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Post by wuzza on Dec 21, 2010 17:51:33 GMT
He's a bright bloke (you only have to hear him interviewed) and a very good footballer. If he has matured and TP thinks he can sort him he would be a brilliant signing. In reality though a move back closer to the influences that seem to haunt him in Merseyside probably wouldnt be a good idea.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 21, 2010 17:51:59 GMT
Very decent passer of the ball, very committed and all in all very impressive this season. A pity he is such a moron though! I really don't think it's possible to avoid difficult situations with this player at any club.
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Post by LDE76 on Dec 21, 2010 18:03:46 GMT
One word.
Two letters.
First one is "n".
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Post by burberrybassist on Dec 21, 2010 18:25:11 GMT
It's a tough one really, would have him in a shot for that price going off his ability and the fact he would be great for Stoke, but I can't see him staying on the straight and narrow for too long.
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Post by roostersgonnagetya on Dec 21, 2010 18:28:35 GMT
quality player, who cares what the media think, we would be playing him to play football not to murder people, how would that affect the clubs look from the outside? absolute bollocks, As Marlon Kings current club lost it's popularity because they have signed Marlon King, he's a bigger scummer than barton, besides, we have never had a good image anyway to tarnish, or have people not realised this? no one likes us we don't care.
Barton should be signed for that price or would you prefer we keep paying over the odds for shit footballers in the midfield area because we can't attract a squeaky clean bed by 8 o clocker who is also a top class central midfielder? I know which I would go for.
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Post by roostersgonnagetya on Dec 21, 2010 18:30:21 GMT
For the price mentioned, if he went off the rails he could be sacked, simples.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2010 18:31:05 GMT
quality player, who cares what the media think, we would be playing him to play football not to murder people, how would that affect the clubs look from the outside? absolute bollocks, As Marlon Kings current club lost it's popularity because they have signed Marlon King, he's a bigger scummer than barton, besides, we have never had a good image anyway to tarnish, or have people not realised this? no one likes us we don't care. Barton should be signed for that price or would you prefer we keep paying over the odds for shit footballers in the midfield area because we can't attract a squeaky clean bed by 8 o clocker who is also a top class central midfielder? I know which I would go for. It isn't about the club's look, it's about the impact he'd have on the dressing room, given that team spirit is a big part of what's got us this far, and the fact that there's a strong chance he'll go off the rails again and we'll have forked out for a player who's suspended for months or in prison.
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Post by roostersgonnagetya on Dec 21, 2010 18:39:21 GMT
quality player, who cares what the media think, we would be playing him to play football not to murder people, how would that affect the clubs look from the outside? absolute bollocks, As Marlon Kings current club lost it's popularity because they have signed Marlon King, he's a bigger scummer than barton, besides, we have never had a good image anyway to tarnish, or have people not realised this? no one likes us we don't care. Barton should be signed for that price or would you prefer we keep paying over the odds for shit footballers in the midfield area because we can't attract a squeaky clean bed by 8 o clocker who is also a top class central midfielder? I know which I would go for. It isn't about the club's look, it's about the impact he'd have on the dressing room, given that team spirit is a big part of what's got us this far, and the fact that there's a strong chance he'll go off the rails again and we'll have forked out for a player who's suspended for months or in prison. As have said above, for the price quoted he could be sacked. That much for Barton is a steal when you compare that price to the price we have paid for Tonge,Soares,Arismendi,Wilson ,danny collins. It's a no brainer it really is. Team spirit got us thus far? really ??? explain beattie, kitson, fuller butting griffin, tuncays strops, if pulis can deal with that he can deal with Barton, he could just be the manager that settles him down. It's laughable people wouldn't take Barton when you consider the amateur shite we have for central midfield at the moment. I know lets spunk millions on Jermaine Jenas who isn't in Bartons league as a footballer and done the square root of fuck all for seasons after seasons.
