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Post by swampySCFC on Nov 22, 2009 23:31:54 GMT
What our recent success doesn't mean though is that I or anyone else should feel compelled to perform a non-stop 24-7 wankathon because we're in such a good league position. We're supporters...we want the best for our team, because we CARE...that's what makes us scrutinise performances and debate the ins and outs of formations and team selections for more hours than is probably healthy...because we want the team to be doing as well as it realistically can be. Just sitting there and clapping like sealions isn't what being a football supporter is about. I don't think he's asking for a 24-7 wankathon and debate is fine but debate gets stiffled by the boring PHW plonkers who must spend half their miserable little lives thinking of new angles to have a pop at us from! Personally I heard John Acres tonight (I never usually hear the phone in after the match) and he summed up how I feel I like TP and personally I wouldn't swap him for anyone BUT I wish he'd pick Lawrence Tuncay Fuller and Whelan in the same team week in week out. But how can you really argue when he keeps winning with his 'lesser' team? Maybe, and this is a long shot, but maybe TP knows more than us message board freaks who watch one match a week and never have to put our necks on the line! Spot on pal. The weakest link this year is the PHW who dont recognise where we are. Some fucker was on about Martinez the other day. 9-1. If you want to criticise suggest your manager.
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Post by serpico on Nov 22, 2009 23:33:49 GMT
I think the rimmers are missing something, most of us criticising pulis know he can do better, we know he can pick a side that can play well and win, we've all seen it, he just has a horrible stubborn streak in him that comes out for 10-15 games a season, .... the good news is he usually comes around to the mistakes he's making and picks the team i would ;D
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Post by bunnyscfc on Nov 22, 2009 23:52:38 GMT
"I would say the fact you have an agenda is proved by your reference to a 'flukey' win at Spurs, what an absolute joke. "
Of course it was lucky, they battered us at times. If you think we deserved to win then I can't quite fathom that out at all.
Please answer the question about the Sentinel articles that praised our manager to the hilt. Hardly the work of someone with an agenda is it?
<drums fingers on desk, awaits answer>
I won't bring it back to the top come May as I have a family, job and a life. Why the fuck would I want to trawl back through 6 months worth of threads unless I'm a sad little man?
Even if we were relegated I wouldn't bring it up as I'd be devastated and would have more on my mind that penis-measuring to score cheap points on a debating platform such as this. Feel free to copy and paste this onto word and do whatever you want with it.
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Post by headsgoup on Nov 23, 2009 0:00:02 GMT
OK the performance today was poor, VERY poor, but the mark of a professional in any walk of life is that you get the job done no matter what life throws at you and by any measure our club is being run in a VERY professional manner at the moment. Amateur cyber pundits can have an opinion, however I can only assume they unlike myself have not witnessed over the last two decades journeymen footballers fold to the likes of Bury, Chester, Nuneaton, Blythe Spartans, Telford and Port f***ing Vale !!! While wearing the Red and White. Say what you like about Pulis and I don`t particularly like the guy`s persona, BUT he got the job done when virtually the whole crowd were against him. If the boo boys want to go back to the likes of Gigg Lane and Spotland and VILE park then go ahead force out Pulis you will get your wish sooner than you imagine. Well done super tone highest league placing a quarter of a century !!!! Fantastic post and should be in the Oatcake. Best post of 2009 ;D
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Post by headsgoup on Nov 23, 2009 0:01:52 GMT
I don't think he's asking for a 24-7 wankathon and debate is fine but debate gets stiffled by the boring PHW plonkers who must spend half their miserable little lives thinking of new angles to have a pop at us from! Personally I heard John Acres tonight (I never usually hear the phone in after the match) and he summed up how I feel I like TP and personally I wouldn't swap him for anyone BUT I wish he'd pick Lawrence Tuncay Fuller and Whelan in the same team week in week out. But how can you really argue when he keeps winning with his 'lesser' team? Maybe, and this is a long shot, but maybe TP knows more than us message board freaks who watch one match a week and never have to put our necks on the line! Spot on pal. The weakest link this year is the PHW who dont recognise where we are. Some fucker was on about Martinez the other day. 9-1. If you want to criticise suggest your manager. Can you find the post? ;D
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Post by anarchicalan on Nov 23, 2009 0:38:56 GMT
I can't believe that anyone would consider the very fortunate result today as anything other than a vindication of everything the SUPPORTERS have been demanding!
If they'd had the luck they deserved, we'd have lost. It's really that simple.
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Post by swampySCFC on Nov 23, 2009 1:03:54 GMT
I can't believe that anyone would consider the very fortunate result today as anything other than a vindication of everything the SUPPORTERS have been demanding! If they'd had the luck they deserved, we'd have lost. It's really that simple. Bollox. We won. 3 points. Thats what we set out to get end of.
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Post by anarchicalan on Nov 23, 2009 1:10:15 GMT
Well Swampy, when you put up such a convincing argument, who can possibly disagree?
Don't let the facts you (hopefully) witnessed for yourself get in the way of reality.
