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Post by GrandStokie on Apr 11, 2008 15:55:20 GMT
extravagant will be the least of Tonys problems if we dont make the promise land and Gally will be laughing his arse off
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Apr 11, 2008 16:02:00 GMT
It's so easy to hate Pulis. The reason Gally hasn't done well this time is because Pulis is a shit manager and a shit coach. Simple. He is the most odious person in football. Pisser! ;D |
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Post by sirpineapple89 on Apr 11, 2008 16:10:25 GMT
Despite not being the best manager in the world at least Boskamp (sorry to refer back to him) had the bottle to drop somebody if they weren't performing. I'm sure Gallagher was probably dropped after under-performing whilst Bossie was manager and somebody else was given a chance. Players can accept that, when they don't play well, they get dropped.
What they can't accept is not been given a chance when players playing in the same position are continually rubbish but are still selected to start each match although he shouldn't have stormed off like a bitch. Although, in my opinion a player has the right to question the manager on things like this, though it should be done in private and out of the spotlight.
I find it staggering, that, given our current form a player of Gallagher's undoubted quality can't even get in the first team, let alone the squad. I know there's rules with loan players but there's no question in my mind that he should be in the starting line up.
I expect the Gallagher was thinking it'd be the same kind of regime under Pulis that it was under Boskamp. Unfortunately, we have a pig-headed manager who refuses to admit to his own mistakes and won't drop anybody who is a recognised 'Pulis signing'.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Apr 11, 2008 16:11:03 GMT
The club was going nowhere!! and there are good players at the club now!! Cheap shot at Boskamp or what!! suppose one of the players hes calling crap is Hoefkens More than that it just sets Pulis up for a laughing stock. Perhaps he thinks we have forgotten that this is the side that he proclaimed (from Plymouth) were such certs for at least play-offs that supporters should be up in arms if anything less was achieved. You have to be clever to be a good lying cunt. Remembering your stories is a starter. Tony just keeps on proving he is only a lying cunt. |
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Post by sportsman on Apr 11, 2008 16:14:10 GMT
Bottom line is, if Stoke hadn't had this indifferent run of late, no one would give a flying about Gallagher. Until today i haven't seen a thread demanding we play Gallagher. Nobody had him in their starting eleven, in fact he has got nothing but slated for not showing enough when he has appeared briefly.
This to me is just more frustration built up over the last few games. Like i said, until today i haven't seen anything from you lot demanding he SHOULD be playing.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 11, 2008 16:22:11 GMT
None of the PHW's give a flying fuck about Gallagher, it's just another boot to kick Pulis with. And now their hero Boskamp has been besmirched, the usual suspects have all very predictably become 'outraged of tonbridge wells'.
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Post by CrazyPotter on Apr 11, 2008 16:23:21 GMT
Porkface or Gally. Hmmm let me think eh Tone!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 11, 2008 16:25:53 GMT
It's about more than Gallagher though. It brings a bad aura around the club and Pulis playing his favourites is fucking up our promotion bid. See Griffin, Pugh, Cresswell, Mama. It's a much bigger problem than Gally.
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Post by sirpineapple89 on Apr 11, 2008 16:30:03 GMT
'IF' we weren't on a bad run, 'if'. The fact of the matter is that we are on a bad run and welook like messing up our season because Pulis chooses to continually pick his favourites no matter how badly they play.
The better managers admit to their mistakes and look for a plan B. Pulis doesn't. He's got his favourites and doesn't have a plan B.
Gallagher is most probably pissed off because he can't even get into a seriously faltering squad. I don't think he could argue if we were bang on form and winning comfortably, he'd have to accept he needs to earn a place. But, we're not, we're in shite form and he can't get in the squad ahead of under-performers like Griffin, Cort, Pugh and Cresswell. I'd be pissed off too.
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Post by iwwwsatv on Apr 11, 2008 16:48:13 GMT
What an absolute waste of money !!! No im not talking about the players ability, but the fact that the club took him on loan, must be paying a substancial chunk of his wages, and never saw him fitting in.
All supporters should be chomping at the bit, your good earned money, with which you buy your tickets, has been blown away (might as well be pissed up against the wall)
If that happened where I work, I would not in a job now.
What a wasted loan signing....
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 11, 2008 16:52:37 GMT
iww
couldn't agree more
we've probably spunked about £100,000 + on Gally
what a criminal waste
Pulis.......like my arse
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2008 16:52:43 GMT
Gally was out of order with his behaviour despite his understandable frustration with the situation he found himself in.
