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Post by manmarking on Apr 11, 2017 20:32:19 GMT
thats the problem, people dont know the facts and say things without facts hoping they are true. hours after the out vote there was lots of stuff going about which age and sex group voted out etc. how the fook did they know, who setup a database of 32 million people and analysed it?
The so-called experts knew the 'facts' but got almost every forecast completely wrong. Gove was right: people are sick of experts, a lot of people voted on gut feeling as Frank Field said.
Vote leave had a very impressive slogan: Take back control.
Apparently you're one of us now, fella. Welcome Which one of **************'s many facets will you be focusing on? And should I start a quick music thread before I go to bed? PS. if you want to really drive the thickos wild, use more smileys and italics
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Post by manmarking on Apr 11, 2017 17:48:13 GMT
Your questions in order: 1: Todger has taken the mumf route of ignoring me but occasionally posting to me indirectly. We'll see how that works out for him 2: Your first sentence. 3: I've no idea. I said you've done nothing to make people doubt you're racist. You don't explicitly oppose it (just like all those Muslims who don't explicitly oppose terrorism). And you post almost exclusively about Islam and immigration, often from some very dubious sources. Perhaps you're not racist at all and it's just coincidence. Perhaps you have posted explicitly racist stuff and I haven't noticed. Or perhaps you just lack the cojones of, say, mumf or Harry or carps In answer to '2', if I was generalising about anyone with that sentence, surely it was condescending people In answer to '3', or perhaps it's just 'cos I'm not racist... Infact I've posted numerous times how we've got a lot of shit white British people living here. Perhaps you never notice those posts as there isn't a chance for you to virtue signal over them Anyone with even a basic grasp of English can see that your opening sentence clearly associates the characteristic of condescension with voting Remain On the other hand, even those with an advanced level of English may not know what the flying fuck "virtue signalling" is What is it, and given that every action has an equal and opposite reaction, are you a vice signaller? For someone who claims to be sympathetic to Russia (not without good reason), you don't half Americanize yourself with claptrap alt-right online buzzwords
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Post by manmarking on Apr 11, 2017 17:41:42 GMT
Ay up, what's the matter, isn't Rog playing today? Where in my post did I generalise about all Remainers? And when have I posted anything racist? He'll be asking you to ragequit next. Manbarking bingo. You're an absolutely rubbish troll, mate. It's like being insulted by an amoeba. Back to the bottom set and a smack on the bottom with the big ruler for you You'll never get the combat victories I've enjoyed without more imagination, fella
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Post by manmarking on Apr 11, 2017 17:11:22 GMT
Doesn't surprise me in the slightest that you're ranting and raving and generalising about all Remainers, whilst complaining about them all generalising about all Leavers. Oh, the outrage!The whole "thick racist" conspiracy theory is a neat deflection though, I'll give you that You cry foul on the one hand, while on the other giving no one any particular reason - from your recent posting history - to doubt that that's exactly what you are. Ay up, what's the matter, isn't Rog playing today? Where in my post did I generalise about all Remainers? And when have I posted anything racist? Your questions in order: 1: Todger has taken the mumf route of ignoring me but occasionally posting to me indirectly. We'll see how that works out for him 2: Your first sentence. 3: I've no idea. I said you've done nothing to make people doubt you're racist. You don't explicitly oppose it (just like all those Muslims who don't explicitly oppose terrorism). And you post almost exclusively about Islam and immigration, often from some very dubious sources. Perhaps you're not racist at all and it's just coincidence. Perhaps you have posted explicitly racist stuff and I haven't noticed. Or perhaps you just lack the cojones of, say, mumf or Harry or carps
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Post by manmarking on Apr 11, 2017 13:31:57 GMT
Snecklifter is one of my faves but getting less regular in a lot of our local supermarkets. Drinking a bit of Henry Westons vintage cider at the moment-8.2%.Being almost bedbown at the moment does help. That's some real stern stuff, that Westons Vintage. At least you haven't got to go far when you inevitably piss the bed, fella
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Post by manmarking on Apr 11, 2017 12:58:37 GMT
You're getting confused between deselecting elected representatives which I was talking about and referenda which is something else. I love your condescending attitude, doesn't surpirse me in the slightest that you voted Remain & think all Brexit voters are thick racists who're not worthy of having an opinion. The people of this country didn't like what Junker, Merkel & the gang were doing to us, so we voted out. Deal with it. Doesn't surprise me in the slightest that you're ranting and raving and generalising about all Remainers, whilst complaining about them all generalising about all Leavers. Oh, the outrage!The whole "thick racist" conspiracy theory is a neat deflection though, I'll give you that You cry foul on the one hand, while on the other giving no one any particular reason - from your recent posting history - to doubt that that's exactly what you are.
