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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 16, 2020 10:24:19 GMT
Aggressive testing is the key to collect data to be analyzed to be able to take a wise decision.
No testing = no data = a decision that may succeed or fail.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 15, 2020 23:21:45 GMT
A suspected case of corona here in Egypt, and this is the response everyone wants to see the patient, i bet this virus will get crazy here
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 15, 2020 22:39:02 GMT
The whole issue is too vague, I read today news coming from France that NSAIDS (Anti-inflammatory medications) do more harm than benefits and help the virus to attack the person so they recommend only paracetamol. I read another topic about negative effects of anti hypertensive medications as angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACEs) inhibitors and an angiotensin receptor blockers (ARBs) on people susceptible to corona All articles lack scientific proof as research needs long time, there is no treatment guidelines for the cases and every country/hospital try different medications like other antivirals (not for corona) and anti-malaria ...etc and also without scientific proof. What is certain regarding underlying health conditions is conditions that cause immune-suppression like diabetes, AIDS, malnutrition, organ transplantation, certain medications...etc., other conditions are still debateful. You really are a Doctor. haha I think everybody is reading about Corona now, either HCPs or not but still all of us dont know anything confirmed yet about this xxx virus. Obviously people in the forum here are more educated and write things that makes sense (either you agree or disagree with but it makes sense) than what I read from Facebook pages managed by children here in Egypt who are posting myths and misinformation every few minutes.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 15, 2020 22:23:53 GMT
One thing that I dont get is this "underlying health conditions" Correct me if i'm wrong but they are not telling us what "underlying health conditions" these people who have sadly passed away have/had. It's easy to assume that these "underlying health conditions" are serious conditions that would normally hospitalise or seriosly debilitate people normally - resulting in 99% of the population thinking "I'm alright, I don't have that". But what if these "underlying health conditions" are things like high blood pressure for which millions are taking tablets, or high cholesterol (aren't there tens of millions on statins). If this is the case, is his why we are not being told what "underlying health conditions" means. I'm sure if they said some of the deceased had high blood pressure or were taking statins we would see society cease to function because millions would think they are at risk. The whole issue is too vague, I read today news coming from France that NSAIDS (Anti-inflammatory medications) do more harm than benefits and help the virus to attack the person so they recommend only paracetamol. I read another topic about negative effects of anti hypertensive medications as angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACEs) inhibitors and an angiotensin receptor blockers (ARBs) on people susceptible to corona All articles lack scientific proof as research needs long time, there is no treatment guidelines for the cases and every country/hospital try different medications like other antivirals (not for corona) and anti-malaria ...etc and also without scientific proof. What is certain regarding underlying health conditions is conditions that cause immune-suppression like diabetes, AIDS, malnutrition, organ transplantation, certain medications...etc., other conditions are still debateful.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 15, 2020 22:10:22 GMT
It's a serious situation obviously but I still couldn't fail to see the comedy value to be had in the fact that my Ocado van keeps going backwards - it was half way there five minutes ago!
Ok I give up - can't get image to display
In Egypt they made a comic which means Van Dijk will never get corona because he will go backwards whenever corona starts to attack him.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 15, 2020 21:33:03 GMT
Thanks for clarification. The British approach toward corona is strange, I am monitoring the articles, stats...etc. coming from there to understand the situation, I wish it will succeed but i think they will be obligated to lock-down like other European countries. I know some people working in NHS and they told me ICUs will not be enough if the gov decided to continue in building herd immunity. May be the British gov. knows something about Corona that the whole world doesnt know. Mate I don't profess to be an expert. There are certainly others on here who seem to know far more than me. But I think there's no doubt at some point we will go into lockdown but with the strategy the British Government has adopted the timing of that lockdown is crucial. It has to be just before the NHS gets overwhelmed for it to work properly. I think. Don't ask me why. I saw the vid of the man with the hole in his Coke bottle and I still didn't understand why. I understand, it is more of political decisions than being health decisions, governments are deciding based on pros and cons of every decision from economical vs health point of view. For example in Egypt, decisions are taken by the army not the ministry of health, they suspended schools and univ. although number of cases is still 100-120 cases allover the country, the response from people was getting a vacation and going for malls, shopping ...etc., I predict they will apply more roles soon to obligate people to stay at home.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 15, 2020 21:26:11 GMT
