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Post by Beardy200 on Mar 11, 2010 0:15:57 GMT
Fuller should be second name on the team sheet...behind Tuncay in my view. But obviously that will never happen. So its either Tuncay or Fuller unfortunately. And any day, absolutely any day id go for Tuncay. You're right, it is unfortunate that it seems to be one or the other up front but for me, and it seems a lot of others, that one will always be Fuller. Tuncay has the flicks and tricks which look good but he also often loses the ball very very cheaply which Fuller very rarely does. His strength and pace is so important to us and that's something that Tuncay will never have. |
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 11, 2010 0:16:15 GMT
Italian Respect to you for following the mighty potters and not jumping on the bandwagon and following Man you or Chelsea. I think your opinion has got something to do with the Italian style of football though. Tuncay is a good ball player and brings others into the play (ala Serie A). Fuller is a more selfish. In Italy Tuncay would get more plaudits because of his play. In England and more importantly for Stoke Fuller is definitely the more effective player. He can beat a man in the blink of an eye. Create a goal out of nothing. His temprament and fitness are the only things that let Fuller down as far as I am concerned. If he sorted those out he would be somewhere like Villa or Spurs. Maybe your right. Maybe we're just used to different styles. Personally i dont see why Tuncay and Fuller cant start together. Fuller is perfectly capable of winning headers if needed as is Tuncay. Put it this way. Using one of them as a "target man" cant be any worse than big mama. ;D Plus a partnership of Fuller and Tuncay has both Strength, pace, good vision etc. great qualities. |
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Mar 11, 2010 0:16:56 GMT
Not exactly world class......I would have said it was a Lescott(?) own goal!........Good player he may be,he isnt a patch on Fuller......especially to Stoke City.
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 11, 2010 0:18:05 GMT
well ive been watching stoke for the last decade. just didnt have a season ticket. The last decade well done  Thanks. I have certainly done well. |
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Post by Akinbadbuy on Mar 11, 2010 0:18:17 GMT
Italian
No offence but if you seriously watch stoke you will see that Fuller is one of the worst headers of a ball you will ever see in your life.
Makes absolutely no effort to win a header at all.
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Post by Beardy200 on Mar 11, 2010 0:18:57 GMT
Yes I agree that Tuncay is on a different level to Fuller.....But a lot lower!....Fuller is stronger in every department.....Touch,pace,skill,strength...etc......You must watch a different game. pff i just dont understand...Tuncay is definitely better than Fuller. Tuncay is so fast and doesnt even have a position he is that good, just drifts around. Plus some of his finishes i.e. numerous bycicle kicks he has scored are world class. Fuller is always designated a position. This proves you're obviously seeing things you want to see and not the truth i'm afraid fella. In a race over 30 yards Fuller would leave Tuncay miles behind. Tuncay is NOT quick at all mate. |
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 11, 2010 0:19:12 GMT
Not exactly world class......I would have said it was a Lescott(?) own goal!........Good player he may be,he isnt a patch on Fuller......especially to Stoke City. Dont think you realise what your saying. It was a great goal anyone at that game will say so. Your just trying to put Tuncay down to highlight your point that Fuller is better than him. |
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Post by french toast on Mar 11, 2010 0:19:29 GMT
the reason tone wont play fuller and tunc together is because we have not got the quality in midfield to leave two up top, tunc will work but he wouldnt do the horrible work that sidibe has to do, if we had quality down the right hand side and a decent ball player in the centre, i think you would see them two together more often
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 11, 2010 0:20:49 GMT
pff i just dont understand...Tuncay is definitely better than Fuller. Tuncay is so fast and doesnt even have a position he is that good, just drifts around. Plus some of his finishes i.e. numerous bycicle kicks he has scored are world class. Fuller is always designated a position. This proves you're obviously seeing things you want to see and not the truth i'm afraid fella. In a straght race over 30 yards Fuller would leave Tuncay miles behind. Tuncay is NOT quick at all mate. How is he "not quick". Shit i dont get this board at all. Alright well just remember next time Tuncay scores and scores again for Stoke etcetcetc, what ive said, your all clearly trying to say the same thing. |
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 11, 2010 0:21:39 GMT
Italian No offence but if you seriously watch stoke you will see that Fuller is one of the worst headers of a ball you will ever see in your life. Makes absolutely no effort to win a header at all. You are taking the piss? Fuller has scored about 6 goals this year in total, i cant remember one that wasnt a header????? What the fuck!!!!!!!! were you joking? |
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Mar 11, 2010 0:22:32 GMT