Pulis though should have kept his mouth firmly shut and dealt with it behind closed doors. He just can't help it though can he? He has to open his trap and show the petty side of his character, I think perhaps he just loves giving fans ammunition to throw at him, he must be as thick skinned as a rhino.
I'll always want the best for Stoke City but try as I might I just don't like the man or his medieval style of football.
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Post by sportsman on Apr 11, 2008 17:35:13 GMT
Parkin or Gallagher? Why where's Parkin?
Think Carlo Nash has indicated something on Radio Stoke today. 'It's a time for all the players to stick together when there is adversity. Not just the first 11 but ALL of the the squad'.
Reckon he's making reference to Gallagher there!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 11, 2008 17:43:30 GMT
Again Nash is right. But he's put it in a nice diplomatic way.
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Post by headsgoup on Apr 11, 2008 17:51:02 GMT
This thread has certainly brought out the lamebrains.
If someone would have said at the start of the season we'd be 3rd with an excellent chance of going up most would've laughed.
What I've seen of Gallagher is a player of league one talent. He was bound to be a 'star' player in Boskamp's teams because we were fucking useless.
Come back in a few weeks time and eat humble pie like you've been doing most of the season.
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Post by smiler_andy on Apr 11, 2008 17:56:23 GMT
It is good to see that TP's man management and motivational skills are coming to the fore with only a few games left to clinch promotion  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 11, 2008 17:57:58 GMT
This thread has certainly brought out the lamebrains. If someone would have said at the start of the season we'd be 3rd with an excellent chance of going up most would've laughed. What I've seen of Gallagher is a player of league one talent. He was bound to be a 'star' player in Boskamp's teams because we were fucking useless. Come back in a few weeks time and eat humble pie like you've been doing most of the season. So it's a good thing to air Your dirty linen in public then?  |
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Post by MrMagic on Apr 11, 2008 18:03:09 GMT
This thread has certainly brought out the lamebrains. If someone would have said at the start of the season we'd be 3rd with an excellent chance of going up most would've laughed. What I've seen of Gallagher is a player of league one talent. He was bound to be a 'star' player in Boskamp's teams because we were fucking useless. Come back in a few weeks time and eat humble pie like you've been doing most of the season. It all depends how you dress it up doesn't it. If someone had said that we'd be top of the table and then go on a 1 in 8 run, play players who are underperforming, and blow 600k on a loan striker and play him next to mama whilst Fuller collected arsesplinters, most people would have been a bit pissed off. Lets see what happens with the humble pie. |
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Post by headsgoup on Apr 11, 2008 18:04:13 GMT
This thread has certainly brought out the lamebrains. If someone would have said at the start of the season we'd be 3rd with an excellent chance of going up most would've laughed. What I've seen of Gallagher is a player of league one talent. He was bound to be a 'star' player in Boskamp's teams because we were fucking useless. Come back in a few weeks time and eat humble pie like you've been doing most of the season. So it's a good thing to air Your dirty linen in public then? What dirty linin's that then? Storming off the training field in a paddy. The guys being paid good money to work. He had no part in getting Stoke where they are. You seem to be doing enough airing a lot of dirty linin in public. Call yourself a supporter. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 11, 2008 18:08:26 GMT
I've had a go at Gally and TP rightly should do as well. But not in the public domain. Why You ask. It shows that we are weak, have a poor team spirit and quite frankly are shitting it. If You can't see that we have been playing wank for the past 2 months and that team selection is poor You must have Your head in the sand. Gally was wrong in the first place but then TP pulled off this masterstroke. There was no need. It's shite PR.
And yes I call myself a supporter as I don't lick arse just because it's TP or Boskamp. Both in my eyes are wank managers. I just think TP currently is bottling it and hasn't got a clue what to do about it.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 11, 2008 18:14:35 GMT
He is totally out of order how he has publicly slagged off a player like that, especially a loan player.
The guy's got no class ....
he makes a fookin big rod for his own back sometimes
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Post by sportsman on Apr 11, 2008 18:19:18 GMT
Why especially a loan player? Would of thought it's worse to be critical of a player tied into the club for four years?
Maybe TP is as pissed off about Gallagher or lack of Gallagher as we are. Maybe he's upset people in the background, as Nash has pointed out, in a round about way)
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 11, 2008 18:29:43 GMT
It's like a code of conduct
There was a feature on the sky sports not so long ago about the amount of loans going on at the moment, making a mockery of the system and all that etc....
one of the things that they spoke about was the difficulty in handling a player who effectively didn't belong to you and how they had to be very careful with the Prem type loans. They mentioned that there is a set of unwritten rules about the situation and assurances that the loaner insisted upon.
