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Post by gaznandi on Jan 3, 2011 11:18:02 GMT
www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_6631709,00.html So would we put Ryan in the same bracket, and do we think anyone would actually bid that much for either of them..? I think, considering they're both at mid table clubs, if someone offers £15mill, both clubs, us and Bolton, would snatch the bidders hand off.. I'm not saying thats the right thing to do mind you...
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Post by tomaldinho99 on Jan 3, 2011 11:19:40 GMT
Could you find yourself in a state to pay £20-30m for a 'Bolton Wanderers' player?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2011 11:20:23 GMT
Joleon Lescott = 24 million i think?
Cahill and Ryan are both better than him so Yes from me!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 3, 2011 11:20:57 GMT
www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_6631709,00.html So would we put Ryan in the same bracket, and do we think anyone would actually bid that much for either of them..? I think, considering they're both at mid table clubs, if someone offers £15mill, both clubs, us and Bolton, would snatch the bidders hand off.. I'm not saying thats the right thing to do mind you... Bolton, with debts of over £80 million are under pressure to sell at that sort of price, we are not. If/when we sell a player for that sort of money it will be with a view to using all or most of the money to improve the overall quality of the squad. Bolton would use most of the windfall to reduce their debt. |
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Post by RINGO STARR on Jan 3, 2011 11:24:16 GMT
That means to me that they're ready to talk to someone and will accept anything between £16-£20M.
In answer to the question if Cahill is worth this much is Ryanalso. My answer would be Yes .
However I don't think any clubs in the Premeir league would touch Shawcross or Cahill at those prices.
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Post by trevo711 on Jan 3, 2011 11:41:51 GMT
I think Ryan's much better than Cahill. Better at making blocks, tackles and headers.
Although Cahill would do well at a big team as theres not 'loads' of defensive work to do. What i'm saying is, Stokes defence has so much more to do than say Uniteds. So stick floppy Ferdinand in our back 4 and he'd be dead after half-an-hour especially at his age. Ryan will carry on going and thats what he's been taught by Tony. Cahill, is to me, at lot like Ferdinand as Boltons midfield acts in defensive at lot of the time to help him out.
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Post by Jimmy Cooper on Jan 3, 2011 11:44:19 GMT
Neither of them are worth that. £15m and they're anybody's is my guess.
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Post by trevo711 on Jan 3, 2011 11:47:34 GMT
Could you find yourself in a state to pay £20-30m for a 'Bolton Wanderers' player? As bad as it sounds, some great players have played and been sold-on from Bolton. With the likes on Anelka who played for Madrid and still plays and is a first team member at Chelsea. Gudjohnsen made his name there aswell. |
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Post by SA_78 on Jan 3, 2011 11:48:24 GMT
I would certainly pay £20 million for Tim Cahill, not sure about Gary though!!
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Post by mistersausage on Jan 3, 2011 11:50:45 GMT
£20 million for Cahill ;D ;D ;D Lescott was fucking ridiculous. Neither are worth more than £5 million. That tombstone toothed twat Coyle makes me feel quite ill every time I see him. He looks like a gargoyle and his teeth must have 7 inch roots  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2011 11:53:05 GMT
We just have to make sure we dont make the mistakes of old by selling players below their 'market value' (deliberate choice of words)
or, sell players that you'd normally build a club around - like Huth, Ryan or Begovic
mind you the Liam Lawrence thread below if true, already implies we have done
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Post by scfcloyalist on Jan 3, 2011 12:01:29 GMT
cahill is a better all round player than shawcross, and you can see why he is ahead of ryan in the england set-up, however, they are both worth around that bracket, after how stupid the football world has gone, and with them both still being young they should bring around that money.
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Post by Jimmy Cooper on Jan 3, 2011 12:02:44 GMT
For anything over £10million we would sell Ryan.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2011 12:05:41 GMT
why ? if the market for good centre halves is up to double that ?
he is young and raw - still learning but, he is our captain too and coveted by many other teams
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Post by wenger on Jan 3, 2011 12:07:28 GMT
unless City want Cahill or Shawcross no one is gonna pay 20 million for them. Good PL centre halves...thats it. Its not like they are world class
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Post by Jimmy Cooper on Jan 3, 2011 12:07:54 GMT
Nope, people are living in a dreamland if they think we will get £20-£30 million bids for Ryan. Same story with Cahill. No-one will pay that.
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Post by Squeekster on Jan 3, 2011 12:12:15 GMT
I would call Boltons bluff and start at £5 mill to test their resolve, as mentioned they need to sell and Gartside has said as much.
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Post by Jimmy Cooper on Jan 3, 2011 12:15:24 GMT
unless City want Cahill or Shawcross no one is gonna pay 20 million for them. Good PL centre halves...thats it. Its not like they are world class Both are better than the shower of shite you have at the back though |
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Post by wenger on Jan 3, 2011 12:18:42 GMT
unless City want Cahill or Shawcross no one is gonna pay 20 million for them. Good PL centre halves...thats it. Its not like they are world class Both are better than the shower of shite you have at the back though let me guess.... because they are English and have grit and determination? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2011 12:20:27 GMT
Both are better than the shower of shite you have at the back though let me guess.... because they are English and have grit and determination? No......because both can actually defend! |
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Post by wenger on Jan 3, 2011 12:21:48 GMT
let me guess.... because they are English and have grit and determination? No......because both can actually defend! then how come they have conceded more goals? |
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Post by trevo711 on Jan 3, 2011 12:24:11 GMT
The Ryan situation is all around if Ryan wants to leave or a redic amount of money was offered. We wouldn't get rid for nothing eles and currently none of the above has happened accept a few rumours with Juventus and Madrid ect..
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Post by stokelad84 on Jan 3, 2011 12:24:13 GMT
wenger, if you had some grit and determination anywhere in your side then you you may have actually won a trophy recently! When was the last time that happened?  |
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Post by RMSCFC on Jan 3, 2011 12:25:55 GMT
If someone cam in with an offer of 12 million for hiim he would take it.
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Post by wenger on Jan 3, 2011 12:27:50 GMT
wenger, if you had some grit and determination anywhere in your side then you you may have actually won a trophy recently! When was the last time that happened? 2005...when was the last time you have won anything? Also didnt answer my question why we concede less if we cant defend? |
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Post by RMSCFC on Jan 3, 2011 12:29:47 GMT
wenger, if you had some grit and determination anywhere in your side then you you may have actually won a trophy recently! When was the last time that happened? 2005...when was the last time you have won anything? Also didnt answer my question why we concede less if we cant defend? We won Promotion 2 and a half seasons ago |
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Post by stokelad84 on Jan 3, 2011 12:31:14 GMT
You are a top 4 team, or are you just so blinkered that you expect everybody else to have the finances you have had for the last ten years?  You should be comparing yourself to Man Utd and Chelski, not little Stoke. But then again, you don't want to do that because they actually win trophys and you do not! |
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Post by scfcloyalist on Jan 3, 2011 12:31:50 GMT
lets put it this way, there both better than arsenals current centre halfs.
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Post by wenger on Jan 3, 2011 12:35:22 GMT
They are not better than Djourou, Vermaleen or Koscielny. I give you they are better than Squallaci
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Post by scfcloyalist on Jan 3, 2011 12:37:01 GMT
haha dont make me laugh, djourou and koscielny are fucking terrible!, vermaleen? LMAO shows how much a true arsenal fan you are, you cant even spell his name right, its vermaelen pal.
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