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Post by slangking on Nov 23, 2009 7:55:57 GMT
Well, in future, THINK before you come out with your short term shite every time we lose a game, you were saying we would need 42 points to stay up last season in the hope that people would start whinging even more. Of course you won't remember this come May, because again you are wrong. "I would say the fact you have an agenda is proved by your reference to a 'flukey' win at Spurs, what an absolute joke. " Of course it was lucky, they battered us at times. If you think we deserved to win then I can't quite fathom that out at all. Please answer the question about the Sentinel articles that praised our manager to the hilt. Hardly the work of someone with an agenda is it? <drums fingers on desk, awaits answer> I won't bring it back to the top come May as I have a family, job and a life. Why the fuck would I want to trawl back through 6 months worth of threads unless I'm a sad little man? Even if we were relegated I wouldn't bring it up as I'd be devastated and would have more on my mind that penis-measuring to score cheap points on a debating platform such as this. Feel free to copy and paste this onto word and do whatever you want with it.
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Post by mcf on Nov 23, 2009 8:17:12 GMT
bunny
Any team at our level will need an element of good fortune to win at Spurs.
Pulis kept us in the game though by the team that he picked.
We then took advantage when Lennon went off.
I have no idea how Wigan approched the game yesterday but I bet their fans would have preferred our performance and result to theirs?
If you can't give Pulis some credit for this, other than being lucky then no wonder you find yourself with the wankstains and sit with a group that have their opinion belittled so frequently.
Your comments on this are simply horseshit.
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Post by stokebill on Nov 23, 2009 8:23:54 GMT
"I would say the fact you have an agenda is proved by your reference to a 'flukey' win at Spurs, what an absolute joke. " Of course it was lucky, they battered us at times. If you think we deserved to win then I can't quite fathom that out at all. Please answer the question about the Sentinel articles that praised our manager to the hilt. Hardly the work of someone with an agenda is it? <drums fingers on desk, awaits answer> I won't bring it back to the top come May as I have a family, job and a life. Why the fuck would I want to trawl back through 6 months worth of threads unless I'm a sad little man? Even if we were relegated I wouldn't bring it up as I'd be devastated and would have more on my mind that penis-measuring to score cheap points on a debating platform such as this. Feel free to copy and paste this onto word and do whatever you want with it. Not wishing to re-tread old ground, but I really don't agree with you re Spurs. Goalkeepers are paid to make saves, and we did have a few escapes - but actually I thought it was a cool-headed and assured display from Stoke, not backs to the wall at all. We were the only winners in the final 20 minutes as Spurs lost heart and ran out of ideas. Obviously we could have lost on another day, we were away at Spurs - but that was a tremendous display and perfected executed performance from Stoke imo.
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Post by polofrance on Nov 23, 2009 8:30:02 GMT
just out of curiosity I looked up our results last year against the relegated teams at home
West brazil 1- 0 boro 1- 0 toon 1-1 not memorable matches any of them bit like yesterday realy.
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Post by mcf on Nov 23, 2009 8:34:34 GMT
The expectations of the crowd in general has just exploded.
It shows us just how far we have come.
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Post by tazi on Nov 23, 2009 9:44:21 GMT
30+ million spent on the squad???? I think we should be performin better than that at home regardless of where we've come from in the last 23 years Keane spent £60M then got the boot.
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Post by mcf on Nov 23, 2009 9:45:56 GMT
Now I've read your original post Trousers....unfucking lucky. ;D You need to stay away from the bait if you are taking a swim in the pond.
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Post by debaucherous on Nov 23, 2009 9:51:39 GMT
I don't think anyone who criticises the way we played - either at home to Portsmouth or in any of our other games this season - wants Pulis to go. Even the people booing are unlikely to want Pulis to go because we are ninth, we did finish in a great position last season and he did get us promotion within two years of coming back.
I think it's got more to do with frustration than any real desire for another manager - I for one don't want to see us getting dicked 9-1, but I also don't want to see my team run around like headless chickens while some of our best players are on the bench.
We were really awful on Sunday - possibly the worst we have played at home since promotion - and lucky to get a win. I think part of the problem is that we are actually doing better than Pulis ever expected. He keeps saying he has a three year plan (or is it five years?) and we are only part way through that. I think that plan involved defending for the most part, keeping clean sheets and snatching the odd goal. He has a record of never being relegated for a reason and that is because he sets out to defend before he attacks.
But I now think the plan needs to adapt because this year (even more so than last year) the Premier League is pretty poor when you get outside the top 10 and some of the tactics the manager is employing are in danger of holding us back.
There may be good reasons behind his decisions, but unless he comes out and explains them from time to time how are the fans supposed to know? Someone posted an interview on here in which Lawrence said he was struggling with an ankle injury, but why aren't the club being open about this and why isn't the Sentinel reporting it?
