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Post by RINGO STARR on Jun 15, 2010 13:57:57 GMT
I was also at a weding and am still rather annoyed (being the politest way of putting it) about it all. I mean which selfish pair of idiots get maried at anytime during a world cup let alone a soddin England game. Not good enough.
Oh well...bring on Friday....promises to be a nervy affair and thats just the getting in at 4am and explaining it side.
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Post by PickSCFC on Jun 15, 2010 15:04:13 GMT
heskey gets the best out of rooney and gerrard and lampard have NEVER played well together so i wouldnt pick lampard just like he did against the US......  just like Sidibe always gets the best out of Fuller !.......... rooney had an off game wheras heskey was MOTM, rooney needs to pull his finger out and mama does get the best out of fuller |
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Post by RINGO STARR on Jun 15, 2010 15:27:25 GMT
Mama gets the best out of Fuller as its Mama given the nod over other players (Tuncay, Kitson etc).
That said, Heskey and Fuller would be a great partnership as Heskey does what Mama does albeit much better.
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Post by luke45 on Jun 15, 2010 16:42:46 GMT
James Johnson-Dawson-Terry-Cole Lennon-Barry-Gerrard-Cole Heskey-Rooney Please pick this team Fabio. I'd have Lampard in for Barry, and Milner in for Lennon, other than that I agree. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 15, 2010 17:48:22 GMT
The thing that worries me is that there's certain players in the team who are undropable however badly they play and this for me applie mostly to Lampard at the moment and perhaps Gerrard in the recent past. I don't think they can play together in the middle however there's no way either will be dropped if this is the case I'd go for
Hart (because he's the best keeper green is so over rated it's unbelievable)
Johnson
Terry
Dawson (better than both Upsom and Carragher)
Cole
Lennon
Barry
Lampard
Cole
Gerrard
Rooney
I pick Lennon ahead of Milner because we need pace in the team for me Joe Cole has to come into the team. For me if Lampard fails to produce again he must be dropped.
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Post by Roy Cropper on Jun 15, 2010 19:34:49 GMT
--------------James
Johnson Dawson Terry A. Cole
--------------Barry
Lennon Gerrard Lampard J.Cole
-------------Rooney
I'd start like that personally and if necessary revert to 'Plan B' and bring on Heskey for Lampard.
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Post by biggyendpotter on Jun 15, 2010 19:55:02 GMT
I would go for... Green johnson Terry Carra Cole Barry Lampard Gerrard Lennon J Cole Rooney Surly would work a ruddy treat that system. I agree exspect id have dawson instead of carragher looked slow against USA |
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Post by hitman on Jun 15, 2010 20:50:55 GMT
james
johnson terry dawson cole
lennon barry lampard cole
gerrard
rooney
if we are to stand any chance of winning it this HAS to be our team! gerrard playing more forward like he does so well with torres, plus he can swap now and again with lampard and mix it up. that team can win the world cup!
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Post by chopsuey on Jun 15, 2010 20:53:39 GMT
Would go with Roys team Gerrard and Lampard play better supporting front man. would play more football instead of hoof ball. Good attacking options and also looks solid defensively
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Post by PickSCFC on Jun 15, 2010 21:26:31 GMT
theres not many on here with the bollocks to drop lampard is there, the bloke is shit for england and always has been, playing him and gerrard together has never worked and never will do
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 15, 2010 22:12:33 GMT
Gerrard is usually shit for England too. Both need to play. ;D
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Post by PoisonedDonkey on Jun 15, 2010 22:45:28 GMT
Although dropping him would potentially ruin his career, starting Green would be risky, every time the ball goes near him he would get nervous and keep thinking about whether he would spill it or not.
Therefore I would go for...
James
Johnson, Terry, Dawson, A. Cole
Lennon, Barry, Lampard, Gerrard, J. Cole
Rooney
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Post by polofrance on Jun 16, 2010 3:34:09 GMT
Talking to some Algerians at work yesterday they are shit scared about the England match, but they can't wait for the "grudge match " with USA. That's the match for them
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 16, 2010 5:05:27 GMT
good team but im of the opinion unless you actually end his england career you have to play green hart is the future with green one of the back ups i dont really want green to play but at the same time we dont need crucify a guy who's one mistake glossed over an unimpressive display Can't understand this view. If we'd followed this we'd still have Scott Carson in goal. Since when have the World Cup Finals been a nursery for mollycoddling shit players so they don't feel too bad about themselves? He's shit, fuck him off and get James in if he's fit. Hart second choice and Green's still there staring at his navel in the case of dire emergency - you never know, he could completely redeem himself in such a situation.  I'm sick of "having to feel sorry for the lad". His error came from a poorly-hit speculative shot, straight at him, that he had a perfect view of. I'm not sure it even qualifies as a save, he was basically bending down to pick the ball up. Totally inexcusable and it should spell the end of his England career just as Carson's did his. |
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Post by aussiebluey on Jun 16, 2010 7:57:56 GMT
Having been at the game I thought Gerrard n Heskey were our two best players (shame Heskey fucked up that one on one). I'd stick with Green - every keeper has a fuck up but he didn't do anything else wrong in the game and is a decent keeper - just an unfortunate mistake. The yanks here are really pissing me off! They're all like - "ahh if Altidore had of scored we would of beaten England!" Fucking idiots, if England had of scored one of our twenty chances in the 2nd half we would of won n they only got lucky to draw.
