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Post by rambo61 on Aug 14, 2010 20:03:39 GMT
Why moan about Delap when Whelan was absolutely garbage today? Some of his passing was laughable, especially in his own defensive areas. While we,re on about laughable passing ,how poor was Ethers today?? Think today is one of those games to put a line under and forget!! ???
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Post by Akinbadbuy on Aug 14, 2010 20:07:34 GMT
Agree entirely
Whelan is poor at best. Delap is our best midfielder barr none.
Ethers massively over rated.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2010 20:10:47 GMT
He did have a poor game today and it surprised me he was playing because i thought he was out injured.
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Post by french toast on Aug 14, 2010 20:11:51 GMT
they were all wank
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Post by knowles on Aug 14, 2010 20:12:46 GMT
Whelan is very overrated and today emphasised that. Pulis needs to take some blame with him though today- he wasn't fit and shouldn't have been anywhere near the pitch.
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Post by harryh157 on Aug 14, 2010 20:16:22 GMT
Agree entirely Whelan is poor at best. Delap is our best midfielder barr none. Ethers massively over rated. I wasn't at the game today and have seen nothing but the result BUT Ethers is quality IMO may have had a bad game today but that happens. Its been clear that mf has been our weakest area for ages but a mf contaning Ethers is the future for me. Harry |
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Post by prettyricky on Aug 14, 2010 20:18:13 GMT
He did have a poor game today and it surprised me he was playing because i thought he was out injured. He has been struggling from a calf injury he probably only featured out of necessity because there was no one else to play that position he was probably still carrying it a little, he is IMO one of our best players. Etherington is also a key man and a top player, Delap is a good player and he fits the bill for our squad but he is a bit old and slow and not as good as Whelan or Ethers. |
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Post by sportsman on Aug 14, 2010 20:18:32 GMT
I seem to remeber Whelan had a spell a year or two ago where he couldn't get off the bench. Now we can't get him on it. Come on Tone get someone in that can pass a football. You can have messi and Rooney up front but if you don't feed them they score under 10 goals a season.
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Aug 14, 2010 20:19:05 GMT
One option for the midfield is to put Faye in there. He has played there as a DM and we can slot wilko at RB, he always done a solid job, and then move Huth at CB. Simples.
SGT
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Post by sportsman on Aug 14, 2010 20:19:22 GMT
If Whelan wasn't 100% fit today, what's the excuse for his last couple of seasons?
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Aug 14, 2010 20:20:24 GMT
Why moan about Delap when Whelan was absolutely garbage today? Some of his passing was laughable, especially in his own defensive areas. While we,re on about laughable passing ,how poor was Ethers today?? Think today is one of those games to put a line under and forget!! ??? I FUCKING LOVE YOUR AVATAR! ;D ;D ;D It makes me hard downstairs. |
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Post by knype on Aug 14, 2010 20:21:26 GMT
Faye, Whelan, Delap are good SQUAD players to use every now and again! We need pace, creativity to move forward!
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Post by fromafar07 on Aug 14, 2010 20:23:15 GMT
why the bloody hell he didnt start Delap and Whitehead in center mid and Tuncay on the right, just to "surprise" Wolves is beyond me !!
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Post by march4 on Aug 14, 2010 20:24:48 GMT
why the bloody hell he didnt start Delap and Whitehead in center mid and Tuncay on the right, just to "surprise" Wolves is beyond me !! I agree  |
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Post by burtonstokie on Aug 14, 2010 20:25:03 GMT
Delap's come in for a lot of criticism tonight when he was much better than Whelan. Delap put a big shift in and doesn't desrve all this flack.
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Post by STAY UP FOR PLANTY on Aug 14, 2010 20:28:46 GMT
whelan was wank , end of
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Post by nickscfc on Aug 14, 2010 20:29:36 GMT
yep thought Whitehead gave it a good go today he just lacks that bit of class.
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Post by sportsman on Aug 14, 2010 20:30:30 GMT
This is my worry burton. No, some players don't deserve stick, but if playing players out of position or some even at all carries on, then i fear some fans will start to boo them out of frustration which i don't really want to happen to them.