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Post by manmarking on Apr 11, 2017 12:02:42 GMT
Are you around over Easter, mm? About time we caught up for a pint. I am actually mate yeah. Seeing friends and family til Monday Fancy the CC after the game?
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Post by manmarking on Apr 11, 2017 11:53:25 GMT
Dear me fraise, is "hypocrite" really an insult now? What if it's factually accurate? You lot are becoming snowflakes in your old age Would you like more trigger warnings in posts from left-wing types? Yer big daft over-sensitive shitwipe Another pissflapper pops up and even likes his own post Not for the first time fraise, you're way off the mark. But you're carrying out your role so keep up the good work
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Post by manmarking on Apr 11, 2017 11:47:14 GMT
The right wing prefer to paint their insults in broader brush strokes, MM. Whether real or imagined, it is irrelevant. Your gays, your ethnics, your snowflakes, your 'liberals'. The great irony is that insults can now flow freely because of the latitude mumf was afforded in his low level hate crimes. Too true, bruv. Too true The other great irony is that, although mumf, carps, Harry et al opened the floodgates for insults on here, they proved least able to cope with their own tactics reversed. To the point that mumf, Harry and fraise ragequit four times between them over about a 6-month period
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Post by manmarking on Apr 11, 2017 11:03:28 GMT
I'm sure crapslingers post on the subject would have been considerably longer had it been the other way around too. As for RogerJones I can't believe what I am reading...the mind boggles. So, have you just recently become a hypocrite or were you born that way? My oh my.... throwing insults is so much easier for the liberal and left side of the board isn't it Try debating with him instead mate, you don't win the argument with insults Dear me fraise, is "hypocrite" really an insult now? What if it's factually accurate? You lot are becoming snowflakes in your old age Would you like more trigger warnings in posts from left-wing types? Yer big daft over-sensitive shitwipe
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Post by manmarking on Apr 11, 2017 9:58:20 GMT
I notice how the white-hating liberal mainstream media and certain race-baiting politicians are ignoring this story now the perpetrators have turned out to mainly be blacks and 'wigga' gang members with absolutely zero affiliation with any right-wing organisations. So, this must be that multi-cultural and ethnic diversity that they're always bleating on about? So most of the perpetrators were white but that didn’t fit your agenda, so you’ve simply rebranded the whites as blacks, or ‘wiggas’. Brilliant. You’d have loved this to be the work of so-called black gangs, just like Todger, wouldn’t you. Life is so much simpler when everything’s black and white innit, blud And besides, online is the only place left where a man can engage in a spot of good old-fashioned black-bashing these days. Gone are the halcyon days of the Stephen Lawrence murder, when white gangs could roam around killing blacks for lolz with impunity. Bloody PC liberal SJW do-gooder apologists! You can’t even leap to completely unfounded racially motivated assumptions about criminals’ ethnicity any more without being branded a racist. Imagine! You could always try asking the white perpetrators to black up like a great flock of manslaughtering minstrels, mate. It might make you look a bit less like a fuckwit
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Egypt
Apr 10, 2017 13:43:43 GMT
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Post by manmarking on Apr 10, 2017 13:43:43 GMT
Too chickenshit to reply directly now are we, Tadger?
