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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 30, 2010 1:49:46 GMT
At the age of 18, I can honestly say that's one of the best performances I've ever seen in my life. At the age of 44 I can say the same Luke ... outstanding master class from Barcelona this evening. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 30, 2010 2:00:13 GMT
To be honest give me the sheer endeavour and spirit of our team, club and fans anyday. Watching Stoke nowadays is almost the only football I watch. I truly cant get excited or wound up about anything else. Im sick of being told, what is great football, "ooh spain, play lovely neat passing football", or "cor, did you see how many passes Citeh, just made to each other", "Barcelona are from another planet", and Wenger "We dont deserve this treatment, because of the way we play". And dont get me started on England and 2nd rate players earning £250,000 a week!!!! Its all a load of bollox, the only football that matters is winning football, dont matter how you do it, but just win, always has been, always will be. If you can do it with a bit of style great, if you hoof it long, then defend like your life depends on it, great again, but WIN. And Bayern, I aint having a pop at you, but was there any better football, than the play that led to Ric's chance that he put just wide on Saturday, or Tunny's deft back heel to Ethers for the goal? Doubtful, and were a bunch of hoofers apparently. With respect Pick, if that's the case ... why on earth are you opening a thread about Spanish football and then even going on to contribute to it?  |
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Post by PickSCFC on Nov 30, 2010 2:02:01 GMT
but as a game for a neutral it wasnt much of a spectacle was it? a 5-0 thrashing is a wank game for a neutral If you thought that was wank football, I think you might as well give another sport a go The football played by Barcelona is about as good as you are going to to get it against another very good side If you want better, good luck to you! i didnt even watch it you numpty ;D but a 5-0 hammering doesnt seem like a good game too watch imo |
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Post by PickSCFC on Nov 30, 2010 2:03:43 GMT
I agree, I just couldnt give a shit about watching any other sides, imm only interested in watching stoke and and other prem games that could affect us With respect Pick, if that's the case ... why on earth are you opening a thread about Spanish football and then even going on to contribute to it? I saw that there were alot of replies on the thread so i wondered what all the fuss was about, I then decided to give my opinion on the matter. And I like a bloody good arguement ;D |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 30, 2010 2:15:15 GMT
With respect Pick, if that's the case ... why on earth are you opening a thread about Spanish football and then even going on to contribute to it? I saw that there were alot of replies on the thread so i wondered what all the fuss was about, I then decided to give my opinion on the matter. And I like a bloody good arguement ;D You've got an opinon, that you believe people would think is of value to read, whilst at exactly the same time, admitting that you have absolutely zero interest in the subject matter being discussed? Stunning ...  |
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Post by PickSCFC on Nov 30, 2010 2:18:32 GMT
I saw that there were alot of replies on the thread so i wondered what all the fuss was about, I then decided to give my opinion on the matter. And I like a bloody good arguement ;D You've got an opinon, that you believe people would think is of value to read, whilst at exactly the same time, admitting that you have absolutely zero interest in the subject matter being discussed? Stunning ... My biggest arguement on here was that people were saying that its the best game they have ever seen but I cant see how a 5-0 dicking can be a good game to watch for a neutral, its not competitive is it? |
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 30, 2010 2:27:19 GMT
You've got an opinon, that you believe people would think is of value to read, whilst at exactly the same time, admitting that you have absolutely zero interest in the subject matter being discussed? Stunning ... My biggest arguement on here was that people were saying that its the best game they have ever seen but I cant see how a 5-0 dicking can be a good game to watch for a neutral, its not competitive is it? No, you can't see how it could be a good game to watch for you. Fair enough if you're not interested, but I don't know why you're getting a cob on about others enjoying it. We're talking about a masterclass in the sport we all love. This was Barcelona giving a footballing lesson to Real Madrid (not Almeria or Osasuna or whoever). Personally I find it puzzling that you wouldn't even countenance watching a truly word class club side take another top class side apart (especially one that contains Cristiano Ronaldo), but that's up to you. As Paul says, for something you care so little about, you seem to have a right bee in your bonnet about it.  |
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Post by PickSCFC on Nov 30, 2010 2:29:09 GMT
My biggest arguement on here was that people were saying that its the best game they have ever seen but I cant see how a 5-0 dicking can be a good game to watch for a neutral, its not competitive is it? No, you can't see how it could be a good game to watch for you. Fair enough if you're not interested, but I don't know why you're getting a cob on about others enjoying it. We're talking about a masterclass in the sport we all love. This was Barcelona giving a footballing lesson to Real Madrid (not Almeria or Osasuna or whoever). Personally I find it puzzling that you wouldn't even countenance watching a truly word class club side take another top class side apart (especially one that contains Cristiano Ronaldo), but that's up to you. As Paul says, for something you care so little about, you seem to have a right bee in your bonnet about it. ;D Ive not got a cob on ffs ive just given my opinion, thats what this board is for isnt it? |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 30, 2010 2:29:38 GMT
Mate if you'd actually watched the match, you would realise why people will talk about it for a very long time to come.
