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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 2, 2011 16:50:21 GMT
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Post by parttimelurker on Jun 2, 2011 16:56:41 GMT
"Hurler" Wonder why we've signed him then?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 2, 2011 20:32:28 GMT
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Post by liathroid on Jun 2, 2011 20:36:14 GMT
Good spot not even mentioned in any of the national newspapers ,another Irishman
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 2, 2011 23:52:41 GMT
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Post by PenkhullStokie on Jun 3, 2011 0:22:10 GMT
left sided center half's are not that commonHe'll be playing left back then. ;D
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 13, 2011 0:24:24 GMT
We lost 2-1 I think (maybe wrong as we turned up 5/10 minutes late). Who were our centre halves? They both were massive and neither could jump or head a ball and both were run ragged all game. Decentish distribution though. They were terrible! They both must have been 6ft 4"+ but couldn't jump or head and were just generally slow and clumsy. Where the hell did they get those centre halves from Mark? They were friggin' massive but could do nothing bar pass a ball. Head, jump, jostle, tackle, run faster than a tortoise-useless. One of these centre backs is definitely Immanuel Parry! ;D
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Post by PenkhullStokie on Jun 13, 2011 1:14:56 GMT
Emmanuel Pele/ Immanuel Parry.
Heard both now.
Who is he?! ;D
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 13, 2011 1:16:22 GMT
Definitely Immanuel Parry. Can't believe we've signed one of those 2 though! ;D
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 14, 2011 19:09:12 GMT
www.knoxweekly.com.au/news/local/sport/football-soccer/soccer-youngsters-win-uk-deals/2194822.aspxGoalkeeper Dominic Kurasik has inked a deal with English Premier League club Stoke City.
Kurasik, a 14-year-old goalkeeper, has signed a two-year apprenticeship deal with the Potters after completing a month-long trial earlier this year.
Moving to England has long been a dream of mine, I didn't expect it to happen so quickly," he said.
"After a couple of weeks over there they started talking to me and they ended up offering me a deal."
Kurasik will study and train as part of his contract with the Potters and has already received some help from former England keeper Gordon Banks who is involved with the club.
"He gave me some good tips about keeping. I will try to follow his advice," he said.
Kurasik's family, who live in Narre Warren South, will follow him to England in the coming months after they complete the finer details.
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Jun 14, 2011 19:16:20 GMT
Sorry, I haven't been following this thread so it's probably been mentioned already. But wev'e got a 16 (I think?) year old keeper coming over from Bermuda in a couple of weeks who has signed for us.
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Post by PenkhullStokie on Jun 14, 2011 23:26:58 GMT
No more James Alabi then?!
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Post by PenkhullStokie on Jun 14, 2011 23:30:02 GMT
Sorry, I haven't been following this thread so it's probably been mentioned already. But wev'e got a 16 (I think?) year old keeper coming over from Bermuda in a couple of weeks who has signed for us. Dale, he's signed already. Played vs Sunderland and saved a penalty. He's a tonk.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 15, 2011 0:01:17 GMT
No more James Alabi then?! Stop writing gay little questions like that and spit it out! ;D
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Post by PenkhullStokie on Jun 15, 2011 0:11:20 GMT
Speaking to Connor this afternoon, says Alabi chose not to sign as a few other clubs were after him.
We've signed 2 strikers anyway, plus Sulejivic and that bloody Parry geezer. Parry will hopefully be bench material though.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 15, 2011 0:15:41 GMT
Shame but no real loss (hopefully ). Did he mention what clubs?
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Post by PenkhullStokie on Jun 15, 2011 0:41:01 GMT
I thought he was dog shit anyway. And nope. Probably Hartlepool, Vale and Stafford Rangers. ;D
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Post by knowingeye on Jun 15, 2011 7:55:37 GMT
Signing young foreign players. And England has Frank Fielding playing for the U-21s.
Do we wonder why clubs dump the English talent at 16 and 18 yrs old?
This is just plain daft.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jun 15, 2011 11:16:23 GMT
Heck of a risk for the lad and his family to move over here on the basis of a two year schoolboy contract!
In those sort of circumstances you would expect a scholarship deal to be included as a minimum. Perhaps there is?
Aussie keepers seem to be quite vogue at academies at the moment. Liverpool had two until recently.
The first was Dean Bouzanis, self proclaimed best keeper in the World in his age group who is now back in Oz after getting no further than the odd appearance for Accrington Stanley on loan.
The others name escapes me but he left Liverpool and moved to Man United where he regualrly fails to make the youth team bench. Not surprising really as he is shite.
Liverpool were not exactly distraught at loosing him I understand!
edit: Liam Jacobs is the name!
