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Post by manmarking on Apr 7, 2017 11:27:19 GMT
Oh great, a music thread. Tjought id drop a smiley on Didn't know you spoke Norwegian, mate
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Post by manmarking on Apr 5, 2017 13:52:39 GMT
And yet you're allowed to lecture all and sundry on what is and isn't racist. By the by, not all Jewish people are "white", either in their appearance or in how they'd identify themselves. Yer daft racist. Clifftard back to namecalling and strawman arguments. Show me where i've lectured anyone on being racist, i've stated something widely accepted as being anti-semitic is anti semitic. Of course people of all nationalities and skin colours can be jewish, it's a religion not a nationality, what an epically silly strawman argument even for you. I didn't name-call mate. I called you a racist because you said something racist. I just stated a fact. Of course you name-called but then you're allowed to. Goes without saying, doesn't it Also, nice strawman but I'm not the one who brought skin colour into it; you did. You clearly differentiated between Jewish people and "non-white" ones when, as you now admit, there may be no difference in many cases. At least you admit you were wrong
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Post by manmarking on Apr 5, 2017 12:58:44 GMT
Well apart from suggesting Hitler who killed millions of Jews supported zionism nothing wrong at all - it's strange how people feel confident to tell jewish people what they should find anti-semitic or not, just betting you wouldn't be as confident telling a non-white person what they should find racist or not. I suggest you look at the number of anti semitic attacks in the UK, the figures tell a different story to you anecdotal evidence. There isn't antisemitism within the UK and the figures you speak of are nothing compared non white incidents. I'd be confident in telling anyone they're wrong regardless of race. I myself am from Jewish heritage. Ken wasn't antisemitic and there isn't an issue within society. Your made up bollox doesn't change that reality. There is antisemitism in the UK to be fair mate.
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Post by manmarking on Apr 5, 2017 12:57:58 GMT
What's he actually said that was wrong? Full of cunts who couldn't give a fuck about racism. The UK doesn't have a problem with anti Semitism. Apart from linking Jews to wealth i have never heard anything that could be construed as a anti Jewish, it doesn't exist. By the same token i could walk into any boozer and without fail you'd hear the words paki, ragheads, asylum seekers etc etc. Well apart from suggesting Hitler who killed millions of Jews supported zionism nothing wrong at all - it's strange how people feel confident to tell jewish people what they should find anti-semitic or not, just betting you wouldn't be as confident telling a non-white person what they should find racist or not. I suggest you look at the number of anti semitic attacks in the UK, the figures tell a different story to you anecdotal evidence. And yet you're allowed to lecture all and sundry on what is and isn't racist. By the by, not all Jewish people are "white", either in their appearance or in how they'd identify themselves. Yer daft racist.
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Post by manmarking on Apr 5, 2017 12:18:30 GMT
What's he actually said that was wrong? Full of cunts who couldn't give a fuck about racism. The UK doesn't have a problem with anti Semitism. Apart from linking Jews to wealth i have never heard anything that could be construed as a anti Jewish, it doesn't exist. By the same token i could walk into any boozer and without fail you'd hear the words paki, ragheads, asylum seekers etc etc. The EE board is seemingly full of racists and racism apologists piously lecturing the world on the evils of racism (to be fair, they would know I suppose ) Ken is a fuckwit. I've no idea of the factual (in)accuracy of what he said. The Regular EE Keyboard Battalion wouldn't have the humility to admit this but I'll freely accept I'm not an expert on the history of Zionism. If it was inaccurate then clearly more should be done and the Labour Party should be ashamed of itself. But quite why the likes of Todger and fraise (and even carps on previous occasions ) feel they have a right to moral outrage is unfathomable. The very mob which advocates using Nazi tactics on Muslims. Anyone would think they're just amoral opportunists....
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Apr 4, 2017 15:40:55 GMT
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Post by manmarking on Apr 4, 2017 15:40:55 GMT
 Really!? Today? Just an accident right. No doubt The Sun will run another inflammatory front page and Madrid will condescendingly tell the UK to calm down. I guess I'll be accused of over reaction and somehow May will get the blame. Whatever. We do it all the time to other countries including Spain. You reap what you sow. It's the international equivalent of #BANTZ. Has anyone died? When is Michael Howard sending in the task force?