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Post by roostersgonnagetya on Dec 21, 2010 18:43:19 GMT
Bartons shite attitude doesnt seem to be affecting newcastle, infact he's arguably there best player,
they must fucking hate him for it in the dressing room.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2010 18:43:51 GMT
It isn't about the club's look, it's about the impact he'd have on the dressing room, given that team spirit is a big part of what's got us this far, and the fact that there's a strong chance he'll go off the rails again and we'll have forked out for a player who's suspended for months or in prison. All clubs have bust ups - getting to grips with the modern Premier League player is a steep learning curve. Just because we've had a few rows doesn't mean there's no team spirit there - in fact, it's evident that for the most part, the spirit is excellent. Barton is on another plane to the players you list. He's a psychopath. Stubbing cigars out in people's eyes? Battering team mates until they resemble the elephant man? Unprovoked assaults in the street and on the pitch? He's a lost cause. I don't think Barton is streets ahead of Jenas either for what it's worth. He's having a good season this season, when did he last have one before that? 2007? I'm not against us signing "bad boys" but Barton is something else.
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Post by roostersgonnagetya on Dec 21, 2010 18:46:47 GMT
All clubs have bust ups - getting to grips with the modern Premier League player is a steep learning curve. Just because we've had a few rows doesn't mean there's no team spirit there - in fact, it's evident that for the most part, the spirit is excellent. Barton is on another plane to the players you list. He's a psychopath. Stubbing cigars out in people's eyes? Battering team mates until they resemble the elephant man? Unprovoked assaults in the street and on the pitch? He's a lost cause. I don't think Barton is streets ahead of Jenas either for what it's worth. He's having a good season this season, when did he last have one before that? 2007? I'm not against us signing "bad boys" but Barton is something else. see above. Lets carry on signing shite then because we want nice boys at the club. Barton is exactly the type of footballer we are crying out for, that is the be all and end all of it for me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2010 18:49:30 GMT
All clubs have bust ups - getting to grips with the modern Premier League player is a steep learning curve. Just because we've had a few rows doesn't mean there's no team spirit there - in fact, it's evident that for the most part, the spirit is excellent. Barton is on another plane to the players you list. He's a psychopath. Stubbing cigars out in people's eyes? Battering team mates until they resemble the elephant man? Unprovoked assaults in the street and on the pitch? He's a lost cause. I don't think Barton is streets ahead of Jenas either for what it's worth. He's having a good season this season, when did he last have one before that? 2007? I'm not against us signing "bad boys" but Barton is something else. see above. Lets carry on signing shite then because we want nice boys at the club. Barton is exactly the type of footballer we are crying out for, that is the be all and end all of it for me. Again, I'm not averse to us signing ne'er do wells (a la Pennant) but Barton has proven time and again that he's a lost cause. Could we not sign a decent midfielder who isn't a nutter? Is that too radical a shout for you?
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Post by Irish Stokie on Dec 21, 2010 18:54:02 GMT
All clubs have bust ups - getting to grips with the modern Premier League player is a steep learning curve. Just because we've had a few rows doesn't mean there's no team spirit there - in fact, it's evident that for the most part, the spirit is excellent. Barton is on another plane to the players you list. He's a psychopath. Stubbing cigars out in people's eyes? Battering team mates until they resemble the elephant man? Unprovoked assaults in the street and on the pitch? He's a lost cause. I don't think Barton is streets ahead of Jenas either for what it's worth. He's having a good season this season, when did he last have one before that? 2007? I'm not against us signing "bad boys" but Barton is something else. see above. Lets carry on signing shite then because we want nice boys at the club. Barton is exactly the type of footballer we are crying out for, that is the be all and end all of it for me. Bad boys are one thing but Barton is a complete an utter scumbag, so no thanks.
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Post by roostersgonnagetya on Dec 21, 2010 18:56:24 GMT
see above. Lets carry on signing shite then because we want nice boys at the club. Barton is exactly the type of footballer we are crying out for, that is the be all and end all of it for me. Again, I'm not averse to us signing ne'er do wells (a la Pennant) but Barton has proven time and again that he's a lost cause. Could we not sign a decent midfielder who isn't a nutter? Is that too radical a shout for you? yes it is when you consider that barton is available for that price and he is exactly the type of player we need and have failed to find in the last 7 or 8 attempts, which adds up in fuck knows how many million pound. Lost cause? Not on this seasons evidence on and off the field he is not. As i've said above, for £1.5million, he steps out of line he is down the road, the club would have perfect grounds to sack him. where is the risk in that? upsetting the dressing room, you make our lot sound like a bunch of 3 year old girls, they are men ffs, professionals.
