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Post by albanianstokie on Feb 1, 2011 9:33:22 GMT
Shit window
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Post by bgpotter on Feb 1, 2011 9:48:14 GMT
DAVE
We never ever take players from abroad - PULIS will NEVER EVER do this.
We are limiting our potential signings to this club and so slowing any progress we could make.
WE KNOW THIS IS PULIS'S "FAULT" or failing.
HOW are the club going to sort this problem?
Personally I think that Pulis has taken us as far as he can - dont get me wrong, hes taken us a bloody long way and we shall always be thankful, but if he doesnt evolve then the club wont.
Possibly time for a change for next season?
Your comments dave????????
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Post by MrMagic on Feb 1, 2011 9:50:41 GMT
There's a lot of rubbish being posted on here by the usual re-writers of history. Some of you would have done well in Stalinist Russia. So let's look at some of the claims.
1) we've got rid of Tunny and EG who were high earning bit part players so it's a good window. Even if you don't rate tunny, his recent contribution given a few games must have shown his value as a player who could offer something different. If we'd replaced him then fine but to let him go without replacing him is daft. Also do you think Carew is playing for free?????
2) we have not weakened the team. How does this work? A team is made up of various parts. Carew may be a good target man, but target men are not in short order at Stoke. Players who can offer something different are.
3) we were right not to pay stupid money. Lots of players better than ours have moved for reasonable money. Stoke have appeared to develop a position where we want to bring in proven players but don't want to pay for them, and don't have the capability to identify overseas talent. Fuck knows how. My 6 year old knows that micael Bradley and muntari are both far better than any of our midfield.
Finally. If Pulis cannot identify a left back better than collins then he doesn't deserve his wages. There is no excuse for this.
But. Let's see how we go on. I think it'll be grim for the rest of the season but hopefully I'm wrong.
Still a shit window however you dress it up!
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Post by huuuuuth on Feb 1, 2011 9:54:54 GMT
I think that for the sake of their own sanity, the people otherwise known as 'davesviews' (there's more than one who posts, isn't there?) are probably best off not posting again. I've always enjoyed the snippets and not knowing if they're bullshit or true as far as they believe. The trouble is, there are way too many fucktards on this board now who hang on 'dave's' every word, believing it to be gospel then go all Veruca Salt when things don't happen.
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Post by bgpotter on Feb 1, 2011 9:59:53 GMT
I cant get over how many midfielders have moved (loan or permanent)this january and we havent been in for any of them (at least our name hasnt been linked to them in any press/tv or ITK's). I could even forgive this if we had signed a left back. If Pulis cant find a better Left Back than Collins or Higgy in the whole of UK/Europe that wants wages that we can afford then he should look for other employment, together with anyone to do with organising our scouting system!!! (which seems non existent).
Do we identify foreign players and Pulis just ignores them(as usual) or dont we bother identifying any now because we KNOW Pulis will igore them (so why bother identifying them in the first place)!!!! It would be good to know which is the case!
Either way Pulis HAS to change or it will soon get to a time where we have to change him! Rant over!
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Post by stokeykez on Feb 1, 2011 11:00:41 GMT
Tell me how us paying 40k eidur wages is good business, fulham pay 10k, ffs no wonder we struggle in deals !!
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Feb 1, 2011 11:01:01 GMT
The worrying thing is not the fact we didnt sign anyone but that most of our rivals round and below us have. We are not safe by any stretch and i can see those teams picking points up now that prior to strengthening in this window they may not have. I see a very difficult bum shrinking second half to the season.
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Post by ravonrazor on Feb 1, 2011 11:32:36 GMT
why didnt we take up our last loan spot for a cm of fb
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Post by stokeykez on Feb 1, 2011 11:39:18 GMT
So are we gonna put florent cuveliar into our 25 now, not on your nelly, one for the future but these starlings must be tested, why not put him in the cup run, tp needs to learn to have faith , if it didn't work then you sub them off but I doubt any would slate the manager for having the balls to make a change.
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Post by apb1979 on Feb 1, 2011 11:47:37 GMT
Sorry about the lack of new signings,the club did try to bring players in,could not agree terms with a couple,a few others did not want to come to stoke City. Dave to get a bit of your credibility back name the players
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Post by liathroid on Feb 1, 2011 11:51:07 GMT
Tell me how us paying 40k eidur wages is good business, fulham pay 10k, ffs no wonder we struggle in deals !! where did this come from ???
