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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Feb 16, 2010 23:53:04 GMT
It was not lost on me the fact that Mancini and Kidd spent the walk back to the chaning rooms at half time discussing things with Alan Wiley. It is no coincidence that after half time, the referee gave almost every decision to Man Citeh. It was not lost on me, that even now I have seen the game again, that Vieria should have received TWO red cards. One for kicking Whelan in the bollocks and the other for elbowing Whitehead in the face. Result? NO BOOKING.
The 3rd incident, the red card for Abdy. Now, I dont give a shit what people are saying, the man should NOT have been sent off. The referee waved away any foul initially. The linesman flagged to get him sent off. Secondly, Collins was actually there to cover if it was a foul, which it wasnt, as Faye clearly got a foot on the ball, hence the fact that it changed direction.
The 4th incident, the penalty claim from Fuller. Lets get this into perspective. If that is Adebayor going down in the box, the referee gives it. Barry is nowhere near the ball and his legs trap fullers and he goes down. Its a stonewall penalty.
The 5th and final incident. I have NEVER been so incensed at complete and utter injusitce at a football match. Not only is the goal TOTALLY legitimate, Shawcross jumps with ARMS AND HANDS DOWN. Given totally mistimes his jump and Ryan simply nods into the net. As Tony Pulis stated, take a look at Kolo Toure's reaction. Head in hands, stamping the floor with his fee, unable to take the fact that his team have lost to TEN men. Says it all for me., This is the reason why I feel that Alan Wiley is corrupt. I would love to know what was said to him at half time. His performance in the 2nd half was nothing short of incompetence. That decision to disallow the goal at the end was the WORST decision I have ever seen. I am simply astounded that he disallowed it. Will he come out and defend his decision.....NO! Will he be taken to task from the referee's comission and FA.....NO! Will he know, deep down, that he has robbed this honest football club, that legitamately won a football match with TEN MEN against the richest club in the world, with pure hard work, endeavour, integrity and downright graft......YES! Will he care..... WILL HE BOLLOCKS! He will be referring this saturday again and will face NO ACTION over such a disgraceful, scandalous and simply incorrect decision. We are all human. We all make mistakes. However, THAT tonight is not just a mistake. IMO, Alan Wiley had his mind made up before the ball hit that net. No way was he going to allow Stoke City to overturn the richest club in the world with TEN MEN and prevent them from reaching 4th place.
Final word: I am so incredibly proud of my team tonight. We took the game to them and we thouroughly deserved all 3 points in the face of total and utter adversity and downright cheating. I am proud of you Stoke, you ae credit to this city and Football overall.
Alan Wiley - He is CORRUPT
SGT
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Post by march4 on Feb 16, 2010 23:55:58 GMT
Brilliant post.
Receive some invisible K.
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Post by keithy george on Feb 16, 2010 23:56:54 GMT
We all know mate, and Ferguson was right, fat unfit little bastard
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Post by lust4life on Feb 16, 2010 23:59:28 GMT
top post lad.....the fat little fucker has to be on there payroll
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Post by keithw8007 on Feb 17, 2010 0:00:21 GMT
Why can't 20,000 fans suggest that he it on the take and never referees a game again ... where do we login? The FA surely must take note?
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Post by foxxy on Feb 17, 2010 0:03:39 GMT
I must admit it even made me wonder as let's face it money talks.
Man City have so much money they could literally offer Alan Wiley anything he wanted.
My mate next to me said as Rory was lining up, "imagine the mental if this goes in"
My reply "Wiley would disallow it", i stood there almost in amazement.
I was sure i must have had my stoke tinted glasses on and missed something as surely one man couldnt be so incompitent.
Having just watched it back, FUCK ME, he absolutley MUST have been given a nice wad of cash from the Sheiks.
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Feb 17, 2010 0:04:41 GMT
Why can't 20,000 fans suggest that he it on the take and never referees a game again ... where do we login? The FA surely must take note? Thats the 2nd most annoying thing about tonight. The total knowledge that the referee will face NO ACTION about a host of incidents, noted in my original thread. The decision is just beyond injustice. It is downright cheating. No other way of describing it. SGT |
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Feb 17, 2010 0:06:00 GMT
I must admit it even made me wonder as let's face it money talks. Man City have so much money they could literally offer Alan Wiley anything he wanted. My mate next to me said as Rory was lining up, "imagine the mental if this goes in" My reply "Wiley would disallow it", i stood there almost in amazement. I was sure i must have had my stoke tinted glasses on and missed something as surely one man couldnt be so incompitent. Having just watched it back, FUCK ME, he absolutley MUST have been given a nice wad of cash from the Sheiks. In my opinion, it is certain. I mean it. SGT |
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Post by craigscfc on Feb 17, 2010 0:06:22 GMT
the fat little brum scum twat lives just down the road from me (in Burntwood) .. Can't wait to bump into him next
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Post by Mr Notherchance on Feb 17, 2010 0:17:48 GMT
I've said in another post that I didn't bother celebrating Ryan's goal as I knew that the ref would not possibly allow a stoppage time winner from crappy little Stoke. I felt a bit sorry for Wiley actually, there really was NOTHING at all in the incident to offer some sort of vindication to the decision. But it is still ten-man Stoke shoving it to the richest club in the world, so he had to do something to stop it.
