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Post by padders01 on Nov 28, 2009 21:30:59 GMT
I think Whitehead will be a real asset for us long term, he gets through a lot of good work, goals will follow too if he keeps getting in to good positions like he did today. i thought he was brought to Stoke because he already was an asset.!! how long do you have to wait for the goals to follow ?? Just like Ronaldo, who scored EIGHT goals in his first season at Man Utd. You are clearly very unknowledgable about football and it takes time for new players to settle into a new side
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Post by fentonstokie1 on Nov 28, 2009 21:31:34 GMT
Col. First was a clear sitter that he fluffed and clean in on goal how much of a sitter do you want ffs and he could of made it easier by passing it if wanted totally bottle it??? 2nd chance,if he knew he could not make it and had to stretch then leave it. He's bust a gut to get into the box and had a fraction of a second to make that decision as Ric overhit it. You really expect him to know Ethers was 6 or 7 yards behind coming in? Exactly. I thought he did fine today and he wasn't the only one who failed to find the net for us today.
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Post by MrMagic on Nov 28, 2009 21:33:34 GMT
He wasn't bought for his goal scoring. He's not a goal scorer at all and never has been.
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Post by fromafar07 on Nov 28, 2009 21:34:44 GMT
i thought he was brought to Stoke because he already was an asset.!! how long do you have to wait for the goals to follow ?? Just like Ronaldo, who scored EIGHT goals in his first season at Man Utd. You are clearly very unknowledgable about football and it takes time for new players to settle into a new side you could NOT be more wrong !! Ronaldo was a very young unproven player when Ferguson brought him in, took him a cpl of season to mature !! Whitehead has been around a while now and has digressed with Stoke !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2009 21:35:08 GMT
You know its frightening how little fromafar knows about football it really is.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 28, 2009 21:36:26 GMT
He wasn't bought for his goal scoring. He's not a goal scorer at all and never has been. I'd fancy slotting that first one though. He should have scored, just like Wilko and Lawrence should have done.
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Post by fentonstokie1 on Nov 28, 2009 21:36:47 GMT
Sunderland fans in the pub today said Collins would be agreat signing for us but Whitehead is wank.I still think Collins is wank but Whitehead is worse than wank!!!! Wanker!!!
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Post by fromafar07 on Nov 28, 2009 21:37:21 GMT
You know its frightening how little fromafar knows about football it really is. dont be scared little boy, its ok, there there
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 28, 2009 21:38:06 GMT
He wasn't bought for his goal scoring. He's not a goal scorer at all and never has been. I'd fancy slotting that first one though. He should have scored, just like Wilko and Lawrence should have done. It was a one-on-one - they're not always scored, it just happens. They had an almost identical one a few minutes before. The real crime was not squaring it for Lawrence.
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Post by fentonstokie1 on Nov 28, 2009 21:38:57 GMT
You know its frightening how little fromafar knows about football it really is. You've noticed as well eh.
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 28, 2009 21:40:06 GMT
You know its frightening how little fromafar knows about football it really is. dont be scared little boy, its ok, there there How are we doing faf? Any further evidence for your claims that Whitehead's second chance was "one of the easiest sitters ever seen" and that Blackburn's midfield "controlled the game"? Or would you like to retract those statements?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2009 21:40:26 GMT
Incredible response says it all.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 28, 2009 21:41:23 GMT
I'd fancy slotting that first one though. He should have scored, just like Wilko and Lawrence should have done. It was a one-on-one - they're not always scored, it just happens. They had an almost identical one a few minutes before. The real crime was not squaring it for Lawrence. They are but I'm a firm believer that in a one on one situation the attacker holds all the cards and should score. He was in a perfect position too.
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Post by MrMagic on Nov 28, 2009 21:43:11 GMT
It was a one-on-one - they're not always scored, it just happens. They had an almost identical one a few minutes before. The real crime was not squaring it for Lawrence. They are but I'm a firm believer that in a one on one situation the attacker holds all the cards and should score. He was in a perfect position too. What is this "attacker" that you speak of?????
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Post by fromafar07 on Nov 28, 2009 21:43:14 GMT
dont be scared little boy, its ok, there there How are we doing faf? Any further evidence for your claims that Whitehead's second chance was "one of the easiest sitters ever seen" and that Blackburn's midfield "controlled the game"? Or would you like to retract those statements? good god man are you blind ?/ that proves you didnt watch the match and are talking out of your arse !! i posted that repsonse about 2 hours ago !!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 28, 2009 21:45:52 GMT
They are but I'm a firm believer that in a one on one situation the attacker holds all the cards and should score. He was in a perfect position too. What is this "attacker" that you speak of????? He's a professional footballer, one on one with the 'keeper 14 yards out, he should score.