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Post by manmarking on Apr 10, 2017 12:54:37 GMT
Love how you structure your posts like hip-hop, mate. Always have, always will. Natural rhythm. Keep up the good work A rare venture onto this side of the board for you, Norman. You feeling ok? Not at all mother, I've posted here plenty before. I tend to find most of the discussion aggressively tedious - not in content, in style - but I do enjoy the lad dreamtheater's work. It's genuinely innovative
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Apr 10, 2017 10:47:06 GMT
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Post by manmarking on Apr 10, 2017 10:47:06 GMT
You could set your watch by it. Norway raises terror threat levels after Oslo bomb find - BBC "A truck ploughed into a Stockholm department store, killing four people and injuring 15 more.... It was the worst attack to hit Scandinavia since the far-right extremist Anders Brevik killed 77 people in Norway in 2011."What part of that sentence is it that you can 'set your watch by'? I think it's the bit where Todger talks bollocks and contradicts himself. It happens at least twice a day
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Apr 10, 2017 9:34:44 GMT
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Post by manmarking on Apr 10, 2017 9:34:44 GMT
Well this is a little awkward. We've got the #jesuisStockholm hashtag on the go at the mo' and we'll be busy shoehorning Anders Breivik into the the news stories tomorrow as the reason for the bomb found in Oslo yesterday. So in all honesty I can't see us getting around to lighting up the Eiffel Tower with the Egyptian flag colours until Tuesday at the earliest. You could set your watch by it. Norway raises terror threat levels after Oslo bomb find - BBC "A truck ploughed into a Stockholm department store, killing four people and injuring 15 more.... It was the worst attack to hit Scandinavia since the far-right extremist Anders Brevik killed 77 people in Norway in 2011."Bloody Nora, Todge, are you a Breivik apologist now too? They do say people get more right-wing as they get older I guess
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Post by manmarking on Apr 9, 2017 16:37:30 GMT
I've said nothing wrong, Todge. You have. And thanks for posting a load more evidence to demonstrate that your "black gangs" claim was dog-whistle bullshit of the lowest order. I wonder why you just can't ever admit you're wrong. Is it because this is your special place where 'er indoors can't hen-peck you to death? Or are you like this at home too? Must be a hoot for the family if so, although in fairness you spend most of your life on here away from them Ha ha ha. You of all people lecturing others about posting on this forum. That's priceless. You only post on here because others allow you to. There are many who know who you are but stop short of really challenging your sad behaviour of multiple personas out of pity. Like that chimp in the zoo that sits in the corner with his finger up his bum eating his own shit. He really should be put out to pasture but we throw him a banana instead. Here are some of those smiley faces you like so much Still wrong I'm afraid, Todge me owd fruit, in every sense. And a very poor attempt at deflection away from those "black gangs" - even by your standards. Straight out of mumf's playbook, and it didn't work too well for him either
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Post by manmarking on Apr 9, 2017 16:06:19 GMT
Wasn't your original knee-jerk reaction though, was it, Todge? You blamed the blacks, equally erroneously. Which makes you just as much of an "apologist" as anyone else Is manmarking your George from Blackadder type 'character'? Excited, interested with faux intelligence and always, always get's it wrong. The original knee jerk was from Diane Abbott, the MSM etc, etc who rushed to their twitter accounts because the guy was an asylum seeker. My foirst posts criticised that and of course people said I was in the wrong. I then post about gangs and blacks after the Met Police released CCTV images of suspects. Which oddly have now been taken down. Anyway, here they are. And after other images were made public. I've said nothing wrong, Todge. You have. And thanks for posting a load more evidence to demonstrate that your "black gangs" claim was dog-whistle bullshit of the lowest order. I wonder why you just can't ever admit you're wrong. Is it because this is your special place where 'er indoors can't hen-peck you to death? Or are you like this at home too? Must be a hoot for the family if so, although in fairness you spend most of your life on here away from them
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Apr 9, 2017 14:40:49 GMT
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Post by manmarking on Apr 9, 2017 14:40:49 GMT
So making correct predictions is now "apologist" behaviour is it? God, you people are sad.