I wonder what weird and wonderful offences our lads will commit next week to get ourselves knocked out of the cup.
Still, bigger picture and all that. What a superb club we are these days. Fantastic spirit, heart, fight and class. You can't buy that.
Great post by the way.
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Post by AlliG on Feb 17, 2010 0:34:06 GMT
I have allowed myself the drive home and the chance to re-watch the incidents from today's game to consider whether I agree with Nigel Gleghorn that he wasn't corrupt he was just incompetent.
Having given the matter due consideration, I can't believe that Alan Wiley didn't see Viera kick Whelan in the nuts, elbow Whitehead in the face, didn't see Ric and Mama get kicked off the park in the first half, didn't see Barry tread on the back of Ric's leg in the penalty area, saw all those imaginary free kicks in the last 15 minutes and saw the imaginary offence by Ryan at the end.
I can't believe any one official could possibly make so many "innocent" mistakes and therefore I remain firmly of the opinion that the only possible conclusion is that he must be a cheat.
By his actions, he not only cheated the team out of the 3 points they deserved, but also the players out of the ovation that their efforts tonight truly deserved.
I also don't think I have ever heard Tony Pulis display such cold fury and anger as in his interviews both with Nigel and also on Sky. He showed great restraint but I don't think anyone was left with any doubts about what he really thought.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Feb 17, 2010 0:42:38 GMT
Great post have all the invisible karma you want ;D IM STILL INCENSED  |
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 17, 2010 0:54:17 GMT
I have allowed myself the drive home and the chance to re-watch the incidents from today's game to consider whether I agree with Nigel Gleghorn that he wasn't corrupt he was just incompetent. Having given the matter due consideration, I can't believe that Alan Wiley didn't see Viera kick Whelan in the nuts, elbow Whitehead in the face, didn't see Ric and Mama get kicked off the park in the first half, didn't see Barry tread on the back of Ric's leg in the penalty area, saw all those imaginary free kicks in the last 15 minutes and saw the imaginary offence by Ryan at the end. I can't believe any one official could possibly make so many "innocent" mistakes and therefore I remain firmly of the opinion that the only possible conclusion is that he must be a cheat. By his actions, he not only cheated the team out of the 3 points they deserved, but also the players out of the ovation that their efforts tonight truly deserved. I also don't think I have ever heard Tony Pulis display such cold fury and anger as in his interviews both with Nigel and also on Sky. He showed great restraint but I don't think anyone was left with any doubts about what he really thought. It's a big call to label anyone a cheat or even half-heartedly raise it as a remote possibility, but the circumstantial evidence doesn't look good for Mr Wiley, does it? Anyone consistently as outrageously poor as that at their job would be getting the chop. Instead,the very worst Wiley's looking at is reffing Barnsley v Scunthorpe or Doncaster v Plymouth next week. And what have they done to deserve that? |
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Post by bunnyscfc on Feb 17, 2010 1:02:37 GMT
great posts one and all, but what the f*** have Barnsley, Scunthorpe, Donny or Plymouth done to deserve having this absolute weapon of a referee doing their games.
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Post by tampon on Feb 17, 2010 1:05:46 GMT
Well something is seriously wrong either way, either Alan Wiley is indeed a cheat, received some money to turn the game in Man City's favour... or and I think the most worrying possibility is that subconsciously there are referees coming into Stoke games with such a bad image of us in their heads that they can't see any wrong doing towards us and everything we do has some kind of illegal slant on it.
