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Post by bunnyscfc on Jan 15, 2011 18:08:50 GMT
from my seat it looked the clearest sending off you'll ever get.
Another d*** of a ref today.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 15, 2011 18:10:53 GMT
Nailed on red card.
Apparently it's not related to "the last man" anymore but to clear "goal scoring opportunities" so what the fuck did the ref think Matty was about to do?
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Post by andystokie321111 on Jan 15, 2011 18:11:09 GMT
disagree thought ref did well
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 15, 2011 18:16:11 GMT
I thought the clearest red card was the Davies elbow on Higgy, other than that I thought he was one of the better refs down here (I know that doesn't say much!!).
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Post by boothy on Jan 15, 2011 18:18:02 GMT
disagree thought ref did well He wasn't as terrible as some of the others we've seen this season but he was still pretty bad. It was a definite red card, he was in on goal ffs. |
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Post by bettsy on Jan 15, 2011 18:18:57 GMT
the ref was ok today but how he didn't send him off ill never know, however i don't give a fuck now cause we won 2 nil and it didn't affect the outcome of the game
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Post by boothenendboy on Jan 15, 2011 18:19:10 GMT
definite red
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Post by BoxxyTheLost on Jan 15, 2011 18:21:01 GMT
Don't think he was the last man, i'm sure there was another player covering.
Fucking stupid challenge by Knight, good decision by the ref.
He was a decent ref, got a few decisions wrong but in general did the sensible thing, kept his hands in his pockets most of the game and most importantly he listened to his linesman.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jan 15, 2011 18:23:37 GMT
i heard they are thinking about changing the rule about a red card if its in the area. Personally think a peno is enough punishment without being reduced to 10 men
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Post by bunnyscfc on Jan 15, 2011 18:23:58 GMT
noone was covering.
So a good ref is one who lets two red cards go. Thank f*** we didn't get a crap one, eh?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 15, 2011 18:24:25 GMT
Don't think he was the last man, i'm sure there was another player covering. Fucking stupid challenge by Knight, good decision by the ref. He was a decent ref, got a few decisions wrong but in general did the sensible thing, kept his hands in his pockets most of the game and most importantly he listened to his linesman. He doesn't need to be the last man, the rule states "goal scoring opportunity" which it clearly was. |
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Post by serpico on Jan 15, 2011 18:26:15 GMT
The tackle on Etherington by Ricketts was a good one, he clearly won the ball, watch it tonight.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Jan 15, 2011 18:27:59 GMT
won the ball, but I'd like to see what his other leg did.
He knew full well what he was doing. Cowards tackle.
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Post by Mama's Mama on Jan 15, 2011 18:28:55 GMT
i heard they are thinking about changing the rule about a red card if its in the area. Personally think a peno is enough punishment without being reduced to 10 men Where have you heard this? |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 15, 2011 18:30:18 GMT
Let's put it like this, does anyone believe that had a Stoke player made that challenge in the area it wouldn't have been a red?
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Post by BoxxyTheLost on Jan 15, 2011 18:33:11 GMT
Let's put it like this, does anyone believe that had a Stoke player made that challenge in the area it wouldn't have been a red? Yes actually. The ref today was fair to both sides (bar a little bit of Bolton falling over). I don't know anything about it being a goalscoring opportunity all I know is last man and I don't think (from what i remember) that he was. Some people have a complex about the ref and that they're always biased against us. |
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Post by LH_SCFC on Jan 15, 2011 18:33:51 GMT
Maybe the ref was the same guy claiming that Jagielka's wasn't an OG the other week.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 15, 2011 18:35:50 GMT
Let's put it like this, does anyone believe that had a Stoke player made that challenge in the area it wouldn't have been a red? Yes actually. The ref today was fair to both sides (bar a little bit of Bolton falling over). I don't know anything about it being a goalscoring opportunity all I know is last man and I don't think (from what i remember) that he was. Some people have a complex about the ref and that they're always biased against us. Like I say, the rule is "preventing a goalscoring opportunity" and Matty was 6 yards out and about to shoot. What would you call it? |
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Post by Chris1863 on Jan 15, 2011 18:38:33 GMT
maybe because matty come from wide when he was brought down,anyway a wins a win...