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Post by Beardy200 on Nov 28, 2009 21:50:30 GMT
What is this "attacker" that you speak of????? He's a professional footballer, one on one with the 'keeper 14 yards out, he should score. I expected him to score aswell mate. I wouldn't say it was a sitter but i reckon you'd expect a 65-70% strike rate from there. The second one i'd put as low as 5%.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Nov 28, 2009 21:51:04 GMT
What is this "attacker" that you speak of????? He's a professional footballer, one on one with the 'keeper 14 yards out, he should score. We say he should score but I bet the stats are more 50 50. First time a Stoke central midfielder has had a one on one with the keeper in a very good while. Including the beloved Whelan.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 28, 2009 21:53:36 GMT
Last time Whelan was one on one with the keeper + a few defenders he wazzed it in the back of the net and sent me mental! ;D
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Post by ratters on Nov 28, 2009 21:54:51 GMT
The second one he should have left it and didnt, and the first one probs should have scored, but it wasnt a sitter!!! a sitter is when u fail to put the ball in an empty net! but if fuller missed those u wudnt have been slating him the way u all are at whitehead, he played well today, we did well as a team, and its better than loosing 3-0, some people want too much, would have taken a point before the game
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Post by ColonelMustard on Nov 28, 2009 21:57:59 GMT
Last time Whelan was one on one with the keeper + a few defenders he wazzed it in the back of the net and sent me mental! ;D One on one plus defenders?!? ;D He has given us a few mentals. If Whitehead can give us all one of them his life will be a lot easier.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 28, 2009 21:58:08 GMT
If Fuller missed that first one, I'd be saying he should have scored! ;D Similarly if Shawcross had that chance, he should have scored and so on.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 28, 2009 21:59:09 GMT
Last time Whelan was one on one with the keeper + a few defenders he wazzed it in the back of the net and sent me mental! ;D One on one plus defenders?!? ;D He has given us a few mentals. If Whitehead can give us all one of them his life will be a lot easier. I know-he had to go and be a show off!
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 28, 2009 21:59:57 GMT
How are we doing faf? Any further evidence for your claims that Whitehead's second chance was "one of the easiest sitters ever seen" and that Blackburn's midfield "controlled the game"? Or would you like to retract those statements? good god man are you blind ?/ that proves you didnt watch the match and are talking out of your arse !! i posted that repsonse about 2 hours ago !! err...no you didn't. You told me that the commentator had described it as a good chance and a bad miss. Not good enough. You specifically stated that Blackburn's midfield controlled the game and that Whitehead's chance was one of the easiest sitters EVER SEEN. There is a big difference between a missed chance and one of the easiest sitters ever seen. I want any written review or statistics from the game from any neutral source anywhere on the internet which comes close to backing up those statements. Obviously if you can't find anything we'll just have to assume you're being deliberately negative and melodramatic in order to get attention. But they shouldn't be too hard for you to find.
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Post by padders01 on Nov 28, 2009 22:07:22 GMT
Last time Whelan was one on one with the keeper + a few defenders he wazzed it in the back of the net and sent me mental! ;D He actually missed an easier chance for ROI against France in the first leg. Exactly the same, one on one with the keeper
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Post by padders01 on Nov 28, 2009 22:08:34 GMT
Potterlog,
The BBC had Blackburn with 53% of the posession, so as always faf is talking out of his arse
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 28, 2009 22:13:56 GMT
Last time Whelan was one on one with the keeper + a few defenders he wazzed it in the back of the net and sent me mental! ;D He actually missed an easier chance for ROI against France in the first leg. Exactly the same, one on one with the keeper Guess what? He should have scored! ;D
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Post by roylandstoke on Nov 28, 2009 22:17:32 GMT
I said on a different thread before the game that people would stop moaning about Whitehead when he stopped performing so poorly. Today, for me, he had his best game by far. Yes he missed a 1 on 1 and yes he spoiled a great chance by stretching for a ball he couldn't reach. Lots of 1 on 1s are missed (BLackburn had one early in the game). Players do stretch for balls when they aren't aware of team-mates behind them. It happens. Whitehead and the rest of the team played well today and deserved a win. Last week we won a game playing terrible, terrible football that we did not deserve to win.
I still struggle to see the signing of Whitehead as good business for SCFC ,and believe Glenn Whelan is a better player, but to slag off his performance today is unfair. It really is time people on this board started judging what they see instead of trotting out dogmatic garbage because they feel the need to belong to one group or another. I am a fan of SCFC. How we play is everything to me.
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Post by jonnynico on Nov 28, 2009 22:27:01 GMT
not a whitehead fan but he did ok today, so he missed 2 chances but so did our star men. at least he got there instead of being held back not allowed to go forward. did'nt fuller, lawro, beats miss, nobody saying much about that. well done lads, got a point i never expected.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 28, 2009 23:34:07 GMT
That finish was more pathetic that I remember and he should have passed it! ;D
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