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Post by drfootball on Feb 5, 2011 13:43:00 GMT
The tv pundits are saying that Carew`s goal is offside because because he`s behind the goal keeper.Ferdinand is on the goal line.At the risk of ridicule,how can he be offside if the last defender is on the line!
Female officials welcome ;D
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Post by shiny nosehair on Feb 5, 2011 13:45:26 GMT
must be 2 players between attacker and goal line
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Post by shiny nosehair on Feb 5, 2011 13:46:11 GMT
i.e. it's normally the keeper and a last defender but the keeper had come out past Carew
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Feb 5, 2011 13:46:55 GMT
A player is in an offside position if:
he is nearer to his opponents' goal line than both the ball and the second last opponent
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Post by drfootball on Feb 5, 2011 13:47:55 GMT
must be 2 players between attacker and goal line You sure that`s the current rule? We seem to have conceded plenty without 2 behind the last attacker. |
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Post by YarnfieldStokie on Feb 5, 2011 13:49:12 GMT
The more I see it the more I reckon it came off Gordon's glove anyway
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Post by Mason_Stokie on Feb 5, 2011 13:51:02 GMT
The more I see it the more I reckon it came off Gordon's glove anyway agreed |
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Post by hammerinpeace on Feb 5, 2011 13:58:01 GMT
haha. What a complete helmet. Is that the current rule........ ;D
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Post by drfootball on Feb 5, 2011 14:00:57 GMT
haha. What a complete helmet. Is that the current rule........ ;D The offside rule changes regularly,maybe you should look it up if you can tear youself away from your jazzmags. |
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Post by shiny nosehair on Feb 5, 2011 14:03:46 GMT
Doctor, one thing that has never changed since the offside rule was established is that there must be 2 defending player between the attacker receiving the ball and the goal line
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Post by drfootball on Feb 5, 2011 14:08:26 GMT
Doctor, one thing that has never changed since the offside rule was established is that there must be 2 defending player between the attacker receiving the ball and the goal line Yes,perhaps `changes `is strong,but the tweaking of the rules regarding active and passive positioning of players,players interferring or seeking to interfere with play and sundry other things regarding the rule are introduced regularly. |
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 5, 2011 15:01:40 GMT
Doctor, one thing that has never changed since the offside rule was established is that there must be 2 defending player between the attacker receiving the ball and the goal line Well, it has actually. Level used to be off, whereas it's on now. Carew would have been offside 'cos the last defender was behind the goal line, but it came off Gordon's glove anyway so it's academic.  |
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Post by oldpotter on Feb 5, 2011 15:06:33 GMT
I can't contain myself any longer, Ha Ha, bad luck SUNDERLAND.
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Post by Mama's Mama on Feb 5, 2011 16:09:51 GMT
Doctor, one thing that has never changed since the offside rule was established is that there must be 2 defending player between the attacker receiving the ball and the goal line Well, it has actually. Level used to be off, whereas it's on now. Carew would have been offside 'cos the last defender was behind the goal line, but it came off Gordon's glove anyway so it's academic. Level has never ever been offside. And it does not matter if it came off Gordon's glove or not. He was offside. But it is about time we had some luck! |
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Post by LH_SCFC on Feb 5, 2011 16:12:26 GMT
The tv pundits are saying that Carew`s goal is offside because because he`s behind the goal keeper.Ferdinand is on the goal line.At the risk of ridicule,how can he be offside if the last defender is on the line! Female officials welcome ;D Fan-fuckin-tastic! I suppose you'll be telling us you can be offside from a goal kick next and asking why Jagielka's was an OG... Oh wait. |
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Post by thepig on Feb 5, 2011 16:13:42 GMT
It's staggering the amount of people who don't know this rule.
Not Stoke's fault though, just an inept linesman.
