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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 26, 2013 18:29:33 GMT
Playing a club who the fans feel we should beat...
...but they're a club who always seem to get the better of us.
A run of bad form, bad performances and some bad results...
...means that frustrations are simmering to boiling point.
A team selection that the fans want to see...
...but TP seems desperate to drop certain players and accommodate others.
It all points to the possibility of frustrations spilling over into some serious verbal heckling of Pulis, if not the first audible 'Pulis Out' chants, should things not go our way. I think several factors will need to be present for that to occur, i.e starting Adam & Crouch, a poor performance etc, but the altering mood on here is indicating that even the fence-sitters and moderate rimmers are starting to turn.
A bad result on Tuesday could be the catalyst for things to start becoming openly hostile as fans start to turn on the manager and in the process turn on each other.
Of course, we've been in this position a number of times and it's always at these points when TP seems to suddenly see sense, pick something like his best side, and grind out the result that placates everyone for a while. It's a pattern we've seen repeated many,many times before.
I hope he does it again because as much as I would feel relief at not having to watch the mind-numbing football and tear my hair out at the Groundhog day tactical decisions and transfers, I think a dignified exit-perhaps at the end of the season,with no ill-feeling- is the least that TP deserves.
We're in a decent league position, not in any relegation trouble, but most people are now starting to see what some have been saying for a long time. The hope is disappearing, the enjoyment is being truly strangled from the matchday experience, and people are actually starting to question why we look so poor after so much money has been spent.
TP and Stoke may not be desperate for points, but he could really do with earning some goodwill.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jan 26, 2013 18:32:50 GMT
Who are we playing Tuesday?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 26, 2013 18:33:27 GMT
It's going to be very, very interesting to see what team he picks on Tuesday.
He said he was going to play his BEST XI today and apart from the goalkeeper I think he did.
Now we're out of the cup, there's no need to rotate players, so where does that leave Adam and Crouch?
I suppose if Swansea up their offer for Kenwyne then that will at least get him out of one hole.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 26, 2013 18:34:05 GMT
Its going to be a battle that's for sure ;D
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Post by knype on Jan 26, 2013 18:35:24 GMT
My team for Tuesday would be
Begovic
Wilkinson Huth Shawcross Cameron
Pennant Adam N'Zonzi Etherington
Walters Jones
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Post by forwardpass on Jan 26, 2013 18:35:57 GMT
Wigwam will leve with at least a point
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 26, 2013 18:36:49 GMT
We'll win.. dread to think what the reaction will be if we don't.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 26, 2013 18:44:27 GMT
It's going to be very, very interesting to see what team he picks on Tuesday. He said he was going to play his BEST XI today and apart from the goalkeeper I think he did.Now we're out of the cup, there's no need to rotate players, so where does that leave Adam and Crouch? I suppose if Swansea up their offer for Kenwyne then that will at least get him out of one hole. Cough Shotton cough cough  |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 26, 2013 18:44:55 GMT
My team for Tuesday would be Begovic Wilkinson Huth Shawcross Cameron Pennant Adam N'Zonzi Etherington Walters Jones Why no Whelan? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2013 18:48:01 GMT
Ugly will just about sum it up if there are chants of "Pulis out" on Tuesday. We saw against Chelsea how the fans are ready to turn on each other. You can also tell from the mood on here how divided the fans are.
If the team get off to a bad start on Tuesday then it could get tasty. And if anyone thinks the empty seats today were embarrassing, that's nothing to what mass fisticuffs will look like among our own fans.