And what about re-infection like what happened in China and Japan? this is most worrying thing regarding the herd immunity experiment. Surely that's a worry for the lockdown model as well though? Once you release everyone it just kicks off again as bad as ever because no-ones immune. The lock-down approach gives hospitals more time to deal with the patients, without it they need to work with 400-500% hospital capacity to be able to deal with the spikes.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 15, 2020 21:23:35 GMT
Sorry my English is not helping me to understand, what do you mean by "your gov", the Egyptian one? I think he's mistaken you for a Brit Doc. Don't know whether that's a compliment or insult. Certainly a compliment to your grasp of the English language. Thanks for clarification. The British approach toward corona is strange, I am monitoring the articles, stats...etc. coming from there to understand the situation, I wish it will succeed but i think they will be obligated to lock-down like other European countries. I know some people working in NHS and they told me ICUs will not be enough if the gov decided to continue in building herd immunity. May be the British gov. knows something about Corona that the whole world doesnt know.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 15, 2020 21:14:46 GMT
If South Korea manage to avoid a second peak following their prima facie success at stopping the first peak despite being caught on the back foot, then they’ve really done a sterling job. So much depends on the viability of any immunity conferred by contracting the virus and whether it will end up being seasonal. The thing that confuses me about the 'herd immunity' experiment, they've said that they're going to need at least 60% of the population to become infected for it to work. Well 18% of us are officially old, so they're going to want those people to stay home and not catch it, that means they're going to want nearly 6 out of every 8 of us who are left, to catch it. What if that doesn't actually happen and ultimately, say only 4 or 5 out of 8 catch it, are we going to the end up with a lot of very sick people but the experiment has failed and we haven't even achieved 'herd immunity'? And what about re-infection like what happened in China and Japan? this is most worrying thing regarding the herd immunity experiment.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 15, 2020 21:12:41 GMT
I believe early aggressive precautions is the key for the least mortality rate possible, a bet on building herd immunity for the whole population is too risky and inhuman for me. I also believe the healthcare system in USA is way better than anywhere else, when USA decides to apply travel restrictions on UK, it means they admit the approach by UK gov is not on the right pathway. Funny you should say that. Over here many people complain about having one of the worst healthcare systems in the world and are currently wishing we had the approach your gov is taking. Sorry my English is not helping me to understand, what do you mean by "your gov", the Egyptian one?
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 15, 2020 21:07:33 GMT
I believe early aggressive precautions is the key for the least mortality rate possible, a bet on building herd immunity for the whole population is too risky and inhuman for me. I also believe the healthcare system in USA is way better than anywhere else, when USA decides to apply travel restrictions on UK, it means they admit the approach by UK gov is not on the right pathway.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 14, 2020 14:34:30 GMT
United Kingdom is fighting against Corona in a strange way except if they know something the others dont know, I dont have any idea if this strategy will succeed or not but this is very risky especially with the high percentage of old people there and shortage in NHS, any failure will be out of control and thousands will die, I read news about re-infection with the virus in China and Japan for recovered patients which makes a bet on creating herd immunity for the whole population very risky.
We are applying the same strategy in Egypt but the number of cases is fewer and the resources of the country is much less than UK.
I wish both countries succeed in that but it doesn't go with my gut, and i am expecting more precautions to be applied in both countries.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 13, 2020 6:51:53 GMT
How is the normal life and daily activities in UK currently? I see number of patients and died people increases daily but I did not read any thing about actions like what has been done for example in Italy, it is only about advice and general precautions? Do you think more actions are going to be done in the upcoming days and what will it be, either regarding football or normal life? We have Corona virus in Egypt too, but obviously from the daily maps the virus spreads fast in cold climate countries, in addition many people may get the virus and deal with it as a flu without being detected. However, WHO announced the virus can survive hot and humid weather: news.mb.com.ph/2020/02/08/who-ph-2019-ncov-can-survive-both-hot-humid-climates/
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 13, 2020 6:45:33 GMT
The Oatcake forum
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 11, 2020 2:55:31 GMT
Looks like the world is going to take a break from the life for few weeks, although the mortality rate of the virus is low but it is very contagious and people get infected easily and everywhere.
