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Post by bettsy on Dec 11, 2010 22:39:47 GMT
WRITTEN BY A BLACKPOOL FAN
thought this was pretty good too
What does the Wizard of OZ, & Stoke have...
... in common?
Answer; Both have Tin Men who need help to achieve their hearts desire.
And Tin Men is the almost perfect analogy for that inflexible rigid (4-4-2 yawn) formation that Pulis has sent out from day one when Stoke entered the premiership.
Stoke; Set-up like Tin Men, to play like Tin men, mechanically clanking around the pitch, doggedly following those crude punch hole carded instructions programmed into them by T.P.
Contrast that approach to Plucky little Blackpool whose FIRST season in the Premier league is like a breath of fresh air in the Prem. Like Dorothy, Blackpool FC have merrily/naively skipped and danced their way along the season long Premiership brick road, to overcome the various foes and obstacles placed in their way.
And unlike Stoke, they also have a manager in Ian Holloway who has; No major concern or anxieties over what the opposition is doing, or are capable of doing. No rigid inflexible team formation rules fanatically programmed into players and as consequence, players performing stiffly & mechanically on the pitch. NO (We MUST ONLY have eleven 7 ft tall Cybermen)on the pitch to be able to compete effectively.
The only rule given to his players by the Wizard Holloway, is go out, play good football without FEAR of the oppositon (home & away), and as a consequence look at the result they achieved today.
And the irony of their winning result today was epitomised by D.j Campbell who I.H has bought for a very modest amount when compared to his opposite Stoke counter-parts. Not the tallest of players in the prem, but posessing the vital quickness of mind/feet to react quicker than Stokes slumbering titan sized defenders to pounce and score the 2nd half winner.
Im afraid to say that Blackpool/I.H has acheived in little under half a season of premiership football what its taken T.P/Stoke THREE SEASONS and counting to achieve. A team with spirit, passion, commitment, but who'se players are free'er to express themselves when on the pitch rather than pre-programmed to play a certain way, when in certain situations, and more importantly without being shackled by fear of opposition, or rigid team formation.
If Sir Stan Matthews(R.I.P)was watching today i wonder which of his two past clubs he'd be wanting to play for today?
The team who have the heart to just go out and just play and enjoy their game, or the mechanical tin men who have had their heart/freedom to play and express themselves surgically removed.
Im sure there are many Stokies who will agree with me and instead of being bitter at Blackpool and the result today,will look at Blackpool, congratulate them, and hope that T.P will instill a more Ian Hollowayesk approach with his players and team's game plans.
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 11, 2010 22:41:47 GMT
Yes; we play 4-4-1-1, not 4-4-2.
Not sure what's wrong with the author. Blackpool have received nothing but congratulations and compliments from the Stoke report, so heaven knows what he's wittering on about in that last paragraph.
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Post by geriatricoatcake on Dec 11, 2010 22:43:05 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 11, 2010 22:44:21 GMT
I hate Blackpool. I hate Holloway.
They do play good football though but I conna stand 'em.
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Post by PolPotter on Dec 11, 2010 22:47:09 GMT
There will be a few die hard Pool supporters with tunnel vision who feel they are not getting any credit.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Dec 11, 2010 22:49:02 GMT
A tad OTT to say the least - there as been many a game when we have played with heart and soul that has seen many a 'bigger' team off. We did not do any of that today.
Bloody hell Blackpool, you won and deserved to as many on here and at the game have said - learn to win with good grace hey and do not bring the great man in to this for your own glorification
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Post by swampySCFC on Dec 11, 2010 22:49:34 GMT
Its all bollocks. We are 3rd season mid table Stoke.
Come back when you can match what Pulis has done for us
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Post by PolPotter on Dec 11, 2010 22:52:12 GMT
I hate Blackpool. I hate Holloway. They do play good football though but I conna stand 'em. I can't believe you hate Holloway. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 11, 2010 22:57:21 GMT
I hate Blackpool. I hate Holloway. They do play good football though but I conna stand 'em. I can't believe you hate Holloway. Why? I have done for years, I hope they fine him. |
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Post by Tubes on Dec 11, 2010 22:59:23 GMT
Keeping Blackpool up will be a bigger achievement than TP keeping us up in our first season. However, they're a long way from safe yet and I think we'll see them drawn into the mix come the end of the season.
