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Post by BraveSirRobin on Mar 10, 2010 23:51:06 GMT
I think tonight proved how much we missed our talisman.There may be people on here who think he is just a lazy primadonna but if anyone had his strength on the ball that he has tonight,we would have ripped Burnley apart.
He is a footballer.
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Post by keithy george on Mar 10, 2010 23:55:07 GMT
I think tonight proved how much we missed our talisman.There may be people on here who think he is just a lazy primadonna but if anyone had his strength on the ball that he has tonight,we would have ripped Burnley apart. He is a footballer.
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 10, 2010 23:55:55 GMT
No , people keep looking for Fuller as a reason every day we dont win a game and hes not on the pitch. Tonight was a good result, Burnley have lost only 3 times at home all year i think. So suppose Fuller played tonight, that would have meant Tuncay on the bench. Fuller has scored 1 goal all year in the league so what makes you think hed randomly turn up and score 2 goals tonight?
Fuller is being massively talked up recently. The blokes got a goal all season. He also set up one against Portsmouth which was good. Hes a good player, but hes been at Stoke for about 4 years, and people have recently been acting like hes some sort of savior.
Likelyhood is if he played tonight we could well have lost as Tuncay would not have started.
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 10, 2010 23:58:19 GMT
Hes a very good player for Stoke, im not disputing that. But he is no Ronaldo. For the amount of appearences hes made this year i think hes got the worst goalscoring record in the whole division for a striker. Just thought id throw that in the equation. He had a great season last year as well, scored many more goals than this campaign.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Mar 10, 2010 23:58:22 GMT
Likelyhood we would have won because that defence was there to be got at and there is no-one better at that than Fuller.
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Post by Akinbadbuy on Mar 10, 2010 23:58:30 GMT
Its all about opinions and mine is a fit Fuller has to be the first name on the team sheet. Only player in the entire squad able to create something from nothing so for that reason alone he starts.
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Post by Akinbadbuy on Mar 10, 2010 23:59:29 GMT
Italian Your not taking into account the way stoke setup. Its not as if anyone else is lighting up the scoring charts is it.
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 10, 2010 23:59:31 GMT
Its all about opinions and mine is a fit Fuller has to be the first name on the team sheet. Only player in the entire squad able to create something from nothing so for that reason alone he starts. and youd prefer Tunci on the bench? Thing is, Fuller is good off the bench, really good, where as Tuncay is not an impact player, Fuller is. Just my view.
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 11, 2010 0:00:41 GMT
Italian Your not taking into account the way stoke setup. Its not as if anyone else is lighting up the scoring charts is it. Your implying drop Tuncay for Fuller? Tuncay is our top scorer, how am i wrong in my argument. Tuncay =4 goals Fuller=1 i repeat Tuncay=4 Fuller=1 ;D
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2010 0:01:34 GMT
No , people keep looking for Fuller as a reason every day we dont win a game and hes not on the pitch. Tonight was a good result, Burnley have lost only 3 times at home all year i think. So suppose Fuller played tonight, that would have meant Tuncay on the bench. Fuller has scored 1 goal all year in the league so what makes you think hed randomly turn up and score 2 goals tonight? Fuller is being massively talked up recently. The blokes got a goal all season. He also set up one against Portsmouth which was good. Hes a good player, but hes been at Stoke for about 4 years, and people have recently been acting like hes some sort of savior. Likelyhood is if he played tonight we could well have lost as Tuncay would not have started. Mate - Fuller has been miles better than Tuncay for Stoke so far. I know it's not a fair comparison because Tuncay hasn't been here long, but given how we play, Fuller is way more important to us than Tuncay. If I could only start one of them, it would be the Jamaican. You harp on about "only one goal", but Fuller's contribution is way more than that. Like birly says, he's our talisman. The team has way more confidence and belief with him on the field. How many of the throws and corners which we rely on come from his pace and trickery? We look infinitely less like scoring in his absence.
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Post by Beardy200 on Mar 11, 2010 0:01:33 GMT
If Fuller is fit he's the first name on the sheet and nothing anybody can say will ever change my mind with our current players and set-up.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Mar 11, 2010 0:01:43 GMT
Thats crap....Fuller is the type of player you ALWAYS play from the start!
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Post by Akinbadbuy on Mar 11, 2010 0:02:08 GMT
I like Tuncay, but I think Fuller suits Stokes style of play better. Tuncay needs quality service, something stoke dont provide. Fuller will get a goal from nothing thats the difference.