It's certainly one of the best games I've ever seen, simply because Barcelona were just soooo good.
It didn't need to be a two horse race for people to get excited about what they were watching ... it was a true master class in the art of the game we all love.
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Post by nickscfc on Nov 30, 2010 2:43:48 GMT
I don't get it, who plays the mama role for Barca? ;D Mama doesnt do Spain. Full of little pussies. ;D |
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Post by Irish Stokie on Nov 30, 2010 3:04:02 GMT
To be fair, I can't see what Pick is saying and although Barca played exceptionally well I wouldn't put that game anywhere near the best game I have ever seen. I would be inclined to prefer games that are end to end and where the favourite to win changes hands every few mins. Obviously this game will last long in the memory due to the scoreline but for me it's nowhere near the best game iv seen.
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Post by aztattooedsean777 on Nov 30, 2010 3:22:04 GMT
I will admit to being impressed how Barcelona destroyed Madrid yet again today.
That said, I still am annoyed at Barcelona's arrogance that whenever they are partially touched they whine and bitch.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 30, 2010 3:25:22 GMT
I didn't think they did. Madrid did a lot of off the ball bullshit that Huth would have been proud about and that the ref missed but they tended to go down injured or just get on with it. The only time I can think was when Messi got an arm across his from Carvalho, he did make a meal of it. I was surprised though at how little they did whine, considering some of the treatment being handed by Real.
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 30, 2010 3:34:20 GMT
I didn't think they did. Madrid did a lot of off the ball bullshit that Huth would have been proud about and that the ref missed but they tended to go down injured or just get on with it. The only time I can think was when Messi got an arm across his from Carvalho, he did make a meal of it. I was surprised though at how little they did whine, considering some of the treatment being handed by Real. I agree, I think for a team as full of itty-bitty tippy-tappy international superstars as they are, they are really not that guilty of this crime. Even when Puyol went down having been shoved in the face he thought better of it and got up straight away. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 30, 2010 3:37:39 GMT
It was good to see and even with that Messi arm round the face, You've seen players walk for Carvalho did and how in particular stayed on the pitch I'll never know. At the end when there was the 40 man brawl did You notice the Barcelona player in the background take a quick free kick to himself and then run off towards the Real goal? ;D edit-here is a video of it, 15 seconds in. It was only a 20 man brawl at this stage though. ;D And here are the highlights; www.youtube.com/profile?user=MasFutbolTV&annotation_id=annotation_61444&feature=iv#p/u/0/tARwUjvU-hM |
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Post by tijuanabrass on Nov 30, 2010 3:53:01 GMT
I hope that diving, Madieran fop shed a few tears.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Nov 30, 2010 8:40:49 GMT
Unfortunately missed the first half, ironically I was at a spanish class. I switched on the telly at about 50 minutes and saw the two villa goals in quick succession, Barca just embarrassed the madrid side for the final half hour. This wasn't tiki-taka, Barca were playing through Madrid as TP like to say, simply carving them open. An absolute humiliation for Mourinho given all the shit he has dished out.