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Post by manmarking on Apr 4, 2017 12:32:14 GMT
Spain can say and do whatever it likes, just like we can. These negotiations are dog eat dog. And once we've left, Spain can ( and probably will) play even more funny buggers at the border than it already does. The EU is bound to side with Spain wherever humanly possible too. Realpolitik innit. Quite. A mate of mine worked as a border guard on the Gib side so I know the daft games that often get played. Most Gibraltarians keep a car in one of many huge parks in La Linea so they don't have to put up with the constant queues to get through the border by car. They're well used to putting up with the bollocks that comes from Madrid. It doesn't change the fact that that Gib is UK sovereign territory, and the EU will treat it as such regardless of what they say now. The EU will recognise our sovereign territory but after we've left, realistically they will let Spain say/do whatever it likes up to a point. There are people on here and on the backbenches of the Tory party that will get all het up about that. But the pragmatic reality of leaving the EU was always going to be that some things would become easier and some more difficult. You can't make a tortilla without breaking some eggs and all that
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Post by manmarking on Apr 4, 2017 11:11:01 GMT
I voted Leave, you soft fuck. I'm just able to see things for what they are without getting all emotional and teary-eyed-nationalist about them. Fuck off back to your "Keep Calm and Carry on Ranting"-branded box and look up "self-awareness" in the dictionary. You're one of the most pathetic, fawning apologists going. Provided, of course, that the thing you're apologising for is right-wing and/or racist Deary me this is a poor effort mate. This character that you're 'in' this morning is far too aggressive. It's almost up to your post pub offerings. I'm not sure if it's just your adrenaline level after Jeremy Kyle but you'll have to smarten this act up. Nowhere near as good as some of your others. "Fuck off" "pathetic" "fawning apologist" "racist". No mate. Too much too soon. You need to let the character traits grow organically before posting the abuse. Have a little bit of patience with the craft. You're snatching at it. I'm afraid it's a D- today but hopefully you'll go away and smooth out some of those wrinkles. Quick translation: you realise you were wrong about the negotiating position earlier. Don't worry, your secret's safe with me Good luck dodging all those violent hordes of blacks on your way to the Con Club, Todgerz
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Post by manmarking on Apr 4, 2017 10:28:38 GMT
EU's draft position - "After the United Kingdom leaves the Union, no agreement between the EU and the United Kingdom may apply to the territory of Gibraltar without the agreement between the Kingdom of Spain and the United Kingdom."
Deliberately divisive, verging on aggressive. Express mention of Spain being involved in Gibraltar's economic future. The EU have stated their top priority is citizens rights but under the guise of economics they're very happy to threaten to leave the fate of Gibraltarians until after the negotiations. Shameful. I've read much criticism on May's A50 letter and how it didn't mention Gibraltar. It doesn't mention the Isle of Man, the Channel Islands or St Helena either. I also read the usual apologists describing the EU's opening gambit as 'not surprising' or 'dog eat dog' but little criticism. Also shameful. I voted Leave, you soft fuck. I'm just able to see things for what they are without getting all emotional and teary-eyed-nationalist about them. Fuck off back to your "Keep Calm and Carry on Ranting"-branded box and look up "self-awareness" in the dictionary. You're one of the most pathetic, fawning apologists going. Provided, of course, that the thing you're apologising for is right-wing and/or racist
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Post by manmarking on Apr 4, 2017 8:35:23 GMT
You can explain anything you like Todge; it won't make you any more knowledgeable or right What you've written above is complete gibberish Spain could no more veto a deal on the basis that it includes Stoke than they could veto a deal on the basis it includes Gibraltar - they are both internationally recognised as being under UK jurisdiction. It's also hugely hypocritical given the fact they hold Ceuta and Melilla. Spain can say and do whatever it likes, just like we can. These negotiations are dog eat dog. And once we've left, Spain can ( and probably will) play even more funny buggers at the border than it already does. The EU is bound to side with Spain wherever humanly possible too. Realpolitik innit.