I really hope they lose to Slovenia - I know it'll put a bit of pressure on us in the final game but it could really screw them over when they're all expecting to now win the group. Just read Clint Dempsey's opinion of the England game on Sky Sports - our players were nervous n scared.. Fuck off Dempsey you're just like the stereotypical arrogant loud American prick who scored the luckiest goal of the tournament so far and are now acting all high n mighty about it - and no your not Alex Ferguson, so stop trying to play mind games. Dickhead...
Ok, rant over...
So my team would be
Green
Johnson
Dawson
Terry
A Cole
Lennon (who I thought also had a good game against the yanks)
Barry
Gerrard
J Cole
Heskey
Rooney
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Post by gaznandi on Jun 16, 2010 8:05:59 GMT
I reckon he'll stay cautious and go...
Green
Johnson
Carragher
Terry
A Cole
Barry
Lampard
Gerrard
J Cole
Heskey
Rooney
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Post by gaznandi on Jun 16, 2010 9:40:52 GMT
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Post by gaznandi on Jun 16, 2010 10:50:31 GMT
From the BBC Sports site...
BREAKING NEWS: Our Chief Football Correspondent, Mike Ingham, has just been told by Fabio Capello that Gareth Barry will START this Friday's match against Algeria.
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Post by gaznandi on Jun 16, 2010 11:17:43 GMT
And either Heskey or Defoe, and the Goalkeeper still to decide on..
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 16, 2010 11:50:51 GMT
Barry will be back. Ace. Another one to get injured. |
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Post by Targaryen Stokie on Jun 16, 2010 12:20:11 GMT
Hart
Johnson
Terry
Dawson
Cole
Lennon
Barry
Lampard
J. Cole
Gerrard
Rooney
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 16, 2010 12:26:44 GMT
FabCap is undecided about who to play with Rooney and who to play in goal
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Post by sgtpotter89 on Jun 16, 2010 12:30:42 GMT
so Fabio has said Barry will play, and that he has yet to decide who to play in goal and whether its Heskey or Defoe that starts with Rooney
cant see Fabio risking Joe Hart in goal. If butterfingers is dropped then James will probably be picked
i would like to see something like this against Algeria
Green
Johnson-Dawson-Terry-Cole
Barry
Cole-Lampard-Gerrard
Heskey-Rooney
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Post by gaznandi on Jun 16, 2010 12:40:32 GMT
I reckon he'll stay cautious and go... Green Johnson Carragher Terry A Cole Barry Lampard Gerrard J Cole Heskey Rooney Makes me think even more that he'll go with this...^^ |
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Post by Cartman on Jun 16, 2010 18:59:29 GMT
Going for a 4-0 england win!
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Post by gaznandi on Jun 16, 2010 20:28:46 GMT
Sol should have been there, according to Sol..:
I wouldn't mind being out in South Africa with the England team.
The way I have been playing for Arsenal, don't you think I should be? I do. For sure.
Regrets? You could say that. I regret the fact that the England camp didn't think of me.
I played my heart out for Arsenal again and thought it was worthy of a chance with England. It never came.
Surely, you pick people in the groove, and I was back in the groove.
Not only that, Capello has gone for one centre half who didn't have a very good season, and another who just missed out on relegation.
It's crazy when you think about it, that I would have done anything for crack at it, but never did.
I was really, really hurt to be totally overlooked."
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Post by PoisonedDonkey on Jun 16, 2010 22:01:44 GMT
Judging by his interview just on ITV 1, he's going to start Rooney and Defoe and not Heskey.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 16, 2010 23:16:26 GMT
I'm not a fan of Heskey but Defoe? Fook me! If You're going to drop Heskey for someone it has to be Crouch if it's another striker.
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Post by luke45 on Jun 16, 2010 23:25:39 GMT
I'm not a fan of Heskey but Defoe? Fook me! If You're going to drop Heskey for someone it has to be Crouch if it's another striker. Agreed. Crouch - England Caps - 39 - Goals 21 Defoe - England Caps - Caps 40 - Goals 11 Says it all really. Although I would personally go with the striker with the shittest strike-rate of them all, Ivanhoe Heskey ;D as Rooney's form is the key to having a chance of winning the tournament, and Rooney plays the best alongside him. |
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Post by icarus on Jun 17, 2010 13:42:06 GMT
look out for my England/Stoke/Royal Marines flag... I'll put it behind the goal.. Hopefully it will be seen when we score and not after a dog cock goalkeeping joke..
I ran into/over some Vale fans and they seem to think that they will get their clown flag up before me, they said to represent the 'real' Stoke on Trent.. To which i replied we banished witches and trolls in the 1600's and Vale are just a shit that won't flush..
Relationship building is my strongest asset....
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