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Post by waitingforwaddo on May 16, 2010 17:38:33 GMT
'Career'. ;D
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Post by mumf14 on May 16, 2010 17:47:13 GMT
INDEED....! Anyone got trading standards number..?   |
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Post by Pugsley on May 16, 2010 17:55:37 GMT
I don't buy into the character assassination of the bloke - he is obviously a good bloke and team man.
Fact is he is a very poor Premier League footballer.
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Post by PickSCFC on May 16, 2010 17:56:53 GMT
I don't buy into the character assassination of the bloke - he is obviously a good bloke and team man. Fact is he is a very poor Premier League footballer. if thats the case then how come he keeps getting picked |
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Post by Pugsley on May 16, 2010 17:59:01 GMT
It's all to do with the HOOF mate.
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Post by PickSCFC on May 16, 2010 18:00:02 GMT
maybe so but it works wheather you like it or not
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Post by Pugsley on May 16, 2010 18:07:33 GMT
I have never said it doesn't.
If you think Sidibe is a good footballer then that's up to you. He is effective in a team full of hoof merchants. He clearly IS NOT a good footballer in my opinion.
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Post by porthillstokie on May 16, 2010 19:06:14 GMT
Its fair to say mama splits opinions amongst our fans , but love him or hate him the guy always gives 100% so lets not get on his back and certainly dont boo him like some ungratefull cunts did with cresswell. Rember where we came from and what these players did 4 our club. Those of you who did boo cresswell and are probley the same 1's gettin on Mamas back Know who you are and are no better than them gloryhunting scum at old trafford. GET BEHIND OUR LADS !
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Post by Cyprusdelilah on May 17, 2010 9:12:13 GMT
Its fair to say mama splits opinions amongst our fans , but love him or hate him the guy always gives 100% so lets not get on his back and certainly dont boo him like some ungratefull cunts did with cresswell. Rember where we came from and what these players did 4 our club. Those of you who did boo cresswell and are probley the same 1's gettin on Mamas back Know who you are and are no better than them gloryhunting scum at old trafford. GET BEHIND OUR LADS ! Never booed Cresswell was not played in the right position, but not quite good enough for premiership, give everything for the club. Yet we've got this bloke who seem's to be 1st on Pulis's team sheet every week, who as no skill, can't head a ball and considering he's the target man it's a joke. Ah, I forgot he works hard just like Cresswell. The only time he's working hard is as the most forward of the midfielders. Can you see any classy 8-10 mill. target man coming to play that kind of way. When you are playing with a taget man it's two upfront, like Ritchie+Greenhoff, Toshack+Keegan, Quinn+Phillips, to mention a few. Not -4-4-1-1 the one behind Fuller should have some creativity, but we've got a hard working donkey. |
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Post by fromafar07 on May 17, 2010 13:56:54 GMT
he wasn't even playing against Fulham was he ?? wasnt he just jumping up and down warming up and me messed up his knee ?
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Post by fromafar07 on May 17, 2010 13:57:57 GMT
I don't buy into the character assassination of the bloke - he is obviously a good bloke and team man. Fact is he is a very poor Premier League footballer. spot on ! fantastic fella poor footballer |
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Post by RINGO STARR on May 17, 2010 14:16:38 GMT
Correct. Great pro. nice bloke etc etc but quite simply not good enough to be starting 30 odd Premier league games. For him to be given a chance over a ully fit Tuncay is criminal.
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Post by evans1863 on May 17, 2010 15:00:58 GMT
Sidibe is more effective in our current side than Tuncay
What has Tuncay done for us?
What has Mama done for us?
