 2011 22:50:14 GMT
You can say that again....
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