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Post by wearepremierleague on Dec 10, 2009 21:57:55 GMT
Don't see how anyone can give Mama stick for the what 2-3 games he's been back. We all know what we get with Mama and many of us know better. But i think apart from the fact that he didn't want to shoot at Blackburn he put a decent shift in. At Arsenal where we were completely outclassed i still didn't think Mama was the worst player we had. I thought he looked like he wasn't fully fit yet but where has the love and the appreciation gone for him. A lot of us know that we have better options than Mama, we included, but don't see why people are giving him grief as Mama is Mama not Fuller or Tuncay.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Dec 10, 2009 22:02:04 GMT
In my opinion we went virtually an entire season without him and were fine
I think its just frustration because of the situation with tuncay and the fact sidibe got back playing 5 minutes for the reserves.
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Post by stokelad84 on Dec 10, 2009 22:04:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2009 22:05:54 GMT
Because Cresswell's gone.
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Post by GrandStokie on Dec 10, 2009 22:06:17 GMT
Give him time and he'll silence his critics like he's done before.
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Post by march4 on Dec 10, 2009 22:07:12 GMT
Give him time and he'll silence his critics like he's done before. Correct |
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Post by nicknacknoo on Dec 10, 2009 22:08:12 GMT
cos hes shite perhaps?i know he cant say no to pulis when even he must be amazed that he gets picked,but i dont rate him.i thank him from the bottom of my heart for his contribution last season, but hes a one trick pony whos not even performing that anymore.there have been times in the last few matches where if tuncay had received the opportunities afforded mama i would hope have he`d have done a lot better than sidibe did.to me hes a step backward and encourages us to play the football im getting tired of watching.
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Post by sage on Dec 10, 2009 22:09:17 GMT
Mama is simply not good enough, and doesn't contribute enough. I don't have a problem with him but he is another Pulis blind spot where he gets played regardless of how deserving he actually is of a starting place.
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Post by Squeekster on Dec 10, 2009 22:13:28 GMT
Sorry chaps thanks and all that mama you have been great for Stoke but now its time to move on! Oh and take Delap and Whitehead with you,Delap again has been a great servant too, Whitehead?
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Post by GrandStokie on Dec 10, 2009 22:14:01 GMT
cos hes shite perhaps?i know he cant say no to pulis when even he must be amazed that he gets picked,but i dont rate him.i thank him from the bottom of my heart for his contribution last season, but hes a one trick pony whos not even performing that anymore.there have been times in the last few matches where if tuncay had received the opportunities afforded mama i would hope have he`d have done a lot better than sidibe did.to me hes a step backward and encourages us to play the football im getting tired of watching. Jesus christ you make it sound as if everything is all Mama's fault. Just a note, he doesn't pick the team or choose the style of play, there's a bloke on the sideline that does that! |
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Post by nicknacknoo on Dec 10, 2009 22:18:12 GMT
yeah exactly what i said,its not his fault he gets picked.i never said i blamed him for anything, i just dont want to see in a stoke shirt again,along with delap and whitehead!
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 10, 2009 22:27:04 GMT
It's the same people who said he wasn't good enough for the Championship despite him being an integral part of the promotion team and the same people who said he wasn't good enough last year. Oh, and as Rob said, Cresswell's gone.  |
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Post by etonrifle on Dec 10, 2009 22:33:26 GMT
cos hes crap and couldnt hit his arse with a banjo
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Post by Stoke_FaN_DaN on Dec 10, 2009 22:38:21 GMT
Don't see how anyone can give Mama stick for the what 2-3 games he's been back. We all know what we get with Mama and many of us know better. But i think apart from the fact that he didn't want to shoot at Blackburn he put a decent shift in. At Arsenal where we were completely outclassed i still didn't think Mama was the worst player we had. I thought he looked like he wasn't fully fit yet but where has the love and the appreciation gone for him. A lot of us know that we have better options than Mama, we included, but don't see why people are giving him grief as Mama is Mama not Fuller or Tuncay. all i will say is it pisses me off to the back teeth that he starts yet kitson (still our leading goal scorer and our best performing striker this season) gets shipped off on loan. just dont get it at all, total bull. |
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Post by etonrifle on Dec 10, 2009 22:44:01 GMT
spot on Dan
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Post by smithy27 on Dec 10, 2009 23:55:38 GMT
He is not a patch on Kitson never mind Tuncay and Fuller. just not up to this level
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Post by djscfc on Dec 11, 2009 0:12:19 GMT
Tuncay is better than Mama
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 11, 2009 0:18:20 GMT
In my opinion we went virtually an entire season without him and were fine I think its just frustration because of the situation with tuncay and the fact sidibe got back playing 5 minutes for the reserves. I'd say that's a pretty fair comment. I think people are frustrated with the fact that he's getting picked ahead of Kitson and Tuncay and that frustration manifests itself in swipes at the individual player. If it appeared like he was behind those two names in the pecking order, then I wouldn't expect there'd be too much negativity expressed about Mama at all. |
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Post by Ron Burgundy on Dec 11, 2009 0:18:31 GMT
Because Super Tone prefers his trusty old Fiat and leaves his Lexus in the garage?
