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Post by Pugsley on Apr 18, 2024 13:55:39 GMT
Sorry yeah the current owners are great and not the issue at all and they’ve done great. 8 years of utter shite under them and nothing changing. Wake up. So you accept your earlier post was exaggerated knicker wetting bollocks. Good. Maybe try sticking to facts rather than making stuff up. I would have thought the Coates family are just as concerned at our recent history as we are. Maybe even more so considering it’s their money that is being pissed away. Out of interest what do you think the alternative to the Coates ownership is? I think it's fair game to question the competence of the current 'man in charge' i.e. John Coates. During his tenure it's been nothing short of a disaster with one calamitous decision after another. Lambert, Rowett after chasing him 3 times, Jones based on a conversation with a bloke in the pub, O'Neill who had zero club experience (to date his best appointment - low bar) and Alex Neil who again he courted a number of times. StS is a high risk appointment. And that's just the managers!!! We're on the precipice of the third tier again under the Coates ownership. It's really not good enough and reflects terribly on them. John Coates need to step back from football matters, he's clearly to involved, and trust the people he's put in place to do their jobs.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 18, 2024 9:19:10 GMT
I think Schumacher has the potential to be a decent manager but it was a mistake to appoint him in the situation we were in because he hasn't got the experience to deal with it. At Plymouth he inherited a stable club on the up and ran with it - the situation here was the polar opposite. It was always a Mad Nath style wishful thinking appointment and very likely to go wrong. The fact he isn't doing any worse is an achievement and better than what Jones managed. The atmosphere behind the scenes looks to have improved but he really hasn't made much of an impact on the pitch - we are still woefully inconsistent, capable of conceding stupid goals and incapable of creating and taking many scoring chances. The football is a better watch at times but the results haven't improved much. I think it's 50/50 whether we stay up and if we do stay up he deserves a chance next season to show what he can do. If we go down I'm not convinced he's the right man for the job. I don't blame Schumacher for struggling - we were and are in a bad place and most managers would have struggled. I don't get the high handed expectation of some supporters that we were just there to be turned around and he's failed to do something dead easy so therefore he must be crap. He's not crap - the team he inherited just isn't very good and he doesn't have the experience to work out how to get the best from what he's got. Which is what you get if you go for a manager with very little experience and no experience of dealing with a team in a relegation battle. It was a very risky appointment. Good post. I'll caveat it by adding that any manager is a risk. We've had wet behind the ears to experienced. All failed/struggled, so suggests it's very hard job for any manager. Who was available at the time to replace the lamentable Alex Neil (who was experienced btw)
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 18, 2024 8:53:09 GMT
So to be clear, not every time? Understood. I never said every time. That’s just bollocks.
It happens at every other club bar ours.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 18, 2024 8:41:26 GMT
He'd make a good manager but can't be arsed. True story. I’d have won more than 2 home games so far. True story. If only you could have been arsed.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 18, 2024 8:39:53 GMT
What happens at every other club bar Stoke? Managers make an instant change. It doesn’t happen every time but it happens a lot. We’ve tried it how many times now and have the same bollocks excuses. So to be clear, not every time? Understood.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 16, 2024 13:52:13 GMT
Bayern for stoke manager trending on xnxx He'd make a good manager but can't be arsed. True story.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 16, 2024 13:31:02 GMT
We’d be a laughing stock sacking a manager with 2 games to go, as you say it would be absolutely pointless and replacing Schumacher with Gallagher who is part of the problem along with Shawcross who has only coached at youth level and a raw new DOF with no coaching experience would be utter madness on any Richter scale and would probably be beyond anything even our dysfunctional board would consider, hopefully! Wasn't SS appointed to avoid relegation? We were 20th in the table when he was appointed in December last year. I would suggest that we would be a bigger laughing stock if we keep him if we go down. You're on about sacking him after Plymouth. If we go down then a question as to whether he can bring us back up has to be answered.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 16, 2024 13:29:40 GMT
Any other club would be giving him his marching orders at the end of the season. Everyone rambles on about his time at Plymouth, a team he inherited and didn't need to do much with. He comes to a struggling club and shows every bit of naivety you would expect, only issue is he isn't learning, he keeps making the same cock ups game after game. He simply isn't a very good manager to suggest anything else is remarkable. Here’s a couple of old comments from you. Actually not that old. From December. “I’m willing to sacrifice my first born for him.” And “Thats Play Off Final level of training! All hail Sir Schumacher.” Be honest. You haven’t a fucking clue what you’re talking about. Someone has just been owned.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 16, 2024 9:24:01 GMT
You’re obsessed with giving another Preston no mark the managers job. Gallagher. Wtaf??? I'm not obsessed with him at all. Firstly SS needs to go if we lose ... no question. Secondly, the only candidates at the Club would be Gally or Ryan with SJW as assistant. Thirdly, he showed some good signs during his brief stint as caretaker. Cohesive unit is the term I think. And finally he probably knows the players better than anybody. Of course let's hope that it doesn't come to that and SS can secure a victory and more or less our safety. Absolute pointless exercise sacking a manager with 2 games to go and replacing him with someone who has been clearly part of the problem. It's bizarre thinking. What did he show in 2 games that indicates he would be the answer to our problems? Nothing. Gallagher should have been shown the door when his other Preston cronies were.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 15, 2024 20:22:37 GMT
Not sure he's divided the fan base that badly. Not judging from the Schumacher barmy armies I keep hearing sung very loudly and for prolonged periods of time. We have to give the man a chance. There's something about him if you ask me and it would appear a sizeable number of our fans agree. I certainly don't recall AN getting that treatment and he stumbled on for 16 months and was given 20 plus players. Patience required... Patience? 😬 Crikey mate, I think we've been very patient over the last few years. A lot of talk about him being a nice guy and good fit etc.. Personally I couldn't give a toss if was an arsehole of the highest order as long as he was winning. We need a WINNER. Lose on Saturday and we should give the job to Gally/Ryan/SJW for the last two games. You’re obsessed with giving another Preston no mark the managers job. Gallagher. Wtaf???