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Post by manmarking on Apr 4, 2017 8:29:35 GMT
You can explain anything you like Todge; it won't make you any more knowledgeable or right What you've written above is complete gibberish When you put 3 smileys after your post. Is that to convince yourself you've said something to win an argument? Because its only working in your eyes No fraise, it's because I'm in character you great eejit
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Post by manmarking on Apr 4, 2017 6:21:33 GMT
You're correct that they all have to agree. Therefore Spain has to agree. Therefore Todger is (ironically) talking out of his arse. Again Wrong again, as per. The EU are trying to seperate Gib from the main trade deal. They say a final deal between the EU and the UK doesn't include Gib automatically unless Spain agrees. So Spain can agree to a deal between the EU and the UK but not agree to a deal between the EU and the UK including Gibraltar. That's the bit that's bollocks. I hope I don't have to explain every stage of these negotiations to you. That would be a rather tiresome two years. You can explain anything you like Todge; it won't make you any more knowledgeable or right What you've written above is complete gibberish
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Post by manmarking on Apr 3, 2017 20:25:52 GMT
Not really. Spain can look and pass comment on the final UK EU deal all they want but Tusk hinting that Spain would have to "agree" any final trade deal between the EU and Gibraltar is bollocks. I thought all 27 had to agree. If Derbyshire and Cheshire county councils decided to build several nuclear power stations on the Staffordshire border would it be unreasonable of Staffs CC to have something to say about it ? You're correct that they all have to agree. Therefore Spain has to agree. Therefore Todger is (ironically) talking out of his arse. Again
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Post by manmarking on Apr 3, 2017 12:18:09 GMT
Why, from the get-go was this reported by ALL media outlets as a "teenager asylum seeker" being attacked? Because the victim was a teenager, an asylum seeker, and he was attacked. Why use 'asylum seeker' and 'hate crime' if it's not spinning it in racial terms?Because the victim was attacked specifically because he was an asylum seeker, and the police's statement said it was a "suspected hate crime". Why try and politicise it instead of just saying we're looking for local black gang members?That is what they've done today in releasing photos of the people that are wanted - although not sure they've mentioned they are in a gang (I've not seen it mentioned that they were in a gang, but not read much news today). Todger enjoys getting himself worked up at abstract things like rivers of blood and how we can't call spades spades anymore. It gives him something to do. It's why he's given to such hyperbole and abject bollocks You might also ask him why he's used deliberately inflammatory language like "black gangs" when he hasn't the faintest idea who's been arrested/charged, and when at least one suspect looks suspiciously like a white man (fake news no doubt) To be fair to him, if the Goat pub was still allowed to erect "No blacks, no dogs, no Irish" signs, then at least some of those responsible wouldn't have been able to get tanked up and this might not have happened. We could've all been merrily getting on with the important business of hating the asylum seeker for coming over here and stealing our jobs and our benefits. As it is, the bastard is now stealing our national sympathy too. Fucking snowflakes/SJWs/Remoaners/lefties/socialists/do-gooders etc etc etc......
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Post by manmarking on Mar 27, 2017 14:19:37 GMT
White noise. Although not having you posting nonsense all over the shop these last couple of weeks has been refreshing. That new job must be keeping you busy. Clitty is back  to ruin the EE board yet again, I see he is advocating Nazi measures to deal with a real enemy within rather than the measures used by the Nazis to deal with Jews by AH, Corbyn and Co. take note if you ever gain power in this country this is how anti Semitists deal with Jews. Carps, can't you see you're embarrassing the moderate wing. Todger is trying to make a reasoned, logical case (albeit in a poorly reasoned, illogical way). You're the shit on his nice shiny shoes - he's walked into the building to make his case but you're undermining his credibility. Ultimately, no one likes a guy who's treading dogshit through the shagpile, no matter how reasoned they might appear Stop and think for a moment why it is that he never likes your posts or responds to them. Your black bomber jacket and Oxblood Docs just ain't welcome down the Conservative Club, I'm afraid fella If you understood anything about Naziism, you'd know that we can't just go straight to being overtly racist like you - bricking people's windows, telling people to "go home" and such. I've no doubt it's great lolz (and probably a lot to do with why you were fired from the Jobcentre) but it's not mainstream yet. Let people like Todger smooth the path for you and maybe - just maybe - you'll get your long awaited second Kristallnacht
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Post by manmarking on Mar 26, 2017 13:52:34 GMT