Mama wins hands down everytime and its time we shipped Tuncay back to Kebab City
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Post by PickSCFC on May 17, 2010 15:07:12 GMT
Correct. Great pro. nice bloke etc etc but quite simply not good enough to be starting 30 odd Premier league games. For him to be given a chance over a ully fit Tuncay is criminal. mama has been way more effective than tuncay has |
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Post by RINGO STARR on May 17, 2010 15:10:55 GMT
Sidibe is more effective in our current side than Tuncay What has Tuncay done for us? What has Mama done for us? Mama wins hands down everytime and its time we shipped Tuncay back to Kebab City Scored more goals in the last season than Mama Sidibe.Scored away goals at wigan and Burnley in games that we ended up drawing. Scored and ran the show for 45 minutes against Fulham giving us a 3-0 lead at half time. That to me is far more than Mama has done for us this season. Tuncay has only been here for one season and in comparison between the two has done more and is more effective. My question is how many goals away from home has Mama scored? Anyone who thinks that Tuncay should be sold on and wants Mama ahead of them must want to see us returning to the Championship. At least then Mama will look like a striker at the right level. |
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Post by evans1863 on May 17, 2010 15:16:21 GMT
Missed two absolute sitters vs Man City in the league and Chelsea in the cup, both games 0-0 at the time. Constantly throwing tantrums like a 6 year old who dropped his ice cream. Cannot play with Fuller, so many times he tries to be fancy and loses the ball (often when Sidibe is on the pitch with him this somehow becomes his fault  ). Not prolific, does he understand the offside rule? People who would rather see Tuncay than Mama dont understand football IMHO |
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Post by PickSCFC on May 17, 2010 15:17:13 GMT
Sidibe is more effective in our current side than Tuncay What has Tuncay done for us? What has Mama done for us? Mama wins hands down everytime and its time we shipped Tuncay back to Kebab City Scored more goals in the last season than Mama Sidibe.Scored away goals at wigan and Burnley in games that we ended up drawing. Scored and ran the show for 45 minutes against Fulham giving us a 3-0 lead at half time. That to me is far more than Mama has done for us this season. Tuncay has only been here for one season and in comparison between the two has done more and is more effective. My question is how many goals away from home has Mama scored? Anyone who thinks that Tuncay should be sold on and wants Mama ahead of them must want to see us returning to the Championship. At least then Mama will look like a striker at the right level. mama's game isnt about scoring goals its about bringing others into play with his hard work and his height is usefull to us when twatting it long |
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Post by PickSCFC on May 17, 2010 15:17:58 GMT
Missed two absolute sitters vs Man City in the league and Chelsea in the cup, both games 0-0 at the time. Constantly throwing tantrums like a 6 year old who dropped his ice cream. Cannot play with Fuller, so many times he tries to be fancy and loses the ball (often when Sidibe is on the pitch with him this somehow becomes his fault ). Not prolific, does he understand the offside rule? People who would rather see Tuncay than Mama dont understand football IMHO you forgot to mention the sitter he missed against bolton that would have won us the game |
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Post by evans1863 on May 17, 2010 15:19:39 GMT
mama's game isnt about scoring goals its about bringing others into play with his hard work and his height is usefull to us when twatting it long Something which a lot of people seem oblivious. Look at the results throughout Mama's years in the team, you'll see they are far worse when he's not on the pitch with Fuller. |
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Post by RINGO STARR on May 17, 2010 15:26:57 GMT
I can't believe that some people are stupid enough to think that Mama Sidibe is a better football player than Tuncay.
You're highlightingsome of Tuncay's misses against Mama fuckin sidibe-the king of miss timed shots and lack of efforts at goal.
Correct me if I'm wrong but when has Tuncay ever been given the chance to play up front with Ricardo Fuller? I can't remember that many occassions where we've trialled it. Every time we've used Tuncay its been with a different striker as his partner because Pulis said from the off that they can't play together. Yet when they did v's Blackpool-they looked pretty shit hot to me.
If you want to look at stats look at Mams Sidibe's career goal scoring records against Tuncay's. Then tell me why Mama is a better option than Tuncay.
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Post by PickSCFC on May 17, 2010 15:31:15 GMT
I can't believe that some people are stupid enough to think that Mama Sidibe is a better football player than Tuncay. You're highlightingsome of Tuncay's misses against Mama fuckin sidibe-the king of miss timed shots and lack of efforts at goal. Correct me if I'm wrong but when has Tuncay ever been given the chance to play up front with Ricardo Fuller? I can't remember that many occassions where we've trialled it. Every time we've used Tuncay its been with a different striker as his partner because Pulis said from the off that they can't play together. Yet when they did v's Blackpool-they looked pretty shit hot to me. If you want to look at stats look at Mams Sidibe's career goal scoring records against Tuncay's. Then tell me why Mama is a better option than Tuncay. you are obviously blind or maybe your just stupid, nobody is saying that mama is better than tuncay but he is alot more important to us than him because of the system we use. why dont you go and have a look at how many games we have won when mama has played compared to when he hasnt |
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Post by evans1863 on May 17, 2010 15:34:13 GMT
I can't believe that some people are stupid enough to think that Mama Sidibe is a better football player than Tuncay. You're highlightingsome of Tuncay's misses against Mama fuckin sidibe-the king of miss timed shots and lack of efforts at goal. Correct me if I'm wrong but when has Tuncay ever been given the chance to play up front with Ricardo Fuller? I can't remember that many occassions where we've trialled it. Every time we've used Tuncay its been with a different striker as his partner because Pulis said from the off that they can't play together. Yet when they did v's Blackpool-they looked pretty shit hot to me. If you want to look at stats look at Mams Sidibe's career goal scoring records against Tuncay's. Then tell me why Mama is a better option than Tuncay. I highlight Tuncay's misses because people see him as the messiah, despite the fact he's been fucking useless, and in the same breath slag off Sidibe who has always put in 100% for us and is one of the main reasons were in this fucking division. For most sides Tuncay is a lot better than Sidibe but the way Stoke play means the Sidibe role will always be crucial, Tuncay cant play this (he cant play the Fuller role and he cant play wide, hence he's useless) so therefore Mama needs picking ahead of him, simples. Add this to the fact that Mama is far better bloke (much lower wages, never grumbles and puts his body on the line every week when asked to do so) and you'll see why Tuncay needs to go. Edit: Yeah he certainly looked the buisness against ... Blackpool |
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Post by RINGO STARR on May 17, 2010 15:38:43 GMT
That statistic about us winning when Mama doesn't play is a complete load of bollocks. I seem to recall us doing rather well last season when he got injured and Beattie came in and saved the day.