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Post by peterfoxforever on Dec 21, 2010 18:56:47 GMT
Not unless he has a shave!
PFF
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2010 19:02:50 GMT
Again, I'm not averse to us signing ne'er do wells (a la Pennant) but Barton has proven time and again that he's a lost cause. Could we not sign a decent midfielder who isn't a nutter? Is that too radical a shout for you? yes it is when you consider that barton is available for that price and he is exactly the type of player we need and have failed to find in the last 7 or 8 attempts. Lost cause? Not on this seasons evidence on and off the field he is not. As i've said above, for £1.5million, he steps out of line he is down the road, the club would have perfect grounds to sack him. where is the risk in that? upsetting the dressing room, you make our lot sound like a bunch of 3 year old girls, they are men ffs, professionals. Ask Morten Gamst Pedersen how he's conducted himself on the field this season. Just because he hasn't got himself arrested for a while doesn't automatically make him a reformed character. He's been a dressing room problem everywhere he's played and we really don't need that happening to us. You say "they're grown men, professionals", yet if it were that simple it would never happen anywhere would it? It also isn't as simple as just sacking him - he'd be on big wages that would need paying off - presumably he'd want certain guarantees in his contract about that. He's a risk not worth taking.
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Post by Roy Cropper on Dec 21, 2010 19:08:04 GMT
One word.
Two letters.
First one is "n".
;D ;D ;D ;D "A shrubbery!"
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Post by roostersgonnagetya on Dec 21, 2010 19:08:50 GMT
yes it is when you consider that barton is available for that price and he is exactly the type of player we need and have failed to find in the last 7 or 8 attempts. Lost cause? Not on this seasons evidence on and off the field he is not. As i've said above, for £1.5million, he steps out of line he is down the road, the club would have perfect grounds to sack him. where is the risk in that? upsetting the dressing room, you make our lot sound like a bunch of 3 year old girls, they are men ffs, professionals. Ask Morten Gamst Pedersen how he's conducted himself on the field this season. Just because he hasn't got himself arrested for a while doesn't automatically make him a reformed character. He's been a dressing room problem everywhere he's played and we really don't need that happening to us. You say "they're grown men, professionals", yet if it were that simple it would never happen anywhere would it? It also isn't as simple as just sacking him - he'd be on big wages that would need paying off - presumably he'd want certain guarantees in his contract about that. He's a risk not worth taking. Ask Pederson Fuckinghell, he barely touched him. Barton has handled his on field temper extremely well considering people have been out to get him, you give me pederson i'll give you karl henry consistently trying to break his legs that game, that would test anybodys temprement yet barton kept on getting up and getting on with the game. the pederson incident happens everyweek somewhere or other, take zinedane zidane for example headbutting in the world cup final. People are bored with this barton witch hunt, not least other players he's a quality player.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2010 19:14:21 GMT
Ask Morten Gamst Pedersen how he's conducted himself on the field this season. Just because he hasn't got himself arrested for a while doesn't automatically make him a reformed character. He's been a dressing room problem everywhere he's played and we really don't need that happening to us. You say "they're grown men, professionals", yet if it were that simple it would never happen anywhere would it? It also isn't as simple as just sacking him - he'd be on big wages that would need paying off - presumably he'd want certain guarantees in his contract about that. He's a risk not worth taking. Ask Pederson Fuckinghell, he barely touched him. Barton has handled his on field temper extremely well considering people have been out to get him, you give me pederson i'll give you karl henry consistently trying to break his legs that game, that would test anybodys temprement yet barton kept on getting up and getting on with the game. the pederson incident happens everyweek somewhere or other, take zinedane zidane for example headbutting in the world cup final. People are bored with this barton witch hunt, not least other players he's a quality player. "Barely touched him". Are you his agent? He belted him.
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Post by roostersgonnagetya on Dec 21, 2010 19:17:50 GMT
belted him? he barley touched him! o.k then what about huth "belting" that player in the face ? What about gerry taggart grabbing dennis wise by the throat? what about eric cantona drop kicking a supporter, the pederson incident was handbags.