Liverpool fans are certainly worried about their title, cancelling the league sooner or later means they will not win it officially even if they win it mathematically.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 7, 2020 15:55:08 GMT
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Post by Dr Hesham on Feb 29, 2020 20:13:12 GMT
Well deserved for Watfrod
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Post by Dr Hesham on Feb 29, 2020 0:19:32 GMT
They will win the league soon, worst case scenario they will continue the league without fans same as Italy.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Feb 26, 2020 4:04:22 GMT
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Post by Dr Hesham on Feb 14, 2020 20:17:18 GMT
In a way good as I hate man citeh. In another way I hope they take UEFA to court and ffp is fucked off. Wonder if they'll do the same to someone like PSG. Doubt it cause they just don't want English clubs dominating europe. UEFA did the same after Hysel, banned all English clubs for 5 years becuase they were becoming too dominant. Yes, English teams are dominating Europe currently as the finals last year were Liverpool vs Spurs and Chelsea vs Arsenal but Man City never dominated Europe.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Feb 14, 2020 19:50:07 GMT
1. Burnley
2. Man City
3. Spurs
4. Chelsea
5. Newcastle
6. Southampton
7. Bournemouth
8. Man United
9. Watford
10. Sheffield United
11. Wolves
12. West Ham
13. Leicester City
14. Norwich City
15. Brighton
16. Everton
17. Crystal Palace
18. Aston Villa
19. Arsenal
20. Liverpool
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Post by Dr Hesham on Feb 14, 2020 19:09:50 GMT
Who may be Sheffield United if they continue on the same level. Worst thing that could possibly happen to Sheffield United, I hope they just miss out on it. It will affect them in the league but still playing in Champions League is better than Europa League
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Post by Dr Hesham on Feb 14, 2020 18:58:38 GMT
"The reigning Premier League champions have also been fined 30m euros" UEFA are making money through the Emirati owners in the same way Trump is making money through Saudi kings.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Feb 14, 2020 18:46:06 GMT
Doies that mean 5th place will get CL place? Could be good news for someone! Who may be Sheffield United if they continue on the same level.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Feb 14, 2020 18:41:11 GMT
Good for the Champions League
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Post by Dr Hesham on Feb 14, 2020 14:16:38 GMT
Yes, this forum changed a lot in my understanding for British people. Actually before joining the Oatcake I thought most of people in UK are racists (I have been to UK once, and there was no racism against me but this is the image in my mind since childhood for no specific reason, probably because we were studying the colonization period in the school or whatever), during my stay here this image in my mind has changed a lot and I started to feel we as Egyptians are more racists (Ignorance more than racism) than British. (Note: I also cant apply what I see here for the entire UK as this is a small sample).I cant consider myself as a real fan for the team but I am in love with this forum and the people here, this is why I wish the best for the team and i keep following the results every week. Before registering here few years ago I was worried people will criticize me for being here for Ramadan but since the 1st day and I always felt comfortable due to an inner feeling of being welcomed. By the way one of my Egyptian friends used to work as a doc in a hospital in Stoke on Trent and he was very happy with his stay there and with the people, he was just in hate with the NHS . Very pleased to hear you are an ardent follower of the Oatcake, but I fear for your sanity 😁😉 Actually since the relegation and also the poor results in championship the forum has become very depressing (past tense is become/became dont remember ", and when I see this I always remember those who kept posting we want to get relegated to play fair football without PL bias to big teams and to keep beating all teams here and there. Football in England is crazy, same as the performance curve of the team has declined a lot in the last 2 years, it can incline suddenly and I hope for that.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Feb 13, 2020 13:43:47 GMT
So the main reason is the location of the stadium , not the city itself. A Scottish comedian, Billy Connoly described Stoke-on-Trenet (the municipal city) as making you feel about as friendly as a fart in a spacesuit - but I think you've been welcomed by us Dr Hesham?😁👍 Yes, this forum changed a lot in my understanding for British people. Actually before joining the Oatcake I thought most of people in UK are racists (I have been to UK once, and there was no racism against me but this is the image in my mind since childhood for no specific reason, probably because we were studying the colonization period in the school or whatever), during my stay here this image in my mind has changed a lot and I started to feel we as Egyptians are more racists (Ignorance more than racism) than British. (Note: I also cant apply what I see here for the entire UK as this is a small sample).I cant consider myself as a real fan for the team but I am in love with this forum and the people here, this is why I wish the best for the team and i keep following the results every week. Before registering here few years ago I was worried people will criticize me for being here for Ramadan but since the 1st day and I always felt comfortable due to an inner feeling of being welcomed. By the way one of my Egyptian friends used to work as a doc in a hospital in Stoke on Trent and he was very happy with his stay there and with the people, he was just in hate with the NHS .
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Post by Dr Hesham on Feb 11, 2020 15:29:41 GMT
So the main reason is the location of the stadium , not the city itself.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Feb 11, 2020 3:16:36 GMT
Everybody say that but I cant get it, why is Stoke on Trent (Britania Stadium) colder than other cities at night in Winter although it is not far from other big stadiums and no one mention difficulties there regarding weather?
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Post by Dr Hesham on Feb 9, 2020 21:21:30 GMT
I thought AC Milan is back, but unfortunately they are far from being back. It is shame kids nowadays know PSG and Man City while they dont know AC Milan.
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