Its all well and good saying that Mama is better suited to our playing style when all we do with Mama is launch balls at him for him to flick on. I'd also like to see a statistic of how many headers he doesn't win in the Premier League. He was effective in the Championship doing this flick on for Fuller but it just doesn't was with Premier League defenders. How many goals have we scored in two years as a result of the Mama flick on for Fuller? I can't think of many?
I for one can not fault the professionalism of the man and the effort that he puts in on a matchday. In reality though, the bloke isn't good enough and can't score goals and offers little in assits that people make out. Therefore, I wouldn't have him starting many games for my team if I was manager.
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Post by PickSCFC on May 17, 2010 15:41:05 GMT
That statistic about us winning when Mama doesn't play is a complete load of bollocks. I seem to recall us doing rather well last season when he got injured and Beattie came in and saved the day. Its all well and good saying that Mama is better suited to our playing style when all we do with Mama is launch balls at him for him to flick on. I'd also like to see a statistic of how many headers he doesn't win in the Premier League. He was effective in the Championship doing this flick on for Fuller but it just doesn't was with Premier League defenders. How many goals have we scored in two years as a result of the Mama flick on for Fuller? I can't think of many? I for one can not fault the professionalism of the man and the effort that he puts in on a matchday. In reality though, the bloke isn't good enough and can't score goals and offers little in assits that people make out. Therefore, I wouldn't have him starting many games for my team if I was manager. when mama got injured in the 1st season in the prem our results took a nose dive but beattie came in who can play the mama role and score goals so your argument is worthless |
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Post by RINGO STARR on May 17, 2010 15:44:12 GMT
If you were picking up £20k a week for being a Premier League player knowing that you've never scored goals at any level-you'd certainly keep your head down, make sure you didn't moan and ran your sack off every week.
I can't recall many games where Tuncay hasn't given us his 100% effort. The bloke runs his bollocks off for the team.
If I'm being totally 100% honest, I'll admit that he's not been as effective as I'd liked him to have been but I know that if we use him to his potential, give him the right service and a proper run in the team we'll see a completly different player to the one we saw last season.
I still find it hard to believe that people want a player with his quality and effort shipped out. Some of you are retards but your opinions do make me laugh.
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Post by RINGO STARR on May 17, 2010 15:48:50 GMT
when mama got injured in the 1st season in the prem our results took a nose dive but beattie came in who can play the mama role and score goals so your argument is worthless[/quote]
Worthless? You're saying that without Mama we don't win as if he's the footballing messiah. Yet when we got a 'normal' premier league standard striker in (Beattie) who can do the 'normal' things that Mama does like heading on and holding the ball up we started to improve. Contradictory to say the least.
The whole point of this is that Mama doesn't score goals. His job is to score goals if he's down as a striker on the books. His scoring record is woeful. Shocking. Awful. Thats why he shouldn't be selected.
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Post by Cyprusdelilah on May 17, 2010 15:52:23 GMT
Sidibe is more effective in our current side than Tuncay What has Tuncay done for us? What has Mama done for us? Mama wins hands down everytime and its time we shipped Tuncay back to Kebab City Scored double the league goals Sidibe as. |
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Post by oaties on May 17, 2010 15:55:04 GMT
Fuck me alot of people on here have some low expectations of our club and players, i really hope you don't follow this on into your personal lives.
He is up there as one of the worst players in this league. He has no pace, can't shoot, can't tackle, can't pass, wins very few headers and generally looks like he has no control over his own legs.
He really is a laughing stock yet so many on here praise him, laughable! Do we still have our heads back 5/6 seasons ago when we were a mid table Championship side at best?
All I here is he tries hard, plays with a smile, great character! Well wouldnt you run alot and be beaming from ear to ear if you were robbing your employer of many thousands a week knowing full well you are simply not good at your job, not just at this level but most levels.
It's an insult to the knowledgeable fans out there...
Best part is these are the same people who get excited over the thought of us starting with such players as Carrick, Ireland, Cole, Parker, Noble etc... I'm sure they'd love to come Stoke when they look at our regular starting 11 with such legends as, all i can do is throw Rory, 1 in 5 games Whelan and bambi on ice Mamma.
Get a grip....
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Post by oaties on May 17, 2010 15:55:46 GMT
I don't buy into the character assassination of the bloke - he is obviously a good bloke and team man. Fact is he is a very poor Premier League footballer. if thats the case then how come he keeps getting picked Probably because we have a manager so scared of quality football and skill that hard working donkeys always get the nod. |
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Post by oaties on May 17, 2010 15:57:07 GMT
he wasn't even playing against Fulham was he ?? wasnt he just jumping up and down warming up and me messed up his knee ? Whats the difference from when he does play apart from messing his knee up? |
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