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Post by stokesyboy01 on Feb 17, 2010 1:27:44 GMT
It was not lost on me the fact that Mancini and Kidd spent the walk back to the chaning rooms at half time discussing things with Alan Wiley. It is no coincidence that after half time, the referee gave almost every decision to Man Citeh. It was not lost on me, that even now I have seen the game again, that Vieria should have received TWO red cards. One for kicking Whelan in the bollocks and the other for elbowing Whitehead in the face. Result? NO BOOKING. The 3rd incident, the red card for Abdy. Now, I dont give a shit what people are saying, the man should NOT have been sent off. The referee waved away any foul initially. The linesman flagged to get him sent off. Secondly, Collins was actually there to cover if it was a foul, which it wasnt, as Faye clearly got a foot on the ball, hence the fact that it changed direction. The 4th incident, the penalty claim from Fuller. Lets get this into perspective. If that is Adebayor going down in the box, the referee gives it. Barry is nowhere near the ball and his legs trap fullers and he goes down. Its a stonewall penalty. The 5th and final incident. I have NEVER been so incensed at complete and utter injusitce at a football match. Not only is the goal TOTALLY legitimate, Shawcross jumps with ARMS AND HANDS DOWN. Given totally mistimes his jump and Ryan simply nods into the net. As Tony Pulis stated, take a look at Kolo Toure's reaction. Head in hands, stamping the floor with his fee, unable to take the fact that his team have lost to TEN men. Says it all for me., This is the reason why I feel that Alan Wiley is corrupt. I would love to know what was said to him at half time. His performance in the 2nd half was nothing short of incompetence. That decision to disallow the goal at the end was the WORST decision I have ever seen. I am simply astounded that he disallowed it. Will he come out and defend his decision.....NO! Will he be taken to task from the referee's comission and FA.....NO! Will he know, deep down, that he has robbed this honest football club, that legitamately won a football match with TEN MEN against the richest club in the world, with pure hard work, endeavour, integrity and downright graft......YES! Will he care..... WILL HE BOLLOCKS! He will be referring this saturday again and will face NO ACTION over such a disgraceful, scandalous and simply incorrect decision. We are all human. We all make mistakes. However, THAT tonight is not just a mistake. IMO, Alan Wiley had his mind made up before the ball hit that net. No way was he going to allow Stoke City to overturn the richest club in the world with TEN MEN and prevent them from reaching 4th place. Final word: I am so incredibly proud of my team tonight. We took the game to them and we thouroughly deserved all 3 points in the face of total and utter adversity and downright cheating. I am proud of you Stoke, you ae credit to this city and Football overall. Alan Wiley - He is CORRUPT SGT As an ex referee and know this fat excuse for a referee, your post is spot on and i can confirm that Alan Wiley is corrupt along with many of his fellow referees, they all think they are beyond reproach and answer to no one, time for something to be done about them. |
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Post by StoKeith on Feb 17, 2010 1:28:58 GMT
As Tony Pulis stated, take a look at Kolo Toure's reaction. Head in hands, stamping the floor with his fee, unable to take the fact that his team have lost to TEN men. Brilliant post - couldn't help but smile at that line though!  Was it his fee or the one he was going to give to the ref!   |
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Post by luke45 on Feb 17, 2010 1:33:34 GMT
Can I add the several foul throws by Micah Richards to the list of ineptitudes by the officials today?
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Post by tuum on Feb 17, 2010 6:33:20 GMT
or and I think the most worrying possibility is that subconsciously there are referees coming into Stoke games with such a bad image of us in their heads that they can't see any wrong doing towards us and everything we do has some kind of illegal slant on it.
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I think the above is more likely than the refs being corrupt. However, I think it is just incompetence.
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Post by tassiepotter on Feb 17, 2010 6:53:22 GMT
Quick question but, didn't Wiley disallow a perfectly good goal against Everton at our place last year as well?
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Feb 17, 2010 7:04:34 GMT
No manager or player should be allowed to intimidate the referee within game time like Kidd and Mancini did today at half time. IMO the discussion should be kept between the ref and the captain of each side. If not, a booking. Stoke are genuinely one of the most honest teams in this league. ShawX scored, no argument after the decision and ran back to get back into position. Only at the final whistle did he question the decision. Moral victory today if nothing else, I can't see Vieira escaping a ban and with Citeh's next two league games I expect a reserve team turnout next week.. Then we just have to do Chelski away Our players, manager and supporters were a class act today which sets us apart from most other clubs in this division and for that I am proud! |
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Post by PolPotter on Feb 17, 2010 7:15:01 GMT
He's not good enough! I'd love to break his nose.
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Post by ptownstokie on Feb 17, 2010 7:50:46 GMT
hes a cheat, a protected by f.a. cheat.
If ever a game to highlight the intro of a t.v. ref and referal system same as cricket, it was this one also the siting of players after the game as in rugby, this game had it all, other sports have move on and are using technology to better their sports, fifa sort it fkin out
pissed off
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Post by ColonelMustard on Feb 17, 2010 7:54:51 GMT
If I am right in understanding he's an ex copper, was he staffs? Shouldn't someones profession be taken into account? Polpotter I just caught myself fantasising about breaking his nose. Aggressive fantasy is not normally my thing before breakfast.  |
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Post by staliondal on Feb 17, 2010 8:03:39 GMT
Bang on! Wiley was abysmal. Its about time referees were held accountable. They should be banned, fined or dropped. They should be forced to give an interview to explain there decisions after games.
However, we all know how Alan Wiley will be rewarded for his performance last night, yep, another prem game this weekend!
It seems to me the refs know they can get away with anything. They can't wait to read about the chaos they cause and see there names in the papers the useless waist of fucking space's!