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Post by PenkhullStokie on Jun 15, 2011 11:19:07 GMT
Heck of a risk for the lad and his family to move over here on the basis of a two year schoolboy contract! In those sort of circumstances you would expect a scholarship deal to be included as a minimum. Perhaps there is? Aussie keepers seem to be quite vogue at academies at the moment. Liverpool had two until recently. The first was Dean Bouzanis, self proclaimed best keeper in the World in his age group who is now back in Oz after getting no further than the odd appearance for Accrington Stanley on loan. The others name escapes me but he left Liverpool and moved to Man United where he regualrly fails to make the youth team bench. Not surprising really as he is shite. Liverpool were not exactly distraught at loosing him I understand! edit: Liam Jacobs is the name! You would of thought he'd done his research on how likely he is to get a pro contract etc. ;D
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Post by deadleg on Jun 15, 2011 12:22:57 GMT
Hmm, I wonder what it was that persuaded the young lad and his Caribbean family to want to come and live here?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 15, 2011 12:29:27 GMT
Isn't the Bermudan actually from Nottingham? I remember someone posted on here that someone from the school they worked at in Nottingham was on trial and was Bermudan and a 'keeper.
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Post by knowingeye on Jun 15, 2011 12:45:46 GMT
The football world's going mad and I thought Stoke City were going to develop local talent through the Academy programme. Meanwhile our local talent is lucky to get a look in at lower league level and others looking abroad such is the lack of opportunity. The genuine opportunities don't stack up and the economics (ie ROI) for this lad not perhaps as realisable as he or his family may think.
Above is from experience close to the reality.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 15, 2011 12:55:49 GMT
The football world's going mad and I thought Stoke City were going to develop local talent through the Academy programme. Meanwhile our local talent is lucky to get a look in at lower league level and others looking abroad such is the lack of opportunity. The genuine opportunities don't stack up and the economics (ie ROI) for this lad not perhaps as realisable as he or his family may think. Above is from experience close to the reality. KE look at the current U-18's, there 3 lads from Stoke, Staffordshire and Cheshire and that's it. Bloody disgrace if You ask me but the whole academy at Stoke at the minute looks pointless each day! But it does look like we're in a reserve league this year which is a bonus.
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Post by stokelad84 on Jun 15, 2011 17:20:28 GMT
The football world's going mad and I thought Stoke City were going to develop local talent through the Academy programme. Meanwhile our local talent is lucky to get a look in at lower league level and others looking abroad such is the lack of opportunity. The genuine opportunities don't stack up and the economics (ie ROI) for this lad not perhaps as realisable as he or his family may think. Above is from experience close to the reality. People moan about TP not scouting abroad, but on the other hand you're saying ONLY local lads should be in our Academy??
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 15, 2011 17:27:50 GMT
The football world's going mad and I thought Stoke City were going to develop local talent through the Academy programme. Meanwhile our local talent is lucky to get a look in at lower league level and others looking abroad such is the lack of opportunity. The genuine opportunities don't stack up and the economics (ie ROI) for this lad not perhaps as realisable as he or his family may think. Above is from experience close to the reality. People moan about TP not scouting abroad, but on the other hand you're saying ONLY local lads should be in our Academy?? Surely though that's the job of an academy? To produce local talent? Yeah I expect to have a few from abroad and across the country but currently we have 3! Look at Sunderland, good academy, creating good local players, who they could keep or could sell for £20 million. We had a squad of 22 last season for the academy, half of that at the very least should be local lads imo.
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Post by stokelad84 on Jun 15, 2011 18:46:28 GMT
No point in having 11 lads in the squad purely because they live close by. If theres a lad from 50 miles away who is better than a lad from Fenton, then why bring in the lad from Fenton?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 15, 2011 18:51:56 GMT
No point in having 11 lads in the squad purely because they live close by. If theres a lad from 50 miles away who is better than a lad from Fenton, then why bring in the lad from Fenton? That is completely over simplifying it imo. It's well known due to our wank local scouting network that we miss out on good lads from around this area. Our reputation is also sinking like a stone. The youth policy of any club should imo be about producing youth talent from that clubs area first and foremost. I know You hate local lads Stokelad but if You can't have a youth academy with them in, what's the point.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jun 15, 2011 20:59:06 GMT
No point in having 11 lads in the squad purely because they live close by. If theres a lad from 50 miles away who is better than a lad from Fenton, then why bring in the lad from Fenton? Even dafter if we were to have a club manager who gets involved in making decisions on young players based on only being bothered to watch one game a season and on the results page. It would become crazy should he then instruct the staff to get enough players in who can make sure we don't lose as many games regardless of their ability as individuals to develop as footballers. You would be pretty angry if you thought we had a manager who thought the academy was there as an extension of his own ego and a job centre for his out of work mates till something better came along wouldn't you Stokelad? You being a Stoke supporter and not a managers apologist, like?
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jun 15, 2011 23:26:48 GMT
If only we could get back to the days when we produced local talent like Andy Griffin (born in Wigan), Clive Clarke and James O'Conner (Ireland), Kris Commons (Mansfield) and Lewis Neal (Leicester).
Football's changed and we need to change with it. Not since The Shit brought through the Nevilles, Beckham etc have acadamies been about producing local talent - it's about producing the most first-team players (wherever they come from).
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