The only drawback is that so many have been saying that this game and the return at the bernabou are basically the league condensed down into 2 games such is the dominance of these two. With that result la liga might be over in November.
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 30, 2010 8:48:54 GMT
The thing is it's commonmplace for Barcelona to dismantle sides. BUT the thing is this time it was done against a top team filled wioth stars and a tactical matser at the helm.
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Post by gilberto on Nov 30, 2010 8:56:40 GMT
The thing is it's commonmplace for Barcelona to dismantle sides. BUT the thing is this time it was done against a top team filled wioth stars and a tactical matser at the helm. exactly joe. it wasnt JUST real madrid. it was real madrid with MOURHINO in charge. it was the first time he'd ever lost a match by 4 goals let alone 5. barcelona were stunning. the old cliche comes to mind, real were lucky to get 0. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 30, 2010 9:01:23 GMT
Biggest defeat of Mourinho's career
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Nov 30, 2010 13:00:40 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 30, 2010 13:16:33 GMT
Great read Pb - thanks for the link. Barcelona completed 636 passes, of which Xavi alone completed 114 out of 117, against a starting XI that cost 300 million euros, who were unbeaten under Mourniho. Kind of puts it all into context doesn't it? |
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 30, 2010 13:19:16 GMT
I agree, I just couldnt give a shit about watching any other sides, imm only interested in watching stoke and and other prem games that could affect us With respect Pick, if that's the case ... why on earth are you opening a thread about Spanish football and then even going on to contribute to it? Thats what I was thinking Weird when people either open threads or contribute to threads on subjects they claim they couldn't give a toss about!!! What is that all about?  Cue Amateur Psychologists Actually I don't know why I give a toss about those who couldn't give a toss  |
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 30, 2010 13:32:14 GMT
Great read Pb - thanks for the link. Barcelona completed 636 passes, of which Xavi alone completed 114 out of 117, against a starting XI that cost 300 million euros, who were unbeaten under Mourniho. Kind of puts it all into context doesn't it? I was just going to comment on this - the stats from that article are boggling. Xavi's 114 passes was the sixth time he's gone over a hundred in a game - only one player has even done it once - Xabi Alonso, who completed fewer than 50 yesterday. It was hypnotic to watch at the time but only now is it sinking in what a sublime performance that was by Barça... |
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Nov 30, 2010 13:50:43 GMT
I've always really liked Xavi (well, who doesn't). During the world cup he really was the heartbeat of the spain side. He is not always the player who makes the final pass (Iniesta is possibly better at playing through balls to create scoring chances, or at least he attempts it more often) or scores loads of goals but even if you hate tiki-taka you still have to doff your cap at his movement, awareness and touch in the middle of the park, he just looks effortless, graceful and completely error free. The spain and barca sides wouldn't be able to do what they do so well without him.
Good chance of winning the Ballon D'Or for him.
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Post by lordb on Nov 30, 2010 14:15:54 GMT
all styles of football have their place
after that to me there are good exponents & bad one's
e.g. Barca play the possesion slow slow quick game better than anyone wheras Man City on saturday were shite at it
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Post by mayf on Nov 30, 2010 17:07:43 GMT
Possibly the best performance I have seen from any team in 40 odd years of watching football,especially when you take into account the opposition.....and that's the 1st time I've watched a Spanish game ! Messi is something else.....sign him up Tone  |
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Post by slangking on Nov 30, 2010 17:29:34 GMT
This wasn't even the best they have played this season, I saw them at the Nou Camp vs Sevilla, far better goals in that game Messi was unstoppable. R.Madrid were just completely over-awed and didn't show up, a few non-descript goals, what is all the fuss about?
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Post by swampmongrel on Nov 30, 2010 18:28:25 GMT
e.g. Barca play the possesion slow slow quick game better than anyone wheras Man City on saturday were shite at it This is right. There was an idiot on the Guardian website banging on about how many 'successful' passes Man City made on the weekend. How is a pass successful if it doesn't ultimately lead to an attempt on goal. Holding on to possession is fine but eventually you have to do something with it. Barca are magic at the possession game Arsenal and Man City not so much. |
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