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Post by manmarking on Apr 9, 2017 14:38:42 GMT
Could it have been those black gangs with white people in them that you pointed the finger towards for the Croydon attack? Yes apologies. Mixed race gangs. Not Brexit fuelled angry white supremacists though. Which was the original knee jerk reaction. Wasn't your original knee-jerk reaction though, was it, Todge? You blamed the blacks, equally erroneously. Which makes you just as much of an "apologist" as anyone else
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Post by manmarking on Apr 9, 2017 12:01:47 GMT
What a total and utter prick you are. SGS Chill out Muscle Mary. No official story as been released so all possibilities are still on the table right? Could it have been those black gangs with white people in them that you pointed the finger towards for the Croydon attack?
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Post by manmarking on Apr 9, 2017 11:11:32 GMT
Maybe because he isn't posting on here at the moment but your addled little NF brain is too small and dense to realise How many race-related crimes have you got on your record, fella? Oh dear....... Oh dear what, mate? Pissed yourself?
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Post by manmarking on Apr 9, 2017 11:08:30 GMT
One thing Im sure we can all agree on assuming we stay up and, assuming we keep our manager there's a very obvious and massive clear out of players due and some very hard decisions to be taken including, some of our loyalist most effective employees, as well as some very expensive flops they ALL need to be moved on - that much is obvious top level sport is a ruthless affair and there's absolutely no place for sentimentality or, simple baggage carrying, sorry to say and so a massive summer for Stoke City awaits - that is for sure and for Peter Coates - its absolutely essential to conduct - a pretty forensic, game by game review, along with our manager with, a very hard line in questioning- which too - is absolutely necessary Love how you structure your posts like hip-hop, mate. Always have, always will. Natural rhythm. Keep up the good work
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Post by manmarking on Apr 9, 2017 6:22:44 GMT
He is a 50 (ish) year old man that spent his formative years (I.e. teenager and early 20s) in the 80/90s knocking about with various people in Penkhull /Hartshill / Cliffe Vale with various decent lads (including myself) . To see all this silly pretending to be various people on a message board shit is embarrassing enough but when it is some one you know who is old enough to know better it is really cringeworthy . FFS man, just grow up! Sad man ! if he still has any bollocks why not post as himself ? pity he is allowed to act out his sad fantasy life on this board, one day Thailand the next Hartshill Maybe because he isn't posting on here at the moment but your addled little NF brain is too small and dense to realise How many race-related crimes have you got on your record, fella?
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Post by manmarking on Apr 8, 2017 7:04:36 GMT
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Post by manmarking on Apr 7, 2017 20:32:56 GMT
Putin and Trump are both masters of disinformation. Who's to say that this attack isn't just part of an ongoing narrative that's being created for general consumption? Certainly deflects from all the accusations of Trump being backed by Putin. People need to understand that to Putin/Trump, Syria is a really very minor, insignificant pawn. The war there and its direct effects on ordinary people are literally irrelevant to them. It's a laboratory.
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Post by manmarking on Apr 7, 2017 19:42:55 GMT
I do. They (Liberal Left) shouldn't have voted against military action in Syria back in 2013. They've successfully prolonged the civil war for 3 years, increased the influence of Russia, Iran, Turkey and Saudi Arabia in the region. Accelerated mass immigration and now we're back to square one. Shall we, shan't we bomb Assad? Anyway. Enough of discussing events you don't understand. You just focus on a road traffic acident in Sweden until you're given the official narrative. Two of the most baffling posts I've ever read on here. One of them is blaming the most liberal, tolerant, peace loving country in the Western world for the problem of Islamic terrorism, and the other is suggesting that if we'd helped ISIS overthrow Assad from the start everything would be hunky-dory. ... I'm really hoping I've got a massive "Wooosh" coming. I was being ironic mate but then the dear old Oatcake isn't the place for that To clarify my position: anyone who thinks that western military action in the middle east has nothing to do with Islamist extremism is mentally deficient. And anyone who claims that there isn't a fundamental issue with radicalism in the Muslim community is equally mentally deficient. That's what I've said on here since Day One. As with so many things, the answer isn't a clear black and white one. That's where we're failing. For whatever reason, we seem unable to accept - both as a society and on here - that the problem is a complex, multi-faceted one. It won't get solved by a) doing nothing, b) bombing fuck out of everything or c) curtailing the civil liberties of all Muslims.