Europe awaits the MIGHTY POTTERS
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Post by BoxxyTheLost on Jan 15, 2011 18:38:36 GMT
Yes actually. The ref today was fair to both sides (bar a little bit of Bolton falling over). I don't know anything about it being a goalscoring opportunity all I know is last man and I don't think (from what i remember) that he was. Some people have a complex about the ref and that they're always biased against us. Like I say, the rule is "preventing a goalscoring opportunity" and Matty was 6 yards out and about to shoot. What would you call it? Fair enough. Although you could argue that he was coming in at a tight angle on his "wrong" wing, with a player covering (if there was). Goalscoring opportunity is a slightly subjective statement, a goal can be scored from anywhere in the half with enough luck so surely any foul should be a red card? |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 15, 2011 18:41:38 GMT
Like I say, the rule is "preventing a goalscoring opportunity" and Matty was 6 yards out and about to shoot. What would you call it? Fair enough. Although you could argue that he was coming in at a tight angle on his "wrong" wing, with a player covering (if there was). Goalscoring opportunity is a slightly subjective statement, a goal can be scored from anywhere in the half with enough luck so surely any foul should be a red card? Well that's the point, you can get sent off for fouling a player for the same reason 40 yards from goal which makes that challenge a nailed on red. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 15, 2011 18:43:16 GMT
The ref was average (which is actually quite good for premier league standards) but the lino on the Seddon stand side was a complete jellyfish. Got everything wrong (or simply missed it) both for and against us. Utter wank  |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 15, 2011 18:46:41 GMT
The ref was average (which is actually quite good for premier league standards) but the lino on the Seddon stand side was a complete jellyfish. Got everything wrong (or simply missed it) both for and against us. Utter wank Aye, that lino was shite mate. As you say the ref was pretty average which is high praise indeed given the crap we normally get. He did get the colour of the card wrong though. |
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Post by myatt on Jan 15, 2011 18:46:49 GMT
Like I say, the rule is "preventing a goalscoring opportunity" and Matty was 6 yards out and about to shoot. What would you call it? Fair enough. Although you could argue that he was coming in at a tight angle on his "wrong" wing, with a player covering (if there was). Goalscoring opportunity is a slightly subjective statement, a goal can be scored from anywhere in the half with enough luck so surely any foul should be a red card? Its not up to the ref to decide whether the player was likely to score or not because of which foot it is on etc. It was clearly a goalscoring chance. He was 12 yards from goal. |
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Post by tazi on Jan 15, 2011 18:51:16 GMT
The tackle on Etherington by Ricketts was a good one, he clearly won the ball, watch it tonight. I thought so too at that time.... |
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 15, 2011 18:53:07 GMT
Fair enough. Although you could argue that he was coming in at a tight angle on his "wrong" wing, with a player covering (if there was). Goalscoring opportunity is a slightly subjective statement, a goal can be scored from anywhere in the half with enough luck so surely any foul should be a red card? Its not up to the ref to decide whether the player was likely to score or not because of which foot it is on etc. It was clearly a goalscoring chance. He was 12 yards from goal. He was 12 yards from goal when he took the penalty and nearly stuffed that up ;D |
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Post by Stokie_in_the_stix on Jan 15, 2011 18:53:33 GMT
should have been a nailed on Red !!
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Post by BoxxyTheLost on Jan 15, 2011 18:53:40 GMT
The tackle on Etherington by Ricketts was a good one, he clearly won the ball, watch it tonight. I thought so too at that time.... I agree, excellent tackle. Myatt - But it is up to the referee and that will have an influence on his decision, plus if there's a man covering then it's not a red card imo. |
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Post by northantsash on Jan 15, 2011 18:55:32 GMT
ricketts tackle on etherington was a great tackle, ethers just got hit hard and went into the hoardings. it was a reducer tackle, to let ethers know he was there. wilko has made many a similar challenge in his time so i really don't know what the issue is.
tackles like craddocks on jones at wanky wanderers and the stuff van bommel was dishing out at the world cup are the ones which should be punished, deliberate attempts to "nail" a player are unacceptable.
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Post by Big J on Jan 15, 2011 19:11:42 GMT
'it wasn't that sort of game'
No matter what sort of game it is, denying a goal scoring opportunity illegally is a red card. End of.
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