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Post by keithy george on Mar 11, 2010 0:02:11 GMT
Its all about opinions and mine is a fit Fuller has to be the first name on the team sheet. Only player in the entire squad able to create something from nothing so for that reason alone he starts. and youd prefer Tunci on the bench? Thing is, Fuller is good off the bench, really good, where as Tuncay is not an impact player, Fuller is. Just my view. Sidibe on the bench or in the dressing room ;D
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Mar 11, 2010 0:02:36 GMT
Who is this Birly fella?
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Post by Akinbadbuy on Mar 11, 2010 0:04:45 GMT
Italian
Dont always let the stats do the talking where Stoke are concerned. Fuller is immense for Stoke. He does things Tuncay could only dream of. Dont get me wrong I like Tuncay but I think he needs better service.
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 11, 2010 0:06:36 GMT
Sidibe can go to weatherspoons in Stoke on trent city centre whilst the match is on for all i care. Hes a very poor player, and i really think hes a nice guy and im sure hes very down to earth, but hes just no good.
as for the debate, i just dont get why every one is going mad about how Fuller has to be first name on the teamsheet. I just dont think hes had a great season so far. He should be second name on the team sheet...behind Tuncay in my view. But obviously that will never happen. So its either Tuncay or Fuller unfortunately. And any day, absolutely any day id go for Tuncay.
Theres good reason why Tuncay has been linked to Liverpool and villa in the summer and why Fenerbahce want him back. Who has Fuller been linked with?
All im saying is for me Tuncay is on another level to Fuller. A completely different level. That Sidibe cross highlighted it all tonight when he took a step back, lost his marker and Sidibe didnt read it.
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 11, 2010 0:07:53 GMT
By the way, if your thinking i dont watch stoke, im not just some Italian guy who lives in Italy and doesnt watch Stoke. Im living in England at the moment and have had a season ticket for the past 3 seasons.
;D
So i do know what Fuller is all about.
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Post by french toast on Mar 11, 2010 0:08:49 GMT
Sidibe can go to weatherspoons in Stoke on trent city centre whilst the match is on for all i care. Hes a very poor player, and i really think hes a nice guy and im sure hes very down to earth, but hes just no good. as for the debate, i just dont get why every one is going mad about how Fuller has to be first name on the teamsheet. I just dont think hes had a great season so far. He should be second name on the team sheet...behind Tuncay in my view. But obviously that will never happen. So its either Tuncay or Fuller unfortunately. And any day, absolutely any day id go for Tuncay. Theres good reason why Tuncay has been linked to Liverpool and villa in the summer and why Fenerbahce want him back. Who has Fuller been linked with? All im saying is for me Tuncay is on another level to Fuller. A completely different level. That Sidibe cross highlighted it all tonight when he took a step back, lost his marker and Sidibe didnt read it. if it wasnt for his knees fuller would be at a top club, no doubt about it.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Mar 11, 2010 0:09:37 GMT
Sidibe can go to weatherspoons in Stoke on trent city centre whilst the match is on for all i care. Hes a very poor player, and i really think hes a nice guy and im sure hes very down to earth, but hes just no good. as for the debate, i just dont get why every one is going mad about how Fuller has to be first name on the teamsheet. I just dont think hes had a great season so far. He should be second name on the team sheet...behind Tuncay in my view. But obviously that will never happen. So its either Tuncay or Fuller unfortunately. And any day, absolutely any day id go for Tuncay. Theres good reason why Tuncay has been linked to Liverpool and villa in the summer and why Fenerbahce want him back. Who has Fuller been linked with? All im saying is for me Tuncay is on another level to Fuller. A completely different level. That Sidibe cross highlighted it all tonight when he took a step back, lost his marker and Sidibe didnt read it. Yes I agree that Tuncay is on a different level to Fuller.....But a lot lower!....Fuller is stronger in every department.....Touch,pace,skill,strength...etc......You must watch a different game.
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 11, 2010 0:10:39 GMT
Im definitely not denying Fuller is a very good player. But lets face it TP will never change his system. Its either Tuncay or Fuller, and in my view, id go Tuncay every week.
But im clearly the only who thinks this which is perhaps why im not manager of the Italian national team. Although Lippi has lost the plot recently, i think i could do better.