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Post by likelyladgalizmo on Feb 1, 2011 12:02:56 GMT
10k. If thats right Stoke are mugging them selves. Can see Eidur scoring bags of goals for them and we cant call him back either i bet.
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Post by gaznandi on Feb 1, 2011 12:09:14 GMT
Tell me how us paying 40k eidur wages is good business, fulham pay 10k, ffs no wonder we struggle in deals !! where did this come from ??? Must be from some rag or other judging by this: EIDUR GUDJOHNSEN has ended his Stoke nightmare by joining Fulham on loan. The Icelandic striker, 32, signed last night on a deal until the end of the season. Fulham will pay £10,000-a-week in wages, with Stoke picking up the rest of his £40,000-a-week salary. Gudjohnsen did not start a single game for Stoke after signing for them last summer from Monaco. Craven Cottage boss Mark Hughes has let USA striker Eddie Johnson join Preston until the end of the season. but then there's this: Also departing last night was Eidur Gudjohnsen after Fulham offered to take over the remaining five months of the Icelander’s contract
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Post by liathroid on Feb 1, 2011 12:10:09 GMT
Tell me how us paying 40k eidur wages is good business, fulham pay 10k, ffs no wonder we struggle in deals !! where did this come from ??? cant believe this
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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 1, 2011 12:30:08 GMT
There's a lot of rubbish being posted on here by the usual re-writers of history. Some of you would have done well in Stalinist Russia. So let's look at some of the claims. 1) we've got rid of Tunny and EG who were high earning bit part players so it's a good window. Even if you don't rate tunny, his recent contribution given a few games must have shown his value as a player who could offer something different. If we'd replaced him then fine but to let him go without replacing him is daft. Also do you think Carew is playing for free????? 2) we have not weakened the team. How does this work? A team is made up of various parts. Carew may be a good target man, but target men are not in short order at Stoke. Players who can offer something different are. 3) we were right not to pay stupid money. Lots of players better than ours have moved for reasonable money. Stoke have appeared to develop a position where we want to bring in proven players but don't want to pay for them, and don't have the capability to identify overseas talent. Fuck knows how. My 6 year old knows that micael Bradley and muntari are both far better than any of our midfield. Finally. If Pulis cannot identify a left back better than collins then he doesn't deserve his wages. There is no excuse for this. But. Let's see how we go on. I think it'll be grim for the rest of the season but hopefully I'm wrong. Still a shit window however you dress it up! Correct.
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Post by Stoke_FaN_DaN on Feb 1, 2011 12:57:12 GMT
Hope everyone realises now davesviews ISNT "in the know" anymore and is actually full of sh*t. i've got more conections in my plug socket than he has stoke. very true m8 hes been hyping people up for last 2 weeks hes not reliable , he was wrong on everything he said, im shaw he made it all up lmfao everyone says were dave wait for dave hahahha fucking mugs lol u can talk your the 1 who said SWP would be coming im still waiting on an explanation
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Post by stokeykez on Feb 1, 2011 13:02:58 GMT
What worries me the most about the summer window is that we really are gonna have to be on our toes and look early, I feel that we are gonna have a real fight on our hands aswell to keep huth, bego, matty and bego. Yes we have a wage structure but if a big offer come in for one of these we are gonna have to break that structure to replAce with quality.
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Post by stokeykez on Feb 1, 2011 13:08:59 GMT
Chris riggot has contract terminated with Cardiff, surely he is good to have as cover, and can't we sign out of contract players.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Feb 1, 2011 13:23:41 GMT
Im still shocked and angry that we didnt even attempt to make a move for Jamie O'Hara. He went to fucking Wolves.