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Post by manmarking on Apr 7, 2017 15:42:35 GMT
I think everyone needs to calm down. Have you not read the rule book? It's not an official terror attack until ISIS lets us know tomorrow. That's if they work Saturday's. After that, it's a sliding scale of blame depending on country of birth, mental state and actual visits to the Middle East v internet radicalisation. Then we're into, how the West has failed this poor individual, criticism of decades old Foreign policy then the self-flagellation because of the rise in the number of normal people in the street asking for a more proactive response to Islamic Extremism. Finally, Scholfield tweets a 'defiant' selfie of himself eating IKEA meatballs while Juncker has already tweeted he "stands in solidarity" and Merkel has tweeted she "stands with" the people of Sweden. Phew, thank fuck for that. Anyway, lets all get back to criticising Trump's missiles and leave this traffic accident to the reasonable Liberals. So you don't think foreign policy has anything to do with this? What's the point in foreign policy if it has no impact on anything, Todge?
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Post by manmarking on Apr 7, 2017 12:49:04 GMT
I'm agnostic but I've heard a professor of clinical psychology explain religion, and specifically Christianity, in a way that really resonated with me. The stories in the bible are not supposed to be taken as literal truths, religous truth is not scientific truth. Scientific truth tells you what things are but genuine relgious truth tells you how you should act. Religious writings in the deepest sense relate to a mode of being which has meaning, they're meta-true. If you take the most true things about your own life and then take the most true things about 10 other peoples lives and then you amalgamate them into a single figure, a literary hero. Then you take a 1,000 literary heroes and extract from them what makes the most heroic person, that is a religious deity. It's the collective imagination attempting to build an exemplary drama that everyone can act out, behavioural truths which appear everywhere, stories which can be passed down through the generations. Stories and myths, like comic book heroes are very prominent and popular in our culture for a reason, examples of good and bad, of chaos and order like Batman and the Joker, the Harry Potter stories etc. An excellent post mate, as others have said, and certainly makes a lot of sense The problem with religion is that a literal interpretation can breed fundamentalism, while a more modern "mode of being"/interpretative mindset can breed people like Tony Blair or George W. Bush who'll simply do whatever they please yet still claim some sort of divine right. Ban the lot of it, I say
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Post by manmarking on Apr 7, 2017 12:39:39 GMT
I didn't name-call mate. I called you a racist because you said something racist. I just stated a fact. Of course you name-called but then you're allowed to. Goes without saying, doesn't it Also, nice strawman but I'm not the one who brought skin colour into it; you did. You clearly differentiated between Jewish people and "non-white" ones when, as you now admit, there may be no difference in many cases. At least you admit you were wrong Smiley faces don't make your juvenile arguments smarter or funny. Do you understand that anti-semitism just like islamophobia is prejudice \ racism based solely on a person's religion? Anti semitism seems to be the only type of racism that people who are not from the group being abused feel confident to tell those being abused what they should find offensive \ racist, I don't see it with other types of racism towards non-white people like islamophobia or racism towards black people. So you're not right surprise, surprise and you clearly have no idea (generally and specifically) of what racism actually is. Being lectured on racism by someone who doesn't understand racism yet is lecturing people that they're not allowed to lecture people on racism. Lol. Well it would be, if it wasn't so absurd.
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Post by manmarking on Apr 7, 2017 11:31:12 GMT
Is that carps in the middle of the mosh?
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