It's a seemingly illogical dig at a manager who has performed wonders at Stoke. Yes we were poor today (although not according to MotD) but to call Stoke a heartless team is blinkered bordering on ridiculous.
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Post by bettsy on Dec 11, 2010 23:03:36 GMT
Keeping Blackpool up will be a bigger achievement than TP keeping us up in our first season. However, they're a long way from safe yet and I think we'll see them drawn into the mix come the end of the season. It's a seemingly illogical dig at a manager who has performed wonders at Stoke. Yes we were poor today (although not according to MotD) but to call Stoke a heartless team is blinkered bordering on ridiculous. he has got some valid points though |
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Post by icelandpotter on Dec 11, 2010 23:06:40 GMT
I hate Blackpool. I hate Holloway. They do play good football though but I conna stand 'em. I can't believe you hate Holloway. Just try to think back to QPR at home, when they bullied, kicked and fouled us for 90 mins. That birdshit haired Mark Bircham or whatever his name is tried to wind Taggart (and the fans) up to the point we wanted his blood. That day Holloway's team were filth, and he sent them out that way. It was a 22 man brawl rather than a match. Holloway may try to endear himself to the public with his rants, but he knows what he's doing. He wants to be the new Premiership darling, but I know what he's up to. |
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Post by Aleksandr Orlov on Dec 11, 2010 23:07:01 GMT
those supporters are getting way too carried away, its not even christmas and how can they say they holloway has achieved what took pulis 3 years to complete in 6 months. Utter bullshit. They have achieved fuck all yet
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Post by icelandpotter on Dec 11, 2010 23:08:02 GMT
I think we'll see them drawn into the mix come the end of the season. judging by today, that team are safe as houses. Better than West Brom, Wigan and possibly Wolves. |
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Post by mowerman on Dec 11, 2010 23:18:48 GMT
When you open a box of matchmakers and their all broken
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Post by PolPotter on Dec 11, 2010 23:21:57 GMT
I can't believe you hate Holloway. Just try to think back to QPR at home, when they bullied, kicked and fouled us for 90 mins. That birdshit haired Mark Bircham or whatever his name is tried to wind Taggart (and the fans) up to the point we wanted his blood. That day Holloway's team were filth, and he sent them out that way. It was a 22 man brawl rather than a match. Holloway may try to endear himself to the public with his rants, but he knows what he's doing. He wants to be the new Premiership darling, but I know what he's up to. What utter bollocks! I hope he keeps them up and continues to do the Bristol Rovers thing! Like Stoke City haven't ruffled feathers. Pricks, the lot of yer. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 11, 2010 23:23:42 GMT
I am a prick but so is Holloway. ;D
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Post by icelandpotter on Dec 11, 2010 23:25:37 GMT
Just try to think back to QPR at home, when they bullied, kicked and fouled us for 90 mins. That birdshit haired Mark Bircham or whatever his name is tried to wind Taggart (and the fans) up to the point we wanted his blood. That day Holloway's team were filth, and he sent them out that way. It was a 22 man brawl rather than a match. Holloway may try to endear himself to the public with his rants, but he knows what he's doing. He wants to be the new Premiership darling, but I know what he's up to. What utter bollocks! I hope he keeps them up and continues to do the Bristol Rovers thing! Like Stoke City haven't ruffled feathers. Pricks, the lot of yer. You're intelligent. Just for the record, I don't mind Blackpool and have respect for them. Holloway I'm not so sure on reference my last post. |
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Post by Tubes on Dec 11, 2010 23:25:59 GMT
judging by today, that team are safe as houses. Better than West Brom, Wigan and possibly Wolves. sure they created lots of chances and played some good football, but that was against a non existent Stoke midfield. The worrying thing from their point of view is their defensive frailty. We aren't known for creating hundreds of chances and we had plenty today, they couldn't defend a ball into the box to save their lives. I'm not saying they'll go down, in fact I hope they don't, but it's a long way to the end of the season. Do they have the depth of squad? Will their team spirit last? Will teams work them out? There's plenty of recent history to show many promoted teams have a great first half of the season before plummeting down the league like a lead balloon in the second half. |
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Post by icelandpotter on Dec 11, 2010 23:33:04 GMT
Do they have the depth of squad? Will their team spirit last? Will teams work them out? There's plenty of recent history to show many promoted teams have a great first half of the season before plummeting down the league like a lead balloon in the second half. I know what you mean but the football they played, to me, was some of the best I've seen this season. For that reason I don't think they can be "figured out" like we have been with our obvious game plan. |
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Post by coggy on Dec 11, 2010 23:45:30 GMT
Lets see if they are still in the Prem in 2 seasons time before they get so carried away. They played very very well today and all credit but it's keeping that going and before they can put down TP they have another season and hopefully 2 to see if they can stay in it !