If this happens Tone really has to share the blame for it.
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Post by stokie4life on Aug 14, 2010 20:32:52 GMT
I agree. Whelan was just as poor as Delap today. I think that the same could be said for Whitehead as well whose tackling was a little reckless at times and did very little in possession. It is clear we need some more creative midfield players.
I disagree about Ethers being overrated though. He is comfortably our best midfield player.
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Post by Akinbadbuy on Aug 14, 2010 20:47:21 GMT
Harry
Ethers had about 7 or 8 good games last year.
Thats about a fifth of the season. The rest of the time he was woeful.
Cannot beat a man for toffee. Looks unfit and short of pace and ideas.
What annoys me most is that people will slate mama all day on the terraces but when price whelan or ehters give the ball away (plenty of times today) no one says anything, but with mama its boo boo boo all day.
Fickle Stoke very fickle indeed.
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Post by jen on Aug 14, 2010 20:49:26 GMT
I'd rather see Danny Pugh start than Whelan. And not just today.
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Post by knowles on Aug 14, 2010 20:52:18 GMT
I'd rather see Danny Pugh start than Whelan. And not just today. Just said the exact same thing to my mate! |
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Post by bunnyscfc on Aug 14, 2010 20:54:39 GMT
correct jen. Just writing my bit for next weeks Oatcake and focussing on Whelan and the midfield.
Tonge has been our best midfielder pre-season and Pugh never lets us down. Are they good enough? Well, we will never know as it seems Whelan is first name down for many games.
Glenn has had many many chances to impress. He hasn't.
Last April I asked a few Whelan lovers on here to name me 5 games he has bossed since he's been here - including the Championship. I had lots of abuse but I never ever got a list of 3 games, never mind 5.
Wolves midfield dominated today, yet our international midfield 'star' saw a game pass him by AGAIN.
Glenn Whelan is nowhere near good enough. Even a MOTM v Spurs wouldn't change my opinion of him. Emporers new clothes is Glenn. Folk rate him yet can't ever tell us why.
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Post by sportsman on Aug 14, 2010 20:55:44 GMT
I remember Dave saying the other night that 'some of the management team' think we should have a play maker in there.
I'm guessing there that Tone is happy with a Deano, Whelan, Kovac type of player, where as PC or others would like to have someone who can actually pass a football and excite the crowd and in the long term improve attendances.
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Post by knowles on Aug 14, 2010 20:58:26 GMT
What makes me chuckle is that some people describe Whelan as 'creative'.
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Post by harryh157 on Aug 14, 2010 20:59:29 GMT
ABB,
Fans will have their favourites the same as managers and coaches will have. I work away from stoke so only saw half a dozen games at the brit last season plus when they were on telly. Ethers looked good but maybe that was only in the games I saw. I don't think Mama deserves the criticism he gets, I just feel if we are going to move forward then that is an area we need to improve (TP clealy agrees). I'd never slag him, he's been a star and a great servant but IMO just not good enough now, he's not alone and as a team we need to keep moving forward.
Harry
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Post by sportsman on Aug 14, 2010 21:01:29 GMT
Admit if you are one of the supporters today that sang 'Whelan, Whelan' when he ran to take a corner second half.
He's someone that does bugger all throughout the game and always gets his name sung when taking a corner!! Unbelievable.
We use to call Whelan 'crab' for always passing sideways. What do you call someone that doesn't pass sideways but backwards!
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Post by Akinbadbuy on Aug 14, 2010 21:03:57 GMT
Harry
I agree entirely.
Mama is not good enough we all know that, but Delap is still our best midfielder by a country mile. He reads the game so much better that the others. I would honestly pick Pugh ahead of Prince Whelan.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 14, 2010 23:34:48 GMT
What makes me chuckle is that some people describe Whelan as 'creative'. I think it's all relative James!  |
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Post by alexk on Aug 14, 2010 23:41:10 GMT
He is. Compared to Dean 'Tony Henry' Whitehead.
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