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 15, 2024 13:56:59 GMT
Stoke City v Plymouth Argyle 3pm 20th April 2024. Losers will be relegated.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 15, 2024 13:22:08 GMT
How do you know he just came for the money? You don’t. The only person who knows that is him. Personally I think ambition and a desire to develop his personal career would have been factors in addition to the money. More like arrogance and naivety A rookie coach who thought he could come here and do a job. A job that has chewed and spat out people with more experience than him If it wasn’t for money, then she should have stayed where he was and gained his experience with no pressure. One thing is for sure and reading the comments on here and listening to fans in the stands, he has certainly divided the fan base. Definitely something the club doesn’t want. But you want a rookie inexperienced DoF to choose his replacement.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 14, 2024 16:40:52 GMT
Maybe. I think there is something there that might make him a successful gaffer. He basically wiped the floor with the 1st Division last season, including Ipswich who look like they might be promoted. You can't underestimate what a complete shit show he walked in to. Alex fucking Neil ffs. On a par with Rowett. Rowett actually had a better record than AN but AN didn't spend £50m+ whilst not using Bojan, Diouf or Crouch I can't stand the pair of them. Never ever Stoke managers.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 14, 2024 16:35:36 GMT
You did. It's ordinary behaviour. He wouldn't be in football management if he was a coward. Managers put themselves out there every single day and are judged by people who haven't the first clue. They have opinions which is fine but the name calling? I wouldn’t say he’s a coward, he’s just shit. Maybe. I think there is something there that might make him a successful gaffer. He basically wiped the floor with the 1st Division last season, including Ipswich who look like they might be promoted. You can't underestimate what a complete shit show he walked in to. Alex fucking Neil ffs. On a par with Rowett.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 14, 2024 16:20:16 GMT
I mean like, who cares what they do? Of all the things to be wound up by.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 14, 2024 16:16:18 GMT
You did. It's ordinary behaviour. He wouldn't be in football management if he was a coward. Managers put themselves out there every single day and are judged by people who haven't the first clue. They have opinions which is fine but the name calling? So pretty much what you did every week with Pulis? 🤣 Correct, but I've matured
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 14, 2024 16:05:51 GMT
To be fair I think it’s just been Bayern using the “coward” invective. I think I saw at least one other comment. You did. It's ordinary behaviour. He wouldn't be in football management if he was a coward. Managers put themselves out there every single day and are judged by people who haven't the first clue. They have opinions which is fine but the name calling?
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 14, 2024 16:03:08 GMT
Disrespectful to our supporters. This 'sewing circle' doesn't represent the majority of opinion We need to expect better, especially against teams around the bottom. It might take another relegation for people to wake up. We have become a relegation fighting team in the Championship. Is that acceptable? Nobody is happy clapping or not expecting better. Every man and his dog know there are issues that need sorting.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 13, 2024 22:12:23 GMT
I might be wrong but the “coward callers” seem to be a relatively new phenomenon? There’s also plenty of: “Out of his depth” deep sea diver merchants making a return after the last couple of games too. They are bold, know their depths and they’ll be getting a group together… It won’t be long before the “New Amigos” are donning snorkelling gear and Kenny Rogers masks…. As they sit behind the dug out to serenade SS in Spanish… I take it you didn't see the message board after the 0-5 defeat at home to Leicester then? Many have rightly been highlighting he's out his depth for pretty much the entirety of his time at Stoke. Results, signings, team selections, tactics and performances prove that. I don't know how it can be denied. Doesn't make him a coward.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 13, 2024 22:11:07 GMT
Yes, brilliant. Everything in his favour to make a success of the job. How did he do at Sheff Utd? How long does he stay in jobs? I'm not backing anyone and I'm all for change if it makes us better. Nobody has yet to come up with a viable alternative. So he's had some shitters. Big deal? What good experienced championship managers haven't had a few bad jobs along the way? At least you're giving the situation a chance by appointing someone who has succeeded at this level as opposed to handing out to someone who has both not proven himself capable at this level while progressively on a week by week basis proving his incompetence. The old "there's no one better out there" rubbish makes no sense. Why do you think the likes of West Brom and Norwich are so much better than us? They've both got managers we could have had if we wanted. So you think we just could have gone out and got those managers if we wanted? Didn't we approach Jokanovic a few years ago and he turned us down? Obviously there are good managers out there, Are they viable for Stoke City and the clueless John Coates?
