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Post by italianstokie on Mar 10, 2010 21:57:12 GMT
;D
What a player, what a goal, great effort from all the players. All those after the Chelsea game saying Tuncay should be dropped etc, well....hes probably our best player isnt he, never gave up all night. Its mad hes quite small but is really good in the air, has scored a few headers this year now.
Anyway, decent result, not great but not bad either. Interesting to see Moult come on too. Had a nice touch on him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2010 21:59:37 GMT
I didn't think he was our best player tonight.
He was comfortably our main goal threat and taking him off waved the white flag that we weren't interested in winning the game.
Yet he still seems on a different wavelength to the rest of the team in many ways and some of his runs seem to take him out of dangerous positions rather than into them.
Fine header for the goal and full of running, but somehow frustrating at the same time.
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 10, 2010 22:01:20 GMT
I didn't think he was our best player tonight. He was comfortably our main goal threat and taking him off waved the white flag that we weren't interested in winning the game. Yet he still seems on a different wavelength to the rest of the team in many ways and some of his runs seem to take him out of dangerous positions rather than into them. Fine header for the goal and full of running, but somehow frustrating at the same time. I do know what you mean, i reckon its just the style of play, nothing more. With respect to Mama, he is never going to be on the same wavelength as Tuncay. But that Rory throw he was, and looked what happened, flicked it on to Tunci who powered the fucker home. ;D |
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Post by march4 on Mar 10, 2010 22:02:00 GMT
He looks better up front alongside Mama than he does on the flank.
I wonder if Ric is going to be out for a while.
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Post by lordb on Mar 10, 2010 22:03:26 GMT
certainly gets involved more as a striker.
He's has better games.
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 10, 2010 22:04:49 GMT
Yeah i think Ric will not play on Saturday, fit or not. Tuncay has to start starting at home. If he plays anywhere close to the way he played in the snow against Fulham, then i think we can beat Villa.
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 10, 2010 22:05:39 GMT
Obviously itd be good to see Tuncay and Fuller together, but we've been talking about that for years and it will never happen. Think id keep it all the same against Villa maybe drop Lawrence though he looked shite yet again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2010 22:05:53 GMT
We missed Fuller enormously today. He'd have had a field day against Cort and Carlisle I reckon.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2010 22:06:52 GMT
Play tunk up front and he looks the player we thought we'd signed.
Play tunk on the wing and he looks like a player we wish we hadn't signed.
ah
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 10, 2010 22:07:50 GMT
We missed Fuller enormously today. He'd have had a field day against Cort and Carlisle I reckon. True. But it's like night and day when he doesn't play. Tunch was nice and bright - but Fuller gives us so much more up there. |
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 10, 2010 22:07:58 GMT
Thing is, what do you do when both Tuncay and Fuller are fit? Because Tuncay scores more goals in the league, but Fuller as we know is a handful, and bearing in mind Pulis will never play them together, what do we do. Tuncay is wasted on the wing, unless we play a fast passing game which we done Tunci is no good on the wing.
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Post by longtonstokie on Mar 10, 2010 22:08:03 GMT
I suppose Sidibe will be first on the team sheet!
Longton.
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Post by march4 on Mar 10, 2010 22:10:11 GMT
I suppose Sidibe will be first on the team sheet! Longton. Of course. There is no other option for the Mama position until we sign Drogba. |
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Post by serpico on Mar 10, 2010 22:10:32 GMT
I could be wrong, but Tunny appeared to be limping at the end of the game, so perhaps that substitution was forced ? if not it was a bizarre decision to bring him of at 1-1 with 10 odd minutes to go .
Is Tunny our top scorer now ?
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 10, 2010 22:10:42 GMT
I suppose Sidibe will be first on the team sheet! Longton. I think his name will be first on the teamsheet for the next decade at least. |
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 10, 2010 22:11:57 GMT
I could be wrong, but Tunny appeared to be limping at the end of the game, so perhaps that substitution was forced ? if not it was a bizarre decision to bring him of at 1-1 with 10 odd minutes to go . Shit, thats bad i didnt notice to be honest. Well, if Fuller and Tuncay are both out v Villa then we're fucked. Thing is, i thought he was just resting him ahead of the Villa game with it being only 3 days away. Maybe im wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2010 22:12:42 GMT
Thing is, what do you do when both Tuncay and Fuller are fit? Because Tuncay scores more goals in the league, but Fuller as we know is a handful, and bearing in mind Pulis will never play them together, what do we do. Tuncay is wasted on the wing, unless we play a fast passing game which we done Tunci is no good on the wing. We look far worse without Fuller in the team. If Fuller's fit, he plays as far as I'm concerned. |
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 10, 2010 22:12:54 GMT
I could be wrong, but Tunny appeared to be limping at the end of the game, so perhaps that substitution was forced ? if not it was a bizarre decision to bring him of at 1-1 with 10 odd minutes to go . Is Tunny our top scorer now ? yes with 4 league goals. he should set himself a target of around 8 or 9 i reckon for the end of the season. |
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Post by march4 on Mar 10, 2010 22:13:53 GMT
I suppose Sidibe will be first on the team sheet! Longton. I think his name will be first on the teamsheet for the next decade at least. A convert ;D |
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 10, 2010 22:16:54 GMT
Thing is, what do you do when both Tuncay and Fuller are fit? Because Tuncay scores more goals in the league, but Fuller as we know is a handful, and bearing in mind Pulis will never play them together, what do we do. Tuncay is wasted on the wing, unless we play a fast passing game which we done Tunci is no good on the wing. We look far worse without Fuller in the team. If Fuller's fit, he plays as far as I'm concerned. Fullers good, but had he played tonight i dont reckon the result would have been any different. We might not have scored at all. Depends if he fancied it. |
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Post by serpico on Mar 10, 2010 22:17:21 GMT
