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Post by Ron Jeremy on Feb 17, 2010 12:31:48 GMT
I hate to agree with Ferguson, but he is a pathetic little twatty ref
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Post by markscfc72 on Feb 17, 2010 12:43:32 GMT
I have allowed myself the drive home and the chance to re-watch the incidents from today's game to consider whether I agree with Nigel Gleghorn that he wasn't corrupt he was just incompetent. Having given the matter due consideration, I can't believe that Alan Wiley didn't see Viera kick Whelan in the nuts, elbow Whitehead in the face, didn't see Ric and Mama get kicked off the park in the first half, didn't see Barry tread on the back of Ric's leg in the penalty area, saw all those imaginary free kicks in the last 15 minutes and saw the imaginary offence by Ryan at the end. I can't believe any one official could possibly make so many "innocent" mistakes and therefore I remain firmly of the opinion that the only possible conclusion is that he must be a cheat. By his actions, he not only cheated the team out of the 3 points they deserved, but also the players out of the ovation that their efforts tonight truly deserved. I also don't think I have ever heard Tony Pulis display such cold fury and anger as in his interviews both with Nigel and also on Sky. He showed great restraint but I don't think anyone was left with any doubts about what he really thought. It's a big call to label anyone a cheat or even half-heartedly raise it as a remote possibility, but the circumstantial evidence doesn't look good for Mr Wiley, does it? Anyone consistently as outrageously poor as that at their job would be getting the chop. Instead,the very worst Wiley's looking at is reffing Barnsley v Scunthorpe or Doncaster v Plymouth next week. And what have they done to deserve that? the prick is doing Wigan Vs Spurs Sunday then Man ure Vs West Ham the following Tues
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Feb 17, 2010 12:53:26 GMT
Mmmm if he DID see the Viera incident then surely the old FA line line will be trotted out "The Referee saw the incident and decided to take no action and therefore we cannot take retrospective action against Mr Viera".
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Post by Joules on Feb 17, 2010 12:57:47 GMT
Brilliant post - send it to the FA .
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Post by lommack on Feb 17, 2010 12:59:37 GMT
One interesting question is do you honestly believe that goal would have been given at the other end?
I do
Therefore, the only conclusion can be is that Wiley is a cheating fuckpig
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Post by kidcrewbob on Feb 17, 2010 13:01:09 GMT
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Post by peterfoxestash on Feb 17, 2010 13:08:52 GMT
Because he is obviously a corrupt cheating bastard can Stoke refuse to allow him into the stadium again, for his own protection of course.
also did someone say they know where he lives maybe he could pop over and have a quite conversation with him & a cricket bat
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Post by Mr Jon on Feb 17, 2010 13:40:23 GMT
Good point about Mancini and Kidd "chatting " with Wiley as they walked off the pitch at half-time. Fisrt half Wiley was incompetent, second half just plain corrupt.
I recall that the last time that we got a (what I still believe to be) corrupt ref at Stoke, it was Chris Foy v Man Ure on Boxing Day. I seem to recall that he had an impartial first half, left the pitch at half-time "chatting" with Fergie and then went on to gift them everything in the second half. He also ensured that they finished the game with 11 players instead of 9.
There does appear to be a recurring theme that "Premier" refs at our place appear to have less impartial first halves than second halves.
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Post by trenthampotter on Feb 17, 2010 15:12:35 GMT
Hi Folks as you can see this is my first post.I have had to sign up today to share your feelings on what a complete and utter shit house Alan Wiley was last night. I was sitting in the family stand last night quite close to both incidents involving Viera. He was looking straight at both incidents and still decided to do fook all about either. He has to be punished by whoever was watching him from the stands for such a poor display. When is our luck going to change for the better
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Feb 17, 2010 21:05:54 GMT
Hi Folks as you can see this is my first post.I have had to sign up today to share your feelings on what a complete and utter shit house Alan Wiley was last night. I was sitting in the family stand last night quite close to both incidents involving Viera. He was looking straight at both incidents and still decided to do fook all about either. He has to be punished by whoever was watching him from the stands for such a poor display. When is our luck going to change for the better A mate of mine a vale fan (Yes I know , and he rarely gives stoke ANY credit. Were always complaining he says, moaning about refs. His words to me today when he saw it "That shit. Thats a goal, no question, hahahahah" I took the fact he admitted we were robbed as leaving no doubt that we were. Nothing will be done. Thats the worst thing for me. SGT
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Post by dubstep on Feb 17, 2010 21:09:54 GMT
You gotta have a little sympathy for the guy. He was clearly under immense pressure to make sure the "Big" team came out on top. (Financial - allegedly or otherwise) He must have thought this won't be too difficult . odd decision here and there, just to make sure things go smoothly. The problem for Wiley is that Stoke absolutely murder the fancy dans and he ends up looking an utter fucking inept prick as he is forced to make enough to decisions to save their skins in 4 or 5 matches! There was no way EVER we were going to win that match! Smpathy? Please tell me your joking kidda, his fucking shoddy performance cost us.
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Post by offthewall on Feb 17, 2010 21:16:27 GMT
The only way to prove a ref is corrupt would be to catch him with the brown envelope in his hand. You do have to question how anyone can make so many wrong decisions in favour of one team. In so many otheer jobs you would just be sacked.