IH can't achieve what TP has in half a season because we are in our third so it's impossible !
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Post by Roy Cropper on Dec 11, 2010 23:49:07 GMT
Looks to me like he's based his views on Stoke on one game; today.
To suggest Stoke have no heart or pride is utter bile. Tin-men? If it for our passion we'd not be here right now.
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Post by stokeyhunter on Dec 11, 2010 23:57:39 GMT
i think he is getting a bit to excited
lets come back at the end of the season and see whos higher up in the table
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Post by bettsy on Dec 12, 2010 7:36:32 GMT
Looks to me like he's based his views on Stoke on one game; today. To suggest Stoke have no heart or pride is utter bile. Tin-men? If it for our passion we'd not be here right now. he's definetely based it on 1 game but he was right we had no heart v them, only wilko and matty looked interested but our passion is usually the best in the league |
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Post by mattovstoke on Dec 12, 2010 8:26:29 GMT
How can anyone agree with an idiot spouting shit about what we have achieved and how wank we are, has he/she been there week in week out and seen some of our performances and team spirit, and to be honest all the shit wrote is based on one game they have watched.
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Post by jen on Dec 12, 2010 9:08:24 GMT
To say that Blackpool have achieved what Stoke have is laughable. Let's see where they are at the end of the season.
We didn't play well today - but we still created plenty of chances.
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Post by Linx on Dec 12, 2010 9:15:34 GMT
What an utter nonsense of an extended analogy. It was just a bad day at the office for us and I wouldn't be surprised if we beat them at their place, since their away form is better than their home. Anyway, isn't Judy Garland in The Wizard of Oz a gay icon?  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2010 9:19:16 GMT
Fair enough.
But I remember Hull fans saying exactly the same!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2010 9:42:50 GMT
From what I have seen and read, they played well. We played better. If it were a beauty contest, we would have won that as well. The only salient stat is the result. They won.
The rest of the post about rigid automatons marching to a pre-programmed tune is selective interpretation. Others such as Hansen have applauded our defensive discipline and strength while noting that we are seeking to exploit two very talented wingers creatively, to set up a couple of physically imposing forwards. In response to the OPs last paragraph, I suspect Sir Stan would identify with this type of set-up and know how to fit in with it.
There is a lot of bollocks spoken about playing football the right way. You play to win using the strength of the players at your disposal. Holloway and Pulis are similar in that they have both managed to do this as Premiership newcomers and, as far as it goes, it is working for both of them.
So well done Blackpool. But to push back a little, three years down the line, we tend to feel uneasy about our qualifications to pass judgment on other clubs. Blackpool fans might want to assess whether, after seventeen games, they suddenly have all the answers and whether after 38 they will still feel so secure in their assertions.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 12, 2010 9:50:38 GMT
They might survive this season, but I don't think they will stay up for another season. Of course they deserve credit for doing so well, but I'm not sure it's time to get cocky yet! |
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