A Muslim-led crowdfunding website for victims has raised more than £7,000 within hours of being set up. Muddassar Ahmed, who witnessed Wednesday's attack, set up the website with Akeela Ahmed on Thursday morning to help victims and their families and "lessen their burden in some way". He called on "British Muslims, mosques, Imams, leaders, and groups to endorse and promote this initiative". Muslims United for London - Launch Good Crowdfunding for PC Palmer - JustGiving What's this even supposed to prove, Todger? Did literally no Muslims donate to the far better publicised Met Police crowdfund? Maybe we should segregate all Muslim activity so we can have a mass compassion measuring competition. While we're at it, we could get Muslims to sew crescents onto their clothing - they'll be easier to keep an eye on that way We could also ban them from driving cars so that they can't run people over in future. We'd potentially be a few taxis and takeaway deliveries shy but it's a small price to pay for keeping those fuckers in check, right? On a serious note, why don't you take a break from EE, fella? You can leave the arduous task of subjecting the world to inane racist shite to some of the other lads for a bit - plenty of able deputies on here Your better half probably misses you
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Post by manmarking on Mar 23, 2017 13:34:14 GMT
nothing will change until we change our foreign policy, we need a commitment to non intervention and to implement a strict travel ban on certain regions for at least 5 years or until the threat subsides. The regional powers in the middle east can deal with ISIS, a group that only exists because we knocked out saddam in iraq then foolishly tried to do the same to Assad. people need to remember, bin laden viewed western foreign policy as his most indispensable ally, without it young muslims would be uninterested in the cause, he carried out 9/11 because he desperately wanted the US to invade afghanistan and was delighted when we hit Iraq and saddam (a long time enemy of his) .. people seemed to forget that as we were attacking the like of Saddam, Gadaffi and Assad that these were the jihadis enemies in that region. the reason western governments can't admit our foreign policy, on a number of levels, is akin to throwing petrol onto a fire is because they don't want to change it, despite our own intelligence agencies warning the likes of Blair he risked stoking islamic terror by going into Iraq. so how to defeat terror groups ? we could start by not doing exactly what they want us to do ? the action for them is in the reaction, not the act itself. in a nutshell, western governments have blundered and fucked up so badly post 9/11 that they've made the threat far far worse, there's really only one solution now, pack up, get out of the intervention business, come home and bring the draw bridge up on immigrants from a certain region, it;s either that or total capitulation and further attacks like yesterday and ultimately defeat. There's been a real lack of understanding about this enemy, the understanding has been so lacking that we've ended up doing exactly what they wanted, had we done nothing after 9/11 we'd be in a better and safer position right now! Oh do stop spewing your balanced views, mate. For fuck's sake have some respect. Can't you see the bedwetters are busy dreaming up unworkable solutions to stuff they don't understand?
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Post by manmarking on Mar 11, 2017 11:19:14 GMT
Does anyone know why Polish people have designated barbers? I've just seen one and it got me pondering I get that African and Asian hair types may require specialist treatment but do eastern Europeans have a different hair type too? Or is it just a language/cultural thing? Does anyone around hair know the answer?
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Post by manmarking on Feb 23, 2017 20:42:36 GMT
You can add "criticises others for responding with gifs and memes, yet does exactly that when confronted by awkward points" to your self-awareness list, fella I'll take it you haven't a fucking clue who costed Ukip's economic policy. They said it so it must've happened Oops, time for meds overdue again? Making fun at the expense of people with mental health issues. Tut tut. Still not answered the question I note
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Post by manmarking on Feb 23, 2017 20:39:17 GMT
I've not seen him particularly intolerant of difference of opinion to be honest mate. Think he's just trying to have what's known as a discussion Or is intolerance now defined as "doesn't agree with everything TDC says"? Not at all, I'm open & tolerant of all opinions. I will call them out when I see fit though... Like how your little gimmick has become really boring. It was mildly amusing at first to use the "look at me, I write in Italics, I must be **************" shit, but it ran its course a long, long time ago. You've ended up turning into a Waggy, someone who has massively overused their gimmick & has become completely unfunny. You're anything but these days mate. You've turned into one of those angry old EE warriors, hell-bent on working yourself up into a froth of rage before the facts are in. Having a go at Gods when he's clearly not been remotely rude about others' opinions. That's just tonight's example. The other day chock full of fear and loathing about a Question Time audience you still haven't even set eyes on. Now complaining about intolerance and italics and the phantom ************** - what a crock of shite. Do us all a favour and grow a pair
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Post by manmarking on Feb 23, 2017 19:34:12 GMT
Yes I'm certainly not saying all is well, far from it, only that the best/only hope is an open, tolerant society and I agree education and skills are key. A tolerant society like one which would be 'tolerant' towards a city/people which vote for a party with different ideals to your own? I've not seen him particularly intolerant of difference of opinion to be honest mate. Think he's just trying to have what's known as a discussion Or is intolerance now defined as "doesn't agree with everything TDC says"?