FFS Pulis.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2011 13:43:17 GMT
There's a lot of rubbish being posted on here by the usual re-writers of history. Some of you would have done well in Stalinist Russia. So let's look at some of the claims. 1) we've got rid of Tunny and EG who were high earning bit part players so it's a good window. Even if you don't rate tunny, his recent contribution given a few games must have shown his value as a player who could offer something different. If we'd replaced him then fine but to let him go without replacing him is daft. Also do you think Carew is playing for free????? 2) we have not weakened the team. How does this work? A team is made up of various parts. Carew may be a good target man, but target men are not in short order at Stoke. Players who can offer something different are. 3) we were right not to pay stupid money. Lots of players better than ours have moved for reasonable money. Stoke have appeared to develop a position where we want to bring in proven players but don't want to pay for them, and don't have the capability to identify overseas talent. Fuck knows how. My 6 year old knows that micael Bradley and muntari are both far better than any of our midfield. Finally. If Pulis cannot identify a left back better than collins then he doesn't deserve his wages. There is no excuse for this. But. Let's see how we go on. I think it'll be grim for the rest of the season but hopefully I'm wrong. Still a shit window however you dress it up! Some of your points i would take issue with. 1. He was an expensive bit-part player. If we had Messi on the books and we weren't playing him, he would have been an expensive bit-part player. It doesn't matter whether you or I think he deserved a place in the team, he wasn't getting a place in the team and so bottom line, we lost a bit-part player. Can't help thinking that both the manager and the player are now far happier. 2. We have not got a weakened team. We have lost a player who hardly featured and gained one who will feature more. Carew certainly has a better goal scoring record over the years. Otherwise, EG did not feature at all - he was just ballast. I could accept that some of the teams around us are now stronger, but we are not weaker. 3. The money thing is much more relevant than you think. I suspect some clubs will be going into administration at (or towards) the end of the season. We won't be one of them. The there is FIFA's rules on solvency looming. It all points to lower wages in a season or two. Increasingly, clubs will have to dump players onto the market to clear the overhead from their books - probably free agents at the end of their contracts. In general the window was frustrating and I think the club probably found it like that too. But, in some ways it makes sense. A good number of the players traded this window were panic buys and will be available for much less in Summer and will probably have to take a pay hit or otherwise play Championship football. We will survive this season and I suspect we will be doing more significant business next window.
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Post by cookymonster on Feb 1, 2011 13:46:21 GMT
Im still shocked and angry that we didnt even attempt to make a move for Jamie O'Hara. He went to fucking Wolves. FFS Pulis. When they get relegated we can buy him in the summer
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Post by luke2u on Feb 1, 2011 13:54:19 GMT
It's not just Dave, but the club has to come out and say something about what happen, or more correct, didn't happen in this window.
When they put on their official site that will be a busy week, and we don't get anything, then I think they owe their fans some explaining.
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Post by monkeycat on Feb 1, 2011 14:24:53 GMT
I expected very little yesterday, and got it. What I do find worrying is that the club seem to be of the opinion that moving the club forward involves getting rid of Tuncay (our only forward who has been in any sort of form recently) and having Jones and Carew up front. On top of that, playing those two without playing two wingers.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2011 14:31:38 GMT
May have already been answered, but does anyone know how much we got for tunc in the end?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 1, 2011 14:31:48 GMT
Oh....and Davesviews was a bit of a let down, not because he didn't have any information but, because he said he had, got us all rather excited and then pissed on our bonfire. In what way? ;D Palacios and Jerome turned us down according to Shrinkie who knows his onions. Being the cynical twat I am, I would say it's another systematic failure of the way we conduct transfers.
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Feb 1, 2011 14:35:55 GMT
Yeah...Let's name the players and fuck up any pottential deals in the summer - Great Idea
You can't blame Dave, he just told us about players we are/were interested in...If the deals don't come off it's not Daves fault.
Players hate moving in January, clubs hate buying/selling in January.... In January everything comes inflated (Yesterday proved that) The deals will happen in the summer! I think we were a bit Niave to think we could do the kinda of buissiness we wanted to do in January...Palacios, Rodders, Jenas etc - Realisticaly the selling clubs were never going to let them go, especially on the cheap
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Post by monkeycat on Feb 1, 2011 14:43:19 GMT
May have already been answered, but does anyone know how much we got for tunc in the end? 5.2M Euros which I think is about £4M
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2011 14:55:11 GMT
May have already been answered, but does anyone know how much we got for tunc in the end? 5.2M Euros which I think is about £4M Try to convert it yesterday and it came out at £4.45 million
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Post by monkeycat on Feb 1, 2011 14:59:37 GMT
The annoying thing is that TP only picked Tuncay lately in order to boost his price a little.
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Post by serpico on Feb 1, 2011 15:05:39 GMT
I expected very little yesterday, and got it. What I do find worrying is that the club seem to be of the opinion that moving the club forward involves getting rid of Tuncay (our only forward who has been in any sort of form recently) and having Jones and Carew up front. On top of that, playing those two without playing two wingers. Agree, MC, getting rid of Tunny doesn't really indicate that TP is really interested in evolving. Tunny was not only technically a good player, but he also put himself about and worked as hard as any other player, and it's ironic that we sell him just as he's starting to look the part TP stubbornness and unwillingness to change is frustrating, but it is probably also a large part of the reason we're in the premiership, most successful managers are single minded and stubborn, be it Mourinho or Ferguson.
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