One thing you can be sure of, it will be a long time before Hughes does any loan business with TP again.
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Post by Championship Potter on Apr 11, 2008 18:40:15 GMT
Despite not being the best manager in the world at least Boskamp (sorry to refer back to him) had the bottle to drop somebody if they weren't performing. Was this the same Boskamp that played Broomes and Buxton all season while we had Wilkinson and Dickinson in the reserves? Let's not forget he started Dave Brammer for every match of the season too. ;D |
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Post by sportsman on Apr 11, 2008 18:47:06 GMT
Well archiesdad, i won't sleep tonight knowing that Hughes won't do business with Tone for a while!
Judging by how much Tone has praised Hughes whenever possible about every managers job comes up, i'm sure if need be it won't be too long. Have a feeling they get on better than what you think.
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Post by Davef on Apr 11, 2008 19:53:16 GMT
Was this the same Boskamp that played Broomes and Buxton all season while we had Wilkinson and Dickinson in the reserves? Let's not forget he started Dave Brammer for every match of the season too. ;D Just remind me again, who signed Dave Brammer, and started with him in virtually every match the season before? |
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 11, 2008 20:40:22 GMT
I think Gallagher was signed primarily as cover for Fuller and his first opportunity to perform in this role was Wolves where he was pretty crap. Fuller won us that game.
He came on against QPR and he was pretty impressive as the game died to nothing. I think he played somewhere in midfield and pretty much went where he went, he was pretty busy and sprayed the ball around. The game was pretty much over and QPR had stepped off the gas, but he looked bright.
We then brought in Bothroyd, Ameobi and Pearson. Pearson seems to me a better player than Gallagher and Bothroyd also seems employed to be played out wide. Given that we're pretty much obliged to play Ameobi given his wages, we won't be daft enough to drop Fuller again, we've got a better left winger and 3 other players in back up for both positions (I'm assuming from the squad numbers that Pulis was toying with the idea of Sidibe on the wings and Cresswell up front), it's hard to see where Gallagher would now fit in.
At the time of his signing, however, we had none of this. I think he was a 'just in case' signing. Just in case Fuller got injured/suspended, just in case we got nobody else.
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Post by growler on Apr 11, 2008 21:06:51 GMT
I have tried so hard to come to terms with Pulis but this has taken me right back to square one. Sheikh's attempts to deflect the blame onto Gallagher is a hopeless irrelevance, the comments were disgraceful and a slur on my football club regardless of who they were aimed at.
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Post by jarhead on Apr 11, 2008 21:16:34 GMT
Classic Pulis at his very best slagging off a talented player who he gave no chance to be ANOTHER success for this club because he is a petty weak coward of a so called manager who continues with players in poor form or just wank in Sidibes case and the past two months results prove this.
So what does he do to change it? Actually pick and even worse side v Palace which we lost and the twat got what he deserved.
This is the time where great managers earn there corn and become real winners not in the middle of a season when no prizes are handed out but in this last 5 weeks and yet again he is bottling it and fucking up another season wasting even MORE OF UNCLE PETERS MONEY...But then he has a pop at the fans and players who are 10 times a man he is because he knows the game is up so its our fault.
Hope to fuck he proves me wrong....but just look at the spin coming out and the cunt really is a two faced liar who spouts crap like 'we all have to remember we were a nothing outfit going into admin before he came back and should be priviliged to be playing blackpool,hull,scunny etc etc but said back then that boskamps team should of got in the play offs ffs!!! Make your mind up you dumb ass prick.
Some rimming pricks on here forget whats gone before and what he has said but many don't and you then become more of a laughing stock you patronising twat....NOW FUCK OFF!
The bloke is a cuntrag
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Post by Championship Potter on Apr 11, 2008 21:18:30 GMT
Was this the same Boskamp that played Broomes and Buxton all season while we had Wilkinson and Dickinson in the reserves? Let's not forget he started Dave Brammer for every match of the season too. ;D Just remind me again, who signed Dave Brammer, and started with him in virtually every match the season before? I'm not claiming Pulis is some kind of tactical genius, he does make some questionable decisions, but Boskamp's season was far worse in terms of team selection. I'm amazed how Pulis can get slated for saying "He hasn't done as well as the other players", which is hardly a public slating and probably a fair comment. Pearson, Lawrence and Bothroyd should all be played ahead of him on the wing and Fuller, Ameobi, Sidibe and Cresswell are all preferable to him up front. The comment about the club "going nowhere" was a bit unnecessary but realistically if the Icelanders had stayed we would have been stuck with a team with the likes of Broomes, Kopteff and Siggurdson etc. |
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