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Post by Ddraigcoch on Feb 17, 2010 21:21:56 GMT
By being so incompetent he hopes to hide his corruption......just a theory.
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Feb 17, 2010 21:28:30 GMT
I sent a newer verision of my post last night to the premier league today. Any chance of a reply other than backing the inept and corrupt official known as Alan Wiley?
SGT
It was not lost on me the fact that Roberto Mancini and Brian Kidd spent the walk back to the chaning rooms at half time of the Stoke City VS Manchester City match last night Tuesday 16th Feb 2010 discussing things with the 'referee' Alan Wiley. It is no coincidence that after half time, the referee gave almost every decision to Man City. I urge you to l ook at the stats. It was not lost on me, that even now I have seen the game again, that Vieria should have received TWO red cards. One for kicking Whelan in his nether regions and the other for elbowing Whitehead in the face. Result? NO BOOKING.
The 3rd incident, the red card for Abdoulaye Faye. Now, he should NOT have been sent off. The referee waved away any foul initially. The linesman flagged to get him sent off. Secondly,Danny Collins was actually there to cover if it was a foul, which it wasnt, as Faye clearly got a foot on the ball, hence the fact that it changed direction.
The 4th incident, the penalty claim from Fuller. Lets get this into perspective. If that is Adebayor going down in the box, the referee gives it. Barry is nowhere near the ball and his legs trap fullers and he goes down. Its a stonewall penalty.
The 5th and final incident. I have NEVER been so incensed at complete and utter injusitce at a football match. Not only is the goal TOTALLY legitimate, Shawcross jumps with ARMS AND HANDS DOWN. Shay Given totally mistimes his jump and Ryan Shawcross simply nods into the net. As Tony Pulis stated, take a look at Kolo Toure's reaction. Head in hands, stamping the floor with his feet, unable to take the fact that his team have lost to TEN men. Says it all for me., This is the reason why I feel that Alan Wiley is corrupt. I would love to know what was said to him at half time. His performance in the 2nd half was nothing short of incompetent. That decision to disallow the goal at the end was the WORST decision I have ever seen. I am simply astounded that he disallowed it. Will he come out and defend his decision.....NO! Will he be taken to task from the referee's comission and FA.....NO! Will he know, deep down, that he has robbed this honest football club, that legitamately won a football match with TEN MEN against the richest club in the world, with pure hard work, endeavour, integrity and downright graft......YES! Will he care..... WILL HE HELL! He will be taking charge of another premier league fixture, even a league fixture, this saturday again and will face NO ACTION over such a disgraceful, scandalous and simply incorrect decision. We are all human. We all make mistakes. However, THAT decision is not just a mistake. IMO, Alan Wiley had his mind made up before the ball hit that net. No way was he going to allow Stoke City to overturn the richest club in the world with TEN MEN and prevent them from reaching 4th place.
Final word: I am so incredibly proud of my team after their dispplay last night. We took the game to them and we thouroughly deserved all 3 points in the face of total and utter adversity and downright cheating. I am proud of you Stoke, you are credit to this city and Football overall.
Alan Wiley - He is CORRUPT and he and you should be totally ashamed.
Proud fan of STOKE CITY FC
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Post by pad1 on Feb 17, 2010 22:07:19 GMT
Even before he disallowed our goal i had never heard a crowd so collective and venemous towards a referee in all my years going to matches.Pure hatred of one person and the fat little fucker still walked off with a big fat look at me smirk on his face.
ALAN WILEY hang your head in shame ......................
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Post by icelandpotter on Feb 17, 2010 22:14:59 GMT
Another fact pointing towards corruptness is the lack of replies we'll all get from the FA we're emailing.
If it were the organisation I work for and we just didn't respond to customers complaints, everyon involved in not replying would all be disciplined
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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 17, 2010 22:23:31 GMT
They actually, and pathetically, just like being mates with big club players. After Whelan got nutsed, Wiley was on camera and clearly saying 'Patrick, Patrick, Patrick' in the manner of a fond uncle. He probably doesn't know any of our player's names. Very, very true.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Feb 17, 2010 22:35:08 GMT
Wileys decisions last night were way beyond incompetence and smacked very much of 'interference'...
The FA must investigate last nights game and ask themselves how one of their referees got things so badly wrong..
And although they may conclude that (investigation by deciding that) Alan Wiley is a fat little cheating bastard...they will also decide to do absolutely nothing about the fact that Wiley cheated and conned Stoke City out of three points
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Post by johnsmithsupper on Feb 17, 2010 22:45:36 GMT
Perhaps Tony should start walking to the tunnel with officials at half time giving them what for.
We have to do something to stop this intimidation of officials from just one side.
De jong was at it on the pitch and mancini and kidd off it.
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Post by foxfield on Feb 17, 2010 22:52:42 GMT
The reason that there will be no constructive replies to corresponndence is quite clear to me. It is not just this man that is corrupt, it is the whole hierarchy of the FA and the Premier League. They are responsible to no-one and are prepared to punish any manager who dares suggest they are incompetant. If this man referees another match, ever, the proof will be there for all to see.
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Post by uptheeante on Feb 17, 2010 23:10:31 GMT
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Post by 442 on Feb 17, 2010 23:24:56 GMT
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