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Post by trevo711 on Dec 21, 2010 19:23:04 GMT
If Pennant was unable to sign then yes. His crosses are spot on and he's similar to Jermaine. But as some Stokies has said, his reputation is utter shite ;D so we don't need the shit he would bring.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 21, 2010 19:24:03 GMT
NE journo seems to think this Barton story is complete garbage
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Post by roostersgonnagetya on Dec 21, 2010 19:30:08 GMT
belted him? he barley touched him! o.k then what about huth "belting" that player in the face ? What about gerry taggart grabbing dennis wise by the throat? what about eric cantona drop kicking a supporter, the pederson incident was handbags. What about Ric "belting" griffin in the face robvandeurzan? ???
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Post by Irish Stokie on Dec 21, 2010 19:31:09 GMT
belted him? he barley touched him! o.k then what about huth "belting" that player in the face ? What about gerry taggart grabbing dennis wise by the throat? what about eric cantona drop kicking a supporter, the pederson incident was handbags. He punched him full force in the chest, of that there is no doubt and just because Huth was a gobshite and hit Upson doesn't mean we should sign every player that hits someone. Huth's incident was a one off in his time here while Bartons is one of a long list both on and off the field. He is scum and it'll be a sad day for any club to see him wearing there shirt.
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Post by roostersgonnagetya on Dec 21, 2010 19:31:42 GMT
what about roy keane snapping david boosts leg on purpose rvd?
what about lee bowyer fighting with keiron dyer on the field rvd?
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Post by feynmann2 on Dec 21, 2010 19:32:36 GMT
belted him? he barley touched him! o.k then what about huth "belting" that player in the face ? What about gerry taggart grabbing dennis wise by the throat? what about eric cantona drop kicking a supporter, the pederson incident was handbags. He punched him full force in the chest, of that there is no doubt and just because Huth was a gobshite and hit Upson doesn't mean we should sign every player that hits someone. Huth's incident was a one off in his time here while Bartons is one of a long list both on and off the field. He is scum and it'll be a sad day for any club to see him wearing there shirt. Absolutely agree
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Post by roostersgonnagetya on Dec 21, 2010 19:34:40 GMT
belted him? he barley touched him! o.k then what about huth "belting" that player in the face ? What about gerry taggart grabbing dennis wise by the throat? what about eric cantona drop kicking a supporter, the pederson incident was handbags. He punched him full force in the chest, of that there is no doubt and just because Huth was a gobshite and hit Upson doesn't mean we should sign every player that hits someone. Huth's incident was a one off in his time here while Bartons is one of a long list both on and off the field. He is scum and it'll be a sad day for any club to see him wearing there shirt. i know newcastle must be gutted to have barton playing there. As long as he conducts himself in the dressing room and on the field winning us points in a reasonable fashion, i for one, couldn't give a flying fuck what he does away from the pitch.
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Post by feynmann2 on Dec 21, 2010 19:36:11 GMT
He punched him full force in the chest, of that there is no doubt and just because Huth was a gobshite and hit Upson doesn't mean we should sign every player that hits someone. Huth's incident was a one off in his time here while Bartons is one of a long list both on and off the field. He is scum and it'll be a sad day for any club to see him wearing there shirt. i know newcastle must be gutted to have barton playing there. As long as he conducts himself in the dressing room and on the field winning us points in a reasonable fashion, i for one, couldn't give a flying fuck what he does away from the pitch. If they are willing to sell him for £1.5M rather than offer him a new deal then they are hardly desperate for his services are they??
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Post by roostersgonnagetya on Dec 21, 2010 19:41:43 GMT
i know newcastle must be gutted to have barton playing there. As long as he conducts himself in the dressing room and on the field winning us points in a reasonable fashion, i for one, couldn't give a flying fuck what he does away from the pitch. If they are willing to sell him for £1.5M rather than offer him a new deal then they are hardly desperate for his services are they?? Does it coincide with the arrival of alan "i'm morally as right as oatcke posters" arrival, hughton had no problem with him or he would not of played, to play as well as he has this season you have to knuckle down.
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Post by madnellie on Dec 21, 2010 19:42:22 GMT
Can't stand him and never, ever want to see him in a Stoke shirt. Yes he's a decent footballer but he's also a vile excuse for a human being....
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