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Post by BuzzB on Jan 26, 2013 18:48:42 GMT
My team for Tuesday would be Begovic Wilkinson Huth Shawcross Cameron Pennant Adam N'Zonzi Etherington Walters Jones Why no Whelan? He will be serving a 3 match ban. I would like to see that team too, Adam may shine against Wigan played in a more suitable position , if he doesn't then there isn't much hope for him. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 26, 2013 18:49:09 GMT
It's going to be very, very interesting to see what team he picks on Tuesday. He said he was going to play his BEST XI today and apart from the goalkeeper I think he did.Now we're out of the cup, there's no need to rotate players, so where does that leave Adam and Crouch? I suppose if Swansea up their offer for Kenwyne then that will at least get him out of one hole. Cough Shotton cough cough My point was that TP has announced what his best (available) starting XI is ... and it doesn't involve Adam or Crouch. |
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Post by stonmg on Jan 26, 2013 18:50:50 GMT
Looks like trousers has given us a BULLET to shoot! on Tues.
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Post by stokieforever on Jan 26, 2013 18:52:51 GMT
My team for Tuesday would be Begovic Wilkinson Huth Shawcross Cameron Pennant Adam N'Zonzi Etherington Walters Jones I'd be happy with that team, lets see Tuesday, cant see it tho  |
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 26, 2013 18:53:01 GMT
It will be ugly ON the pitch that's for sure.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 26, 2013 18:56:31 GMT
Yeah certainly one of TP's biggest league games since promotion. Think if its dire again then the crowd will be extremely verbal (towards the manager). It started to quite verbal at Swansea.
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Post by onionman on Jan 26, 2013 19:00:06 GMT
Playing a club who the fans feel we should beat... ...but they're a club who always seem to get the better of us. A run of bad form, bad performances and some bad results... ...means that frustrations are simmering to boiling point. A team selection that the fans want to see...
...but TP seems desperate to drop certain players and accommodate others. It all points to the possibility of frustrations spilling over into some serious verbal heckling of Pulis, if not the first audible 'Pulis Out' chants, should things not go our way. I think several factors will need to be present for that to occur, i.e starting Adam & Crouch, a poor performance etc, but the altering mood on here is indicating that even the fence-sitters and moderate rimmers are starting to turn. A bad result on Tuesday could be the catalyst for things to start becoming openly hostile as fans start to turn on the manager and in the process turn on each other. Of course, we've been in this position a number of times and it's always at these points when TP seems to suddenly see sense, pick something like his best side, and grind out the result that placates everyone for a while. It's a pattern we've seen repeated many,many times before. I hope he does it again because as much as I would feel relief at not having to watch the mind-numbing football and tear my hair out at the Groundhog day tactical decisions and transfers, I think a dignified exit-perhaps at the end of the season,with no ill-feeling- is the least that TP deserves. We're in a decent league position, not in any relegation trouble, but most people are now starting to see what some have been saying for a long time. The hope is disappearing, the enjoyment is being truly strangled from the matchday experience, and people are actually starting to question why we look so poor after so much money has been spent. TP and Stoke may not be desperate for points, but he could really do with earning some goodwill. Good post mate, and you've always summed up the Pulis dilemma well. I think the best thing for everyone is for Pulis to announce his retirement a year in advance, this coming summer. Give Pulis a free year without the shackles of long-term planning which seems to confuse him. It would be like the final year from a strict teacher who decided to finally let things go a bit, like Gudjon when it was his final season. It would allow for a year's breathing space for the extremes from both camps. Those that love Pulis could calmly enjoy his farewell year, those that hate him would probably relax their anger as they know his time is nearly up. Either way, we start afresh in 2014/15 with everyone on the same page. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2013 19:00:13 GMT
You cannot sugar coat Tuesday at all. It is a must win game and it is a must that we perform well.