;D
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Post by keithy george on Mar 11, 2010 0:11:01 GMT
By the way, if your thinking i dont watch stoke, im not just some Italian guy who lives in Italy and doesnt watch Stoke. Im living in England at the moment and have had a season ticket for the past 3 seasons. ;D So i do know what Fuller is all about. 3 seasons hey well done
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 11, 2010 0:12:16 GMT
Sidibe can go to weatherspoons in Stoke on trent city centre whilst the match is on for all i care. Hes a very poor player, and i really think hes a nice guy and im sure hes very down to earth, but hes just no good. as for the debate, i just dont get why every one is going mad about how Fuller has to be first name on the teamsheet. I just dont think hes had a great season so far. He should be second name on the team sheet...behind Tuncay in my view. But obviously that will never happen. So its either Tuncay or Fuller unfortunately. And any day, absolutely any day id go for Tuncay. Theres good reason why Tuncay has been linked to Liverpool and villa in the summer and why Fenerbahce want him back. Who has Fuller been linked with? All im saying is for me Tuncay is on another level to Fuller. A completely different level. That Sidibe cross highlighted it all tonight when he took a step back, lost his marker and Sidibe didnt read it. Yes I agree that Tuncay is on a different level to Fuller.....But a lot lower!....Fuller is stronger in every department.....Touch,pace,skill,strength...etc......You must watch a different game. pff i just dont understand...Tuncay is definitely better than Fuller. Tuncay is so fast and doesnt even have a position he is that good, just drifts around. Plus some of his finishes i.e. numerous bycicle kicks he has scored are world class. Fuller is always designated a position.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Mar 11, 2010 0:12:39 GMT
Tuncays first touch is a bit shocking........discuss
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 11, 2010 0:13:32 GMT
By the way, if your thinking i dont watch stoke, im not just some Italian guy who lives in Italy and doesnt watch Stoke. Im living in England at the moment and have had a season ticket for the past 3 seasons. ;D So i do know what Fuller is all about. 3 seasons hey well done well ive been watching stoke for the last decade. just didnt have a season ticket.
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Post by Akinbadbuy on Mar 11, 2010 0:13:40 GMT
Italian
Respect to you for following the mighty potters and not jumping on the bandwagon and following Man U or Chelsea. I think your opinion has got something to do with the Italian style of football though. Tuncay is a good ball player and brings others into the play (ala Serie A). Fuller is a more selfish. In Italy Tuncay would get more plaudits because of his play. In England and more importantly for Stoke Fuller is definitely the more effective player. He can beat a man in the blink of an eye. Create a goal out of nothing. His temprament and fitness are the only things that let Fuller down as far as I am concerned. If he sorted those out he would be somewhere like Villa or Spurs.
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 11, 2010 0:14:08 GMT
Tuncays first touch is a bit shocking........discuss yeah but then his second and third touch is world class as is evident in Man City cup game...discuss.
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Post by french toast on Mar 11, 2010 0:14:41 GMT
fuller retains the ball much better, has a better first touch, has a better shot, can be left up top on his own when mama is pushed back to make a five man midfield and still make things happen
tunny is good just not as good as fuller for us, it will be a really fucked up day when that bloke retires, we will never replace him, and if we do fond a replacement, we will be looking at 20 million
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2010 0:15:23 GMT
Sidibe can go to weatherspoons in Stoke on trent city centre whilst the match is on for all i care. Hes a very poor player, and i really think hes a nice guy and im sure hes very down to earth, but hes just no good. as for the debate, i just dont get why every one is going mad about how Fuller has to be first name on the teamsheet. I just dont think hes had a great season so far. He should be second name on the team sheet...behind Tuncay in my view. But obviously that will never happen. So its either Tuncay or Fuller unfortunately. And any day, absolutely any day id go for Tuncay. Theres good reason why Tuncay has been linked to Liverpool and villa in the summer and why Fenerbahce want him back. Who has Fuller been linked with? All im saying is for me Tuncay is on another level to Fuller. A completely different level. That Sidibe cross highlighted it all tonight when he took a step back, lost his marker and Sidibe didnt read it. Has Tuncay had a "great season" in your book Italian? I'm not convinced that any of the sides you mention seriously wanted him in the summer (if they did, he wouldn't be here) there's no doubting Tuncay's ability but you have to factor in how we play and Fuller is an integral part of that. Think of the great results we've had over the past few seasons and tell me how many Fuller wasn't a key part of?
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Post by keithy george on Mar 11, 2010 0:15:31 GMT
3 seasons hey well done well ive been watching stoke for the last decade. just didnt have a season ticket. The last decade well done
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