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 13, 2024 21:56:52 GMT
I like him but I'm not sure tbh. I think he's a decent manager but at stoke we need someone high calibre who will inspire some real commitment from everyone around the playing squad. Someone who will help players improve. For all his faults Pulis did that. We need someone who will command respect and get players to buy in to a clear plan. We have no idea if schumacher could be this kind of person. If we are to keep him for next season, a lot of hard work needs to be done to get rid of 10-12 of the current squad and back him to get the type of player he wants Which is exactly what Pulis did. Struggled, chopped and changed, scraped staying up. Then shaped his squad when given the chance.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 13, 2024 21:52:18 GMT
Is that the best you can come up with? A bloke who failed miserably in his last job in this league three years ago and hasn't worked for a year. A bloke who got Watford promoted and got Fulham promoted playing arguably the best football the league has ever seen. You make it sound like he did this 20 years ago. But you think it's more sensible to back a guy who has zero Championship experience, barely any management experience and has somehow made an already shit Stoke side, even shitter? Yes, brilliant. Everything in his favour to make a success of the job. How did he do at Sheff Utd? How long does he stay in jobs? I'm not backing anyone and I'm all for change if it makes us better. Nobody has yet to come up with a viable alternative.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 13, 2024 21:43:28 GMT
A proven Championship manager that isn't British? Who? Someone who has a track record of championship success. Jokanovic? Is that the best you can come up with? A bloke who failed miserably in his last job in this league three years ago and hasn't worked for a year.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 13, 2024 21:37:00 GMT
Win and we’ll be safe. No messing around let’s just play our best side. With a weeks rest he can’t come up with this excuse around fitness. Iverson Stevens Mcnally Rose Hoever Thompson Burger Laurent (one day he might have a good game) Manhoef Campbell Bae Best side? We haven't got one. People are losing their minds.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 13, 2024 21:33:10 GMT
He's painfully out of his depth and I'm not sure what else he needs to do to confirm he isn't the one to take a forward. We'll probably scrape it but why the fuck should he keep his job come May 4th? It's been absolutely turgid stuff under Schumacher. He's got no idea what his best team is, two appalling signings that were never going to improve us and tactics/substitutes that make Nathan Jones look sane. It's now got that bad that we've got some celebrating a point (despite being played off the park) at a side 23rd in the championship. We should stay up but he's so obviously not the answer. Get through this horrible season, get him out and invest heavily in a proven Championship manager. Dare I say it, one that isn't British for a change. A proven Championship manager that isn't British? Who?
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 13, 2024 21:14:05 GMT
More of the 'coward' stuff. Pathetic shite, honestly. I'm all for criticism where it's due and a lot of it is, but coward? Get to fuck.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 12, 2024 10:02:10 GMT
ppl say this every year , the managers needs his own players , it’s bollocks , come december he will be sacked and we start the whole process again Yes, it's a big part of the problem. Manager's are given far too much leeway when they inherit another manager's squad. Look at Danny Rohl at Sheffield Wednesday. His first proper managers job, even less experienced than Schumacher, never managed in this country before yet he's turned a squad of failing League One players around at a club run by a mentalist. They will be relegated. I do agree Managers are given too much leeway. You have to agree though that the players we signed over the summer by Neil and his chronies have been awful, bar 2.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 11, 2024 9:31:38 GMT
The owners.
A series of bad decisions nigh on a decade.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 11, 2024 8:09:16 GMT
The reason he can't pick his best side is because we don't have one,too many players who are just not up to the job,if he picked our best 11 players to start,8 or 9 of them would be playing out of position. That’s what January was for A decade of bad recruitment, a summer of complete overhaul yet you want StS to completely transform the team and squad in one window after being here for 10 minutes. OK.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 10, 2024 21:30:08 GMT
Inevitable knicker wetting from people who haven't the first clue. We'll stay up and kick on next season. StS is here for the long run, pipe down and get used to it. I hope he’s sacked immediately after Bristol City. If he’s here for the long run we’re in for a long stint in lower leagues. So if it’s ok I’ll continue to agitate and worry that we look like relegation fodder. Cundle & Ennis deary me Hope away. It isn't happening.
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