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Post by Beardy200 on Feb 5, 2011 16:16:36 GMT
Well, it has actually. Level used to be off, whereas it's on now. Carew would have been offside 'cos the last defender was behind the goal line, but it came off Gordon's glove anyway so it's academic. Level has never ever been offside. And it does not matter if it came off Gordon's glove or not. He was offside. But it is about time we had some luck! Are you going to carry on making stupid comments all night? Of course it matters if it came off Gordon's glove. You can stand on the goal line and be 50 yards offside if you like but if the opposition pass you the ball you can knock it in and the goal will stand. To the OP there needs to be two oppostion players between you and the goal but usually one of them is the goalkeeper. This last defender nonsense is just that. Of course if the pass is backwards or you are behind the ball when it's passed then you can't be offside no matter where the defenders are. First phase, second phase and interfering with play is open for debate but these are simple rules that have always been the same and it amazes me how many people don't know them. For me the ball came off Gordon's glove which meant Carew was initially onside but it did then touch Shawcross on the way through which means Carew was actually offside. Do any of us really care after the Cattermole incident? Do we fuck.  |
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Post by Mama's Mama on Feb 5, 2011 16:18:03 GMT
You are wrong! It does not matter if it comes off an opposition player - you have gained an advantage by standing in an offisde position!
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Post by Beardy200 on Feb 5, 2011 16:19:18 GMT
You are wrong! It does not matter if it comes off an opposition player - you have gained an advantage by standing in an offisde position! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Mama's Mama on Feb 5, 2011 16:19:27 GMT
Ok you find me in the Laws where it states a player isn't offside if it comes off an opposition player.
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Post by interestedobserver on Feb 5, 2011 16:21:51 GMT
For me, that goal is a prime example of why offside within six yards of the endline is absolutely stupid. If FIFA ever again changes the offside rule, I hope they include a change that no player can be offside from a ball played from within six yards of the endline.
He was in an offside position and from the replays I saw it appeared to come off Huth's head. But why reward the keeper for coming out and failing to get to the ball. Surely he wasn't running out to play an offside trap.
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Post by Beardy200 on Feb 5, 2011 16:25:20 GMT
Ok you find me in the Laws where it states a player isn't offside if it comes off an opposition player. If an attacking player plays it forwards and it deflects off a defender then yes he is still offside but if an attacking player is in an offside position and a defender just decides to knock it to him (like Gordon did) then he can score and the goal will count. Offside is based on a forward pass from your own team not when the opposition give it to you. I don't need to go searching through an F.A. rulebook for that. I've been playing and watching football for donkey's years and if the opposition decide to pass it to you in an offside position you will NEVER be given offside unless YOU are reffing. ;D |
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Post by interestedobserver on Feb 5, 2011 16:28:44 GMT
Ok you find me in the Laws where it states a player isn't offside if it comes off an opposition player. If an attacking player plays it forwards and it deflects off a defender then yes he is still offside but if an attacking player is in an offside position and a defender just decides to knock it to him (like Gordon did) then he can score and the goal will count. Offside is based on a forward pass from your own team not when the opposition give it to you. I don't need to go searching through an F.A. rulebook for that. I've been playing and watching football for donkey's years and if the opposition decide to pass it to you in an offside position you will NEVER be given offside unless YOU are reffing. ;D To add on, I was at one point a certified official and this is one rule I clearly remember, If a player playis a back pass with control to an attacking player in an offside position, offside is NOT given. It only stand to reason too, since such back passes would be a major time wasting weapon for teams with the lead. |
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Post by Mama's Mama on Feb 5, 2011 16:29:32 GMT
You are still wrong - please do look on the FA website and find me where it says the exceptions to the offside rule ( from a goalkick, throw in, etc ) I have been refereeing for 5 years and now at Level 5 I'd like to think I know the rules!?
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Post by shep207 on Feb 5, 2011 16:30:09 GMT
Ok you find me in the Laws where it states a player isn't offside if it comes off an opposition player. Are you serious? I can't work out if you're taking the piss or not.. |
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Post by interestedobserver on Feb 5, 2011 16:32:11 GMT
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Post by Mama's Mama on Feb 5, 2011 16:34:52 GMT
Yes...?
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Post by interestedobserver on Feb 5, 2011 16:35:33 GMT
Yes
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Post by Mama's Mama on Feb 5, 2011 16:36:09 GMT
Look at page 13!!!!!!!
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Post by shep207 on Feb 5, 2011 16:37:16 GMT
Seriously mate, you're either taking the piss or a shit ref..
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