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Post by manmarking on Feb 23, 2017 19:28:34 GMT
You can add "criticises others for responding with gifs and memes, yet does exactly that when confronted by awkward points" to your self-awareness list, fella I'll take it you haven't a fucking clue who costed Ukip's economic policy. They said it so it must've happened From The Financial Times..... Fully costed, and independently verified by independent economic think-tank the Centre for Economic and Business Research, Mr Farage brandished the 76-page document as evidence that Ukip has finally grown up. Thanks mate. The consultancy whose president was recently filmed smoking crack. Then again, you'd need to be to approve Ukip's budget
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Post by manmarking on Feb 23, 2017 18:22:49 GMT
Look mate. I've seen you post some pretty sloppy dogturdish posts on here over the years. But this is a new low of self-awareness even for you. You spent literally years on this forum throwing yourself on the ground, crying and screaming, protesting about democracy because you lost something or other (your fucking marbles, judging by what you've posted today ). So you have precisely no right to complain of other people doing the exact same You should be trying to build bridges to make your beloved Brexit work. Instead, you've spent every waking second since June being triumphalist and antagonistic towards anyone who differs from your point of view even slightly. Who costed this fucking economic plan of Ukip's anyway? Names, backgrounds? And if you understood a fucking thing about politics and/or economics, you'd know that Corbyn and Greece are two totally different things. You'd also know that cutting your way out of a deficit won't work You can add "criticises others for responding with gifs and memes, yet does exactly that when confronted by awkward points" to your self-awareness list, fella I'll take it you haven't a fucking clue who costed Ukip's economic policy. They said it so it must've happened
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Post by manmarking on Feb 23, 2017 17:21:04 GMT
Correction as people learn more about their history they will turn against ignorant views such as yours. It wasn't Corbyn who propelled wahhabism into the most powerful sect of Islam on the planet, it was good old Churchill. The more you learn the more you understand who your enemy is. That might be relevant if Churchill was standing for election but as he isn't it won't do him much good. He will get wiped out once the full scale of his and McDonnells support for the IRA becomes more widely known. Ahhhh so the general public just need enlightening. Of course. Not as if this is actually just old news that no one particularly gives a fuck about Plus the people at Tory HQ are rather more sensible than their more rabid attack dogs like you. They know they're not exactly on solid ground getting deep into a shit-slinging contest about supporting terrorists
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Post by manmarking on Feb 23, 2017 17:00:56 GMT
What's the city done to deserve you then? You got over your schizoid meltdown from Friday yet mate? Call it a meltdown as much as you like mate, I'm still here You brought a fart to a shit fight and walked away
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Post by manmarking on Feb 23, 2017 16:51:54 GMT
Imagine what would happen to the U.K. with Nutjob in charge? Worse than Zimbabwe? No no, ukips policies are fully independently costed. So maybe not do a new labour aka Greece Ukips problems would be similar to trumps Too many pansies throwing themselves on the ground, crying and screaming, protesting about democracy because they lost. Look mate. I've seen you post some pretty sloppy dogturdish posts on here over the years. But this is a new low of self-awareness even for you. You spent literally years on this forum throwing yourself on the ground, crying and screaming, protesting about democracy because you lost something or other (your fucking marbles, judging by what you've posted today ). So you have precisely no right to complain of other people doing the exact same You should be trying to build bridges to make your beloved Brexit work. Instead, you've spent every waking second since June being triumphalist and antagonistic towards anyone who differs from your point of view even slightly. Who costed this fucking economic plan of Ukip's anyway? Names, backgrounds? And if you understood a fucking thing about politics and/or economics, you'd know that Corbyn and Greece are two totally different things. You'd also know that cutting your way out of a deficit won't work
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Post by manmarking on Feb 23, 2017 13:56:34 GMT
The Cameron government ran up more debt than all the previous Labour governments put together! Wouldn't surprise me one bit.....another cunt cut from the same cloth as Blair and clegg As for Corbyn, imagine what would happen to the uk with his policies Worse than Greece? None of us knows, fraise. He's never had a chance. Same as yer man Nuttall You'll just have to read the tea leaves (or should that be artex?) and let us know what the future holds
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Post by manmarking on Feb 23, 2017 12:44:43 GMT
Mindless Liarbour drones shuffling themselves away from their lathes to vote- it's as predictable as it is sad. Just like a George A Romero film! No wonder this is a forgotten city. Some folk don't change as long- as they get their beer and chippy tea money at the end of the week they're happy. You get the city you deserve. What's the city done to deserve you then?