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Post by swanster on Nov 23, 2009 10:13:22 GMT
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Post by fortressbrit on Nov 23, 2009 10:26:28 GMT
If that's a direct dig at me (which I'm assuming it is from the thread title)...don't you dare start the "i was there at Macclesfield and I bet you weren't" bullshit with me. I've witnessed all the shit that we've had to endure for nearly 25 years of my life, and I'd bet that most people who post on here have been going far longer than the last year or so. What our recent success doesn't mean though is that I or anyone else should feel compelled to perform a non-stop 24-7 wankathon because we're in such a good league position. We're supporters...we want the best for our team, because we CARE...that's what makes us scrutinise performances and debate the ins and outs of formations and team selections for more hours than is probably healthy...because we want the team to be doing as well as it realistically can be. Just sitting there and clapping like sealions isn't what being a football supporter is about. ,think you need to look up the meaning of "support" duck,i dont think it will include "scrutinise" ;D
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Post by debaucherous on Nov 23, 2009 11:14:24 GMT
The piece posted on here was a couple of weeks ago and he said his ankle was like a pin cushion because of all the painkilling injections... If that is the case I can understand him not playing, but we should be told.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Nov 23, 2009 11:50:56 GMT
Is there a time limit on how long I have to be greatful for the fact that we are in a much better position than we were £50 odd million pounds in transfer fees and a tripling of the wage bill later?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2009 11:53:06 GMT
Is there a time limit on how long I have to be greatful for the fact that we are in a much better position than we were £50 odd million pounds in transfer fees and a tripling of the wage bill later? What that man said.
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Post by winger on Nov 23, 2009 11:54:19 GMT
'Is there a time limit on how long I have to be greatful for the fact that we are in a much better position than we were £50 odd million pounds in transfer fees and a tripling of the wage bill later?'
Yes. You have to be grateful until the manager leaves the club. That will be the moment you come to realise how lucky you were under TP.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Nov 23, 2009 12:01:54 GMT
Yes. You have to be grateful until the manager leaves the club. That will be the moment you come to realise how lucky you were under TP. Thank you Winger. That has put the grateful steel back in me. There was a brief moment around 4.30 yesterday when I forgot how far we had come with so little. ;D
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Post by mcf on Nov 23, 2009 13:34:22 GMT
You are not as fortunate as winger though Mark. He had a Rimmer texting him at half time that we would win. I did get the score wrong though.
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Post by jezzascfc on Nov 23, 2009 13:48:34 GMT
I have visions of MarkWolstanton as Oliver standing in front of Tone as Mr Bumble (typecasting?) asking for more gruel? Mark, you should be jolly well grateful for the gruel you've had served up already, yesterday being one of the biggest helpings I can remember for some time!! Gaviscon anyone? Napoleon wished for lucky generals - on the evidence of yesterday, Coates has found one!
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Post by winger on Nov 23, 2009 14:19:16 GMT
You are not as fortunate as winger though Mark. He had a Rimmer texting him at half time that we would win. I did get the score wrong though. It was clear we would win cos Pulis has a back pocket stuffed full of Get out of Jail Free cards. He's lucked out twice with the nearly-subbing of Ricardo now and that is why we love him. (Better born lucky than good). What you need to worry about is how not one poster took your bait earlier. What did you do, delete it off yourself. ;D You are a totally spent force with nothing to say whereas we reborn wankstains rule the new world order now with our Right to Criticise but Lovin Being 9th badges.
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Post by mcf on Nov 23, 2009 15:39:26 GMT
It's just fallen into the abyss
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Post by fromafar07 on Nov 23, 2009 15:49:26 GMT
OK the performance today was poor, VERY poor, but the mark of a professional in any walk of life is that you get the job done no matter what life throws at you and by any measure our club is being run in a VERY professional manner at the moment. Amateur cyber pundits can have an opinion, however I can only assume they unlike myself have not witnessed over the last two decades journeymen footballers fold to the likes of Bury, Chester, Nuneaton, Blythe Spartans, Telford and Port f***ing Vale !!! While wearing the Red and White. Say what you like about Pulis and I don`t particularly like the guy`s persona, BUT he got the job done when virtually the whole crowd were against him. If the boo boys want to go back to the likes of Gigg Lane and Spotland and VILE park then go ahead force out Pulis you will get your wish sooner than you imagine. Well done super tone highest league placing a quarter of a century !!!! really can't agree at all, mainly because you are missing the big picture! granted, 3 points were acheived, when, after all is said, 3 points are what a team is after every game !! However, after 3 games against the 3 bottom dwellers of the league have resulted in a win, a loss and a draw. The worst play and the strangest squad selections of the season ! The play has not improved since Wolves it has worsened ! Honestly, do you think that against any other team, playing that badly we would have won ?? Would any other player have put in a penalty kick like that one ? it was basically a back pass to Sorro ! So that is what a lot of people seem to be missing, its not the end justifies the means, its opening your eyes and seeing what is going on around you, reading between the lines, and any other cliche you may want to use. Its, if we play that way again Balckburn, Everton, Arsenal, Villa, Fulham, or any other team above the bottom 3 or 4 teams will we win ??
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Post by mcf on Nov 23, 2009 15:53:38 GMT
Not sure but I think we beat Spurs, Sunderland and Burnley so check out where they are in the league.
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Post by fromafar07 on Nov 23, 2009 16:01:36 GMT
Not sure but I think we beat Spurs, Sunderland and Burnley so check out where they are in the league. ooohhhhhhh we beat Burnley, first game of the season for a newly promoted team !!
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