Not exactly world class......I would have said it was a Lescott(?) own goal!........Good player he may be,he isnt a patch on Fuller......especially to Stoke City. Dont think you realise what your saying. It was a great goal anyone at that game will say so. Your just trying to put Tuncay down to highlight your point that Fuller is better than him. I know exactly what Im saying.........It was a routine clearance off the line by Lescott but he buggered it up! .......I dont need to highlight the fact that Fuller is better,its patently obvious to the majority of supporters. |
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Post by french toast on Mar 11, 2010 0:23:14 GMT
Italian No offence but if you seriously watch stoke you will see that Fuller is one of the worst headers of a ball you will ever see in your life. Makes absolutely no effort to win a header at all. You are taking the piss? Fuller has scored about 6 goals this year in total, i cant remember one that wasnt a header????? What the fuck!!!!!!!! were you joking? he means flick ons in the target man role, not goal scoring headers |
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Mar 11, 2010 0:23:33 GMT
Italian No offence but if you seriously watch stoke you will see that Fuller is one of the worst headers of a ball you will ever see in your life. Makes absolutely no effort to win a header at all. You are taking the piss? Fuller has scored about 6 goals this year in total, i cant remember one that wasnt a header????? What the fuck!!!!!!!! were you joking? Pompey at home........ |
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Post by Beardy200 on Mar 11, 2010 0:23:44 GMT
This proves you're obviously seeing things you want to see and not the truth i'm afraid fella. In a straght race over 30 yards Fuller would leave Tuncay miles behind. Tuncay is NOT quick at all mate. How is he "not quick". Shit i dont get this board at all. Alright well just remember next time Tuncay scores and scores again for Stoke etcetcetc, what ive said, your all clearly trying to say the same thing. Don't know what you want me to say really mate. Tuncay is not quick. I like him, he's a quality player and have said i too would like BOTH of them to play but we're comparing him to Fuller here and YOU brought up Tuncay's pace as a comparative asset. Fuller is miles quicker than Tuncay and it's not even close in my opinion. And perhaps we're all saying the same thing for a reason and it's not just to wind you up i can assure you.  |
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 11, 2010 0:23:51 GMT
Dont think you realise what your saying. It was a great goal anyone at that game will say so. Your just trying to put Tuncay down to highlight your point that Fuller is better than him. I know exactly what Im saying.........It was a routine clearance off the line by Lescott but he buggered it up! .......I dont need to highlight the fact that Fuller is better,its patently obvious to the majority of supporters. Fuckin hell no wonder Italy are world champions and not England. ;D |
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Post by Akinbadbuy on Mar 11, 2010 0:24:02 GMT
Italian
Fuller is 10 times quicker than Tuncay, that is a fact.
Fullers pace is lightning quick when he lets it go.
Theyre both good players but for different reasons.
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 11, 2010 0:25:23 GMT
Sidibe can go to weatherspoons in Stoke on trent city centre whilst the match is on for all i care. Hes a very poor player, and i really think hes a nice guy and im sure hes very down to earth, but hes just no good. as for the debate, i just dont get why every one is going mad about how Fuller has to be first name on the teamsheet. I just dont think hes had a great season so far. He should be second name on the team sheet...behind Tuncay in my view. But obviously that will never happen. So its either Tuncay or Fuller unfortunately. And any day, absolutely any day id go for Tuncay. Theres good reason why Tuncay has been linked to Liverpool and villa in the summer and why Fenerbahce want him back. Who has Fuller been linked with? All im saying is for me Tuncay is on another level to Fuller. A completely different level. That Sidibe cross highlighted it all tonight when he took a step back, lost his marker and Sidibe didnt read it. Has Tuncay had a "great season" in your book Italian? I'm not convinced that any of the sides you mention seriously wanted him in the summer (if they did, he wouldn't be here) there's no doubting Tuncay's ability but you have to factor in how we play and Fuller is an integral part of that. Think of the great results we've had over the past few seasons and tell me how many Fuller wasn't a key part of? No i dont believe Tuncay has had a great season BY HIS STANDARDS. Which says something considering hes our top scorer in the league. Just wait till he starts performing some of you will be eating words. |
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Mar 11, 2010 0:25:32 GMT
I know exactly what Im saying.........It was a routine clearance off the line by Lescott but he buggered it up! .......I dont need to highlight the fact that Fuller is better,its patently obvious to the majority of supporters. Fuckin hell no wonder Italy are world champions and not England. ;D I try to forget how they bored us to death in the last world cup.... |
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Post by Akinbadbuy on Mar 11, 2010 0:26:37 GMT
Italian
Im not taking the piss!!