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 11, 2009 0:20:05 GMT
Give him time and he'll silence his critics like he's done before. Why what did he do before??? Oh sorry I forgot, he got injured and we improved alot |
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Post by DannyStokie on Dec 11, 2009 0:49:03 GMT
Sidibe: Played:308 Goals:45
Tuncay Played: 361 Goals:128
Beattie:Played: 425 Goals:134
Fuller: Played: 280 Goals:86
Kitson: Played:304 Goals:110
Now i'm no manager, but I'd say sidibe's no striker with that record.
We need people who score and Mama is not one of them, simple as that.
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 11, 2009 0:54:19 GMT
It's nowt personal against Mama. it's just the frustration of seeing him always there when Tunc rarely gets a look in.
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Post by mumf14 on Dec 11, 2009 0:58:55 GMT
If Sidibe plays on Saturday ...then I'm expecting that new screen/scoreboard to get smashed to fuck...there'll be glass everywhere..
It'll be akin to the Pilkington glass factory in St Helens blowing up...shrapnel everywhere.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 11, 2009 1:02:41 GMT
Sidibe: Played:308 Goals:45 Tuncay Played: 361 Goals:128 Beattie:Played: 425 Goals:134 Fuller: Played: 280 Goals:86 Kitson: Played:304 Goals:110 Has Kitson actually got the best strike rate out of the lot of them there? ??? |
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Post by DannyStokie on Dec 11, 2009 1:03:46 GMT
I dunno, i cant be arsed work it out, but it dunt look to bad. ;D
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Dec 11, 2009 1:44:03 GMT
Because the more central a role Mama becomes, the less effective Ethers and Liam become. He is PURE Route One football. We'll be back to having "fullbacks" pinging it 40 yards onto his head before we can say "wing-play", and we might as well play Pugh and fucking Delap on either wing for all the good they'll do.
He's simply not good enough for a team looking to consolidate, never mind push on.
The best football we played last season- this includes effectiveness as well as aesthetics- came when Mama wasn't even near the bench.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Dec 11, 2009 8:23:16 GMT
I dont think it's personal attacks at Mama, its the continued frustration as to how he warrants a starting berth up front instead of a £5mill odd signing who we believe to be a better player.
The fact that Mama plays upfront but doesnt score many goals is the real issue here. I like Mama's workrate when fit, but his goal ratio is awful. He cannot be picked purely on merit.
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Post by cousindupree on Dec 11, 2009 8:58:28 GMT
He's not getting stick...any stick is directed at the manager who plays his half fit favourites ahead of better footballers.Hoof and hope should be consigned to the history books
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2009 9:03:40 GMT
Mama probably isn't good enough to be a regular starter. It would almost certainly be a step backwards to start playing him regularly.
However, people are conveniently rewriting history by downplaying his contribution over the last few seasons and those ***** who think it's as simple as "he's a striker! strikers are there to score goals FFS LOLZ!" should stick to reading Shoot and asking what the big words mean.
In an ideal world he'd be fifth choice striker who is used as an impact sub and occasionally away from home.
The level of abuse he's coming in for from some dickweasels on here though is pathetic and stems purely from the need to have a hate figure.
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Post by Mr Rottweiler on Dec 11, 2009 9:08:12 GMT
Sorry chaps thanks and all that mama you have been great for Stoke but now its time to move on! Oh and take Delap and Whitehead with you,Delap again has been a great servant too, Whitehead? The harsh truth. |
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