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Post by manmarking on Feb 22, 2017 22:01:51 GMT
Oh I see, what was letting down the people of Stoke 18 months year ago is now making tough decisions The biggest (but not exclusive) enemy to the people of Stoke in these past 40 years has been the dogmatic, heartless monetarist policies of Thatcher in the 80s and the vicious austerity of the 2010's with the Tories asking the weakest in society to pay for the gluttony of their mates in the City. Sheikhster, I hate the Tories as much as you. Yes The evil cow destroyed our city, yes they've heaped more misery on us since they got back into power but... Lets not pretend that the Labour years were some wonderful Utopia. They're all as shit as eachother & none of them give the slightest fuck about the average Joe in Stoke-on-Trent. Booting Labour out of this entire area, this most safe of Labour safe seats - even if it means having to put up with UKIP for a few years, might, just might, give Labour the wake-up call they need to get back to looking after their proper supporters. ... Unfortunately we all know that Labour will hold onto the seat by a comfortable few thousand votes, so therefore fuck all will change. The issue Labour-wise is twofold, TDC. 1. The local Labour Party has let the area down badly for decades. The lack of imagination, corruption, petty self-aggrandisement and sheer ineptitude of what is, in fact, a relatively small local Labour authority shouldn't be conflated with the actions and intentions of Labour nationally. The Attlee, Wilson and Callaghan governments all tried to help areas like Stoke (with varying degrees of success). 2. That said, New Labour reaped further damage on the area through its extension of the Thatcher programme. This served to amplify the effect of a completely crap local Labour authority, albeit one that existed before and after New Labour. Corbyn therefore lost the trust of the local area long before he ever got to try and change the Labour Party back to what it was meant to be. The trust was lost by Blair, with endless data to prove it. And Labour locally continues to be drab, unimaginative and undynamic. They'll probably remain that way in spite of a Ukip victory. There are no easy answers I'm afraid, short of some kind of external running of the city by people who actually know what they're doing
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Post by manmarking on Feb 22, 2017 21:28:53 GMT
The basic point of Trumps arguement was that whenever anything happens it is always The United States & The United Kingdom which have to go & deal with it. France make the odd contribution here & there, and Germany sit around doing fuck all... But keep expanding their Empire into Eastern Europe & then wanting the US/UK to come & protect them from your comrades. This is simply factually incorrect! Cameron's Libyan adventure was shared with France and with tacit American support! The coalitions involved in Libya and Afghanistan involved several N.A.T.O. countries though as we know the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were American policies! I find it ironic that the anti-Blair brigade who complained about the invasion of Iraq are now suggesting the Americans were carrying us! It simply isn't true! Incidentally, Trump was both for and against the Iraq war publicly. Something else the asshole has lied about! Trump's a big fan of torture (he practises it with his lengthier speeches ). So you'd imagine he probably reminisces fondly about the Iraq War. Unless, of course, it suits him to oppose it retrospectively, in which case he'll do just that instead Actually no, sorry, that's all fake news. He is, in fact, an Apache Indian called Roaring Sphincter who runs a sex shop in Crested Butte, Colorado. Speciality: 21" black mambas. Imagine that up yer shitpipe, lads! Anyway, leave him alone, you 'orrible lying toerags
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