If you seriously watch stoke then you will see that heading aint Fullers strong point.
He is 100 times better with his feet.
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Post by smithy27 on Mar 11, 2010 0:26:53 GMT
there is no reason why Tuncay and Fuller could not play together as they are by far the best 2 forwards at Stoke
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2010 0:27:14 GMT
I know exactly what Im saying.........It was a routine clearance off the line by Lescott but he buggered it up! .......I dont need to highlight the fact that Fuller is better,its patently obvious to the majority of supporters. Fuckin hell no wonder Italy are world champions and not England. ;D Not for long chief. |
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 11, 2010 0:27:41 GMT
Italian Fuller is 10 times quicker than Tuncay, that is a fact. Fullers pace is lightning quick when he lets it go. Theyre both good players but for different reasons. Well to say Tuncay is not fast is just not true at all. When he gets his head down hes rapid. That was perfectly clear during his time at Boro. Not saying hes faster than Fuller, hes not, but hes very fast. Whenever he chases down the keeper hes on to him so quickly. Fuller never even bothers. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2010 0:28:32 GMT
Has Tuncay had a "great season" in your book Italian? I'm not convinced that any of the sides you mention seriously wanted him in the summer (if they did, he wouldn't be here) there's no doubting Tuncay's ability but you have to factor in how we play and Fuller is an integral part of that. Think of the great results we've had over the past few seasons and tell me how many Fuller wasn't a key part of? No i dont believe Tuncay has had a great season BY HIS STANDARDS. Which says something considering hes our top scorer in the league. Just wait till he starts performing some of you will be eating words. He hasn't had a great season by Stoke's standards either. He's been good, shown promise, but he's not been consistent and it's still not clear how he fits into our set up. |
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 11, 2010 0:28:53 GMT
Fuckin hell no wonder Italy are world champions and not England. ;D Not for long chief. We shall see. England will be lucky to beat Algeria with that squad!! Although it might look better if Etherington was in it. |
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Post by Akinbadbuy on Mar 11, 2010 0:29:04 GMT
As for Italy winning the World Cup well that was the weakest World Cup for a long time.
I prefer to look at club form. Look how Man U demolished AC Milan tonight. Look how Chelsea will demolish Mourinhos Inter.
Serie A is a long way behind the Premiership and you know it.
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 11, 2010 0:30:41 GMT
No i dont believe Tuncay has had a great season BY HIS STANDARDS. Which says something considering hes our top scorer in the league. Just wait till he starts performing some of you will be eating words. He hasn't had a great season by Stoke's standards either. He's been good, shown promise, but he's not been consistent and it's still not clear how he fits into our set up. Spot on i dont think he fits into the set up that well. and it is very possible i think that at Stoke we will never see him at the top of his game, because of the way we play. Maybe he would be suited at a club that pass it more, maybe a Tottenham or something. I just hope he stays with us in the summer. |
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Post by Akinbadbuy on Mar 11, 2010 0:30:50 GMT
Yes because Fullers main fault is that he can be lazy at times I admit, but he is still much quicker than Tuncay will ever be.
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Post by Beardy200 on Mar 11, 2010 0:31:17 GMT
Italian Fuller is 10 times quicker than Tuncay, that is a fact. Fullers pace is lightning quick when he lets it go. Theyre both good players but for different reasons. Well to say Tuncay is not fast is just not true at all. When he gets his head down hes rapid. That was perfectly clear during his time at Boro. Not saying hes faster than Fuller, hes not, but hes very fast. Whenever he chases down the keeper hes on to him so quickly. Fuller never even bothers. We'll have to agree to disagree then mate. His legs move quickly and his hair waves around but he's definitely not "rapid" and i've yet to see him skin any centre halves or full backs for pace here or at Boro. He has lots of assets to his game but pace isn't one of them. Fuller on the other hand does it regularly. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2010 0:31:38 GMT
Not for long chief. We shall see. England will be lucky to beat Algeria with that squad!! Although it might look better if Etherington was in it. England won't win it. Neither will Italy. |
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Post by Beardy200 on Mar 11, 2010 0:32:12 GMT
Not for long chief. We shall see. England will be lucky to beat Algeria with that squad!! Although it might look better if Etherington was in it. What the fuck has Italy got to do with comparing Fuller and Tuncay? ;D |
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