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Post by stone6 on Feb 17, 2010 8:08:01 GMT
It was not lost on me the fact that Mancini and Kidd spent the walk back to the chaning rooms at half time discussing things with Alan Wiley. It is no coincidence that after half time, the referee gave almost every decision to Man Citeh. It was not lost on me, that even now I have seen the game again, that Vieria should have received TWO red cards. One for kicking Whelan in the bollocks and the other for elbowing Whitehead in the face. Result? NO BOOKING. The 3rd incident, the red card for Abdy. Now, I dont give a shit what people are saying, the man should NOT have been sent off. The referee waved away any foul initially. The linesman flagged to get him sent off. Secondly, Collins was actually there to cover if it was a foul, which it wasnt, as Faye clearly got a foot on the ball, hence the fact that it changed direction. The 4th incident, the penalty claim from Fuller. Lets get this into perspective. If that is Adebayor going down in the box, the referee gives it. Barry is nowhere near the ball and his legs trap fullers and he goes down. Its a stonewall penalty. The 5th and final incident. I have NEVER been so incensed at complete and utter injusitce at a football match. Not only is the goal TOTALLY legitimate, Shawcross jumps with ARMS AND HANDS DOWN. Given totally mistimes his jump and Ryan simply nods into the net. As Tony Pulis stated, take a look at Kolo Toure's reaction. Head in hands, stamping the floor with his fee, unable to take the fact that his team have lost to TEN men. Says it all for me., This is the reason why I feel that Alan Wiley is corrupt. I would love to know what was said to him at half time. His performance in the 2nd half was nothing short of incompetence. That decision to disallow the goal at the end was the WORST decision I have ever seen. I am simply astounded that he disallowed it. Will he come out and defend his decision.....NO! Will he be taken to task from the referee's comission and FA.....NO! Will he know, deep down, that he has robbed this honest football club, that legitamately won a football match with TEN MEN against the richest club in the world, with pure hard work, endeavour, integrity and downright graft......YES! Will he care..... WILL HE BOLLOCKS! He will be referring this saturday again and will face NO ACTION over such a disgraceful, scandalous and simply incorrect decision. We are all human. We all make mistakes. However, THAT tonight is not just a mistake. IMO, Alan Wiley had his mind made up before the ball hit that net. No way was he going to allow Stoke City to overturn the richest club in the world with TEN MEN and prevent them from reaching 4th place. Final word: I am so incredibly proud of my team tonight. We took the game to them and we thouroughly deserved all 3 points in the face of total and utter adversity and downright cheating. I am proud of you Stoke, you ae credit to this city and Football overall. Alan Wiley - He is CORRUPT SGT SPOT ON! |
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Post by Red and White Eyes on Feb 17, 2010 8:11:07 GMT
You gotta have a little sympathy for the guy.
He was clearly under immense pressure to make sure the "Big" team came out on top. (Financial - allegedly or otherwise)
He must have thought this won't be too difficult . odd decision here and there, just to make sure things go smoothly. The problem for Wiley is that Stoke absolutely murder the fancy dans and he ends up looking an utter fucking inept prick as he is forced to make enough to decisions to save their skins in 4 or 5 matches!
There was no way EVER we were going to win that match!
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Post by apb1 on Feb 17, 2010 8:13:42 GMT
I would maybe have MORE respect for him, and other refs, if they were crap for bags bulging with dinars.
They actually, and pathetically, just like being mates with big club players. After Whelan got nutsed, Wiley was on camera and clearly saying 'Patrick, Patrick, Patrick' in the manner of a fond uncle. He probably doesn't know any of our player's names.
IBNE HAKEM as they say in Turkey
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Post by bloodypiles on Feb 17, 2010 8:40:37 GMT
as the artic monkeys said:
see that ref there, i wonder what went wrong that he had to take backhands, he dont take major credit cards i doubt he gives receipts, its all not quite legitimate, an what a scummy man give him half the chance i bet he robs us if he can.
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Feb 17, 2010 12:29:46 GMT
I would maybe have MORE respect for him, and other refs, if they were crap for bags bulging with dinars. They actually, and pathetically, just like being mates with big club players. After Whelan got nutsed, Wiley was on camera and clearly saying 'Patrick, Patrick, Patrick' in the manner of a fond uncle. He probably doesn't know any of our player's names. IBNE HAKEM as they say in Turkey For me, the sharwcross decision is beyong reproach. However, he clearly saw the viera kick, hence his sympathetic call out to him. So, if he saw it, why did he not instantly issue a red card? More evidence for me that he is corrupt. Never have I known a board, media, teams, players, fans be so united and certain that the disallowed goal was such a bad decision. That is one of 4-5 crucial decisions against stoke. Surely, SURELY something has to be done. Will it? WILL IT BOLLOCKS.# SGT |
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