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Post by alster on Jan 26, 2013 19:02:00 GMT
Ugly will just about sum it up if there are chants of "Pulis out" on Tuesday. We saw against Chelsea how the fans are ready to turn on each other. You can also tell from the mood on here how divided the fans are. If the team get off to a bad start on Tuesday then it could get tasty. And if anyone thinks the empty seats today were embarrassing, that's nothing to what mass fisticuffs will look like among our own fans. I fear you could be right. Our supporters are massively divided, the disenchanted section is growing and the Taliban think they can whip us into line. Well in true Stoke spirit I'll go when I want, I'll sing when I want, I'll leave when I want. |
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Post by potter63 on Jan 26, 2013 19:02:52 GMT
My team for Tuesday would be Begovic Wilkinson Huth Shawcross Cameron Pennant Adam N'Zonzi Etherington Walters Jones Agree with that knype |
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 26, 2013 19:08:02 GMT
onion man, I agree. Can we just bring the retirement forward a year to this summer? Perhaps announced erm...tomorrow?
In all seriousness I said I'd had enough of Pulisball and all the trimmings in pre-season & that's still my opinion.
I'm happy to say thanks, goodbye and in years to come view TP as one of the best managers we've ever had. The problem is that even when he hits the right notes and we click as a team, I know the next act of fuckwitted meddling is only a game or two away and we're back to square one.
He's still ahead now (just), and it's always best to go out while you still are and leave a positive legacy.
There'd be a risk of course, but then that's part of the attraction.
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Post by spongebobflathead on Jan 26, 2013 19:14:24 GMT
Cough Shotton cough cough My point was that TP has announced what his best (available) starting XI is ... and it doesn't involve Adam or Crouch. I wouldnt read too much into that , To be fair tp is prone to talk bullshit and contradicts on a regular basis |
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Post by dadofsam on Jan 26, 2013 19:33:14 GMT
If he brings back Bego and Cameron that's about as good as he can do. Play "proper" Pulisball against Wigan and we should come out on top. If Whelan is banned it'll have to be Deano,
£90million he's spent, fuck me
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Post by staffsvilla on Jan 26, 2013 19:40:14 GMT
fuck me if you lot think the atmosphere will be grim at the brit on tues, i would say if we lose again it will be pure venum |
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Post by thehoof on Jan 26, 2013 19:45:28 GMT
Excellent post Trouser.
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Post by Bombus on Jan 26, 2013 19:47:22 GMT
My team for Tuesday would be Begovic Wilkinson Huth Shawcross Cameron Pennant Adam N'Zonzi Etherington Walters Jones Great side on paper. We all know Pulis will prefer Deano to Adam though. EDIT: And Kites for Pennant. |
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Post by ruts66 on Jan 26, 2013 19:56:13 GMT
It's time to stand down,
It's time to stand dow-ow-own,
Tony, you legend - it's time to stand down.
Sad, but true - I don't think any of us want to see things turn sour between manager and supporters after the hard-fought platform he's given Stoke City FC...
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jan 26, 2013 19:58:42 GMT
My team for Tuesday would be Begovic Wilkinson Huth Shawcross Cameron Pennant Adam N'Zonzi Etherington Walters Jones Great side on paper. We all know Pulis will prefer Deano to Adam though. EDIT: And Kites for Pennant. Pity we don't play on paper then mate  |
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Post by stockportstokie on Jan 26, 2013 20:23:09 GMT
It's time to stand down, It's time to stand dow-ow-own, Tony, you legend - it's time to stand down. Sad, but true - I don't think any of us want to see things turn sour between manager and supporters after the hard-fought platform he's given Stoke City FC... I think that's quite an apt chant. The only thing from preventing fans from venting frustrations is out of their respect for TP, quite rightfully too. But any balanced sane person can see he hasn't got what it takes to get us to that next level. Even I wouldn't chant the following out of respect for what he's done for the club "Pulis out, sacked in the morning, you don't know what you're doing" I reckon "step down" is softer but serves the same purpose. It's time to step down Tony. |
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Post by zephyr on Jan 26, 2013 20:25:33 GMT
My team for Tuesday would be Begovic Wilkinson Huth Shawcross Cameron Pennant Adam N'Zonzi Etherington Walters Jones We have more chance of beating Citeh away than Pennant playing in a Stoke shirt again. |
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