Tunny made some excellent runs today, he played some intelligent passes as well, but he's often on a different wave length than some of the other players, perhaps he's a little too good at times ? IE in the second half Mama burst down the flank and Tunny pulled back away from Burnleys defence, but Mama totally misread what Tunny was trying to do and he put the ball into the 6 yard box, instead of pulling it back towards the penalty spot.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2010 22:17:58 GMT
We look far worse without Fuller in the team. If Fuller's fit, he plays as far as I'm concerned. Fullers good, but had he played tonight i dont reckon the result would have been any different. We might not have scored at all. Depends if he fancied it. If he's on the pitch we always look infinitely more dangerous. He can change a game in the blink of an eye. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2010 22:21:08 GMT
Tunny made some excellent runs today, he played some intelligent passes as well, but he's often on a different wave length than some of the other players, perhaps he's a little too good at times ? IE in the second half Mama burst down the flank and Tunny pulled back away from Burnleys defence, but Mama totally misread what Tunny was trying to do and he put the ball into the 6 yard box, instead of pulling it back towards the penalty spot. Interesting, serps. I read that completely the other way around. Mama did really well out wide and put in a great cross into the 6-yard box (like the Arse game for Fuller). Tunk - not being a natural goalscorer, but more of a creative forward - didn't do the right thing and stopped his run ... As if we had another forward steaming in. Funny how people see things differently. Anyrode, I dunner think either of us - nor Tunk/Mama - is/was right or wrong. ah |
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 10, 2010 22:23:39 GMT
Tunny made some excellent runs today, he played some intelligent passes as well, but he's often on a different wave length than some of the other players, perhaps he's a little too good at times ? IE in the second half Mama burst down the flank and Tunny pulled back away from Burnleys defence, but Mama totally misread what Tunny was trying to do and he put the ball into the 6 yard box, instead of pulling it back towards the penalty spot. Interesting, serps. I read that completely the other way around. Mama did really well out wide and put in a great cross into the 6-yard box (like the Arse game for Fuller). Tunk - not being a natural goalscorer, but more of a creative forward - didn't do the right thing and stopped his run ... As if we had another forward steaming in. Funny how people see things differently. Anyrode, I dunner think either of us - nor Tunk/Mama - is/was right or wrong. ah it was a nice ball in from mama but if he pulled it back tuncay had lost his marker and would have smashed it in ;D |
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Post by ParaPsych on Mar 10, 2010 22:23:59 GMT
"Tunk - not being a natural goalscorer,"
I see your point there, he's not prolific. But he's now our top scorer (league!) and to me he actually looks our most dangerous striker in terms of finding space in the box and getting on the end of crosses.
For me though, Ric offers more overall.
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 10, 2010 22:26:53 GMT
"Tunk - not being a natural goalscorer," I see your point there, he's not prolific. But he's now our top scorer (league!) and to me he actually looks our most dangerous striker in terms of finding space in the box and getting on the end of crosses. For me though, Ric offers more overall. In my view, until they play together we will never get that Europa league spot ;D ;D |
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Post by johnsmithsupper on Mar 10, 2010 22:27:43 GMT
Mama has good memories about playing Villa at home so he'll be in dont you worry yourselves.
Whatever anyone says about Mama, we get results when he plays more often than not, and he provided me with probably the best mental i have had in 33 years watching Stoke against Villa at home last year
Everybody is entitled to their opinion of course but we all may as well bang our head against a brick wall if we think Tony is going to drop Mama.
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Post by italianstokie on Mar 10, 2010 22:29:44 GMT
Mama has good memories about playing Villa at home so he'll be in dont you worry yourselves. Whatever anyone says about Mama, we get results when he plays more often than not, and he provided me with probably the best mental i have had in 33 years watching Stoke against Villa at home last year Everybody is entitled to their opinion of course but we all may as well bang our head against a brick wall if we think Tony is going to drop Mama. Thats true, i was seated in John Smiths and even that was insane. People jumping on each other etc brilliant stuff. I will never forget that goal. But hes still garbage. ;D |
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Post by johnsmithsupper on Mar 10, 2010 22:35:21 GMT
Mama has good memories about playing Villa at home so he'll be in dont you worry yourselves. Whatever anyone says about Mama, we get results when he plays more often than not, and he provided me with probably the best mental i have had in 33 years watching Stoke against Villa at home last year Everybody is entitled to their opinion of course but we all may as well bang our head against a brick wall if we think Tony is going to drop Mama. Thats true, i was seated in John Smiths and even that was insane. People jumping on each other etc brilliant stuff. I will never forget that goal. But hes still garbage. ;D Garbage, but important to the way Pulis asks his team to play i think you meant to say. |
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Post by Beardy200 on Mar 10, 2010 22:41:10 GMT
Tunny made some excellent runs today, he played some intelligent passes as well, but he's often on a different wave length than some of the other players, perhaps he's a little too good at times ? IE in the second half Mama burst down the flank and Tunny pulled back away from Burnleys defence, but Mama totally misread what Tunny was trying to do and he put the ball into the 6 yard box, instead of pulling it back towards the penalty spot. Interesting, serps. I read that completely the other way around. Mama did really well out wide and put in a great cross into the 6-yard box (like the Arse game for Fuller). Tunk - not being a natural goalscorer, but more of a creative forward - didn't do the right thing and stopped his run ... As if we had another forward steaming in. Funny how people see things differently. Anyrode, I dunner think either of us - nor Tunk/Mama - is/was right or wrong. ah Me too mate. Mama looked up and just as he did Tuncay feigned to make a quick sprint to the near post. Then he stopped on the spot and waited on the edge of the box. It's one of those 50-50s where Mama could only guess which option he would take. He went for heads and it came down tails.  |
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