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Post by twitters on Feb 18, 2008 17:31:23 GMT
Firstly, don't shoot! I'm not here in a bad way! I'm risking getting shot down here so be nice!
Someone on OVF has come up with the idea of an informal link up between Vale and Stoke whereby Vale get first option on any loan players if it is beneficial for Stoke. Players who are just coming back from injury, fringe players and young players, that kind of thing.
However, someone reckons that you lot would never accept that and would give players stick that came to us on loan.
So the question I'm asking is, would you accept players going to us on loan and would you give them stick for having been with us for when they get back?
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Post by myleftboot on Feb 18, 2008 17:34:50 GMT
In all honesty I would hate to see Fail go down. Still a local club and at the end of the day it could spell the end for you guys.
Sadly I think the idea wouldnt work. The gap if you do go down would be rather wide but some of the younger lads could benefit.
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Post by miltonstokie on Feb 18, 2008 17:35:32 GMT
bang ! You can have Pericard for nowt with compliments
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Post by mickmills on Feb 18, 2008 17:36:21 GMT
I wouldn't care about loaning players to the Vale. The main problem would be though where you are in the league and not wanting to shatter the confidence of the lads - which judging by your results recently is why you haven't blooded your lads - they can't be much worse than your first team.
Pericard would get stick wherever he came back from though as he's crap
Oh - and you'd have to pay their wages - no freebies sorry mate
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Post by stokecityscott on Feb 18, 2008 17:38:40 GMT
this happened last season Twitters, when foyle said on the radio
" we asked stoke for loan players and coates turned it down straight away saying he wont do business with us"
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Post by jezzascfc on Feb 18, 2008 17:39:10 GMT
Don't see a problem with it myself - if the likes of Adam Rooney, Ryan Shotton, Robbie Garrett etc could get first team league football experience close to home where it easy for us to keep check on them, all well and good.
I joke about Port "Fail" with the rest, but it would be a sad day if ever you lost your league status or, even worse, went to the wall. If we can do our bit now we are in such a strong position, whilst also benefitting our young lads, why not?
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Post by mcscooby on Feb 18, 2008 17:40:39 GMT
Pericant, Broomes, Porkin, Buxton.......
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Post by myleftboot on Feb 18, 2008 17:43:32 GMT
Wheres Graham Potter is he still playing
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Post by scfclifer on Feb 18, 2008 17:43:33 GMT
Pericant, Broomes, Porkin, Buxton....... you can have these four on free transfers if ya want ;D
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 18, 2008 17:44:46 GMT
I think it would be great experience for some of our 10 and 11 year olds ;D
joking apart vale have already filled up their quota of loan players and as they look pretty much doomed would have thought they be sending them back and looking to play their own youngsters.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2008 17:46:36 GMT
More chance of us lot turning up to watch 'em.
No way we'd send our kids into that blood-bath No way Bambi or Bucko (and so on) would go (would you!?)
Nice idea ... the city will feel even smaller, when it only has one football club ... and that looks to be the way it's going ... but it'll never happen.
ah
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Post by luke45 on Feb 18, 2008 17:47:53 GMT
I would like to see vale go down, not being spiteful but i'm sure they would wish it on us, if we were in there situation.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2008 17:52:29 GMT
It would be the most logical route to a solution for both clubs. Stoke could keep closer tabs on the players no great amount of traveling. I think that there would be a benefit from it its just whether the Fail fans would accept Potters playing for your team especially if they have bad games. How much would have you lot benefited from Adam Rooney playing for you?
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Post by nonameface on Feb 18, 2008 17:55:00 GMT
It would be nice if our reserve/fringe players did play for you and I don't understand why it doesn't/shouldn't happen. It would help us to get players fitter and better, they would be close to home so we could observe them easily, our fans could go and watch them at the vale when stoke aren't playing or are down Plymouth - helping vale to raise a bit more cash from the turnstiles. Seems a win win as far as I'm concerned. Vale will never ever be able to compete with Stoke again unless they have a MASSIVE cash injection, so I don't see the harm.
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Post by The_real_Peter_Griffin on Feb 18, 2008 17:58:23 GMT
If the shoe was on the other foot this place would be awash with vale saying how good they were, how shit we are and how were going down and they are the best team in the area etc etc etc
So
BYE VALE , down you go, i personally hope you dont come back.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2008 18:11:34 GMT
I can't disagree TRPG though I still think loaning players would be a good move for both clubs.
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Post by smokeyjoe on Feb 18, 2008 18:38:38 GMT
I can't see what difference it makes. The fringe players need match practice at a higher level than reserves. If that means going on loan to the fail, then so be it
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Post by 5ManBack4 on Feb 18, 2008 18:38:46 GMT
Can't see it ever happening at least while TP is the gaffer,it would only take one bad game and the crowd would be soon on the players back and would affect his confidence and would soon be sent packing back to us.I went to the vale satdee(freebie ;D) and you need more than stoke players to help you even the intervention of Christ would only delay things.
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Post by soicowboy on Feb 18, 2008 18:42:09 GMT
Don't see why not- am sure though sections wouldn't accept them so can see our club's thinking
Works both ways although completely childish when you think about it. Adam Rooney would have been ideal for v-ale
Even admin here have this Fail Crwho thing when you try to post- pretty sad
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Post by BiddulphStokie on Feb 18, 2008 20:32:11 GMT
is it fuck would vale help us if it was the other way round would they bollox they would look down the league at us and laugh so thats what i am going to do. Hahaha
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Post by Davef on Feb 18, 2008 20:40:26 GMT
Were these Vale fans so keen on an informal link up when they were laughing their bollocks off at us ten years ago as we went down and they stayed up at Huddersfield?
Were they bollocks.
If they want to loan any of our players all they need to do is ask, and be prepared to pay for them. End of.
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Post by daverichards on Feb 18, 2008 21:07:45 GMT
why not just give up and call yourselves Stoke Reserves ;D
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Post by mickmills on Feb 19, 2008 13:00:25 GMT
Wheres Graham Potter is he still playing Graham Potter retired at the age of 30 from Macc Town. He was offered a new contract for a couple of years or so, but said something like he'd fallen out of love with the game. To be fair though, once you've left Stoke....
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 19, 2008 13:32:00 GMT
Didn’t Coates comments stem from the fact the fact that Vale had been less than straightforward when we’d enquired about their players in the past or a premium was put on them because it was Stoke? At least you can’t accuse us of not being straightforward, the answer is, ‘go fuck yourselves’.
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Post by hanibal7 on Feb 19, 2008 13:58:06 GMT
no way should we help fail. be like any other club and ask for loans,then its up to the manager and chairman to decide if its in the players interest,sure the answer would be no because fail are wank. will always be wank.would be better to send them to usa and play for aztecs.
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Post by serpico on Feb 19, 2008 14:10:42 GMT
It's risky because if we sent a player out on loan to Vale and the player didn't hit the ground running he'd get slated and that could affect confidence, especially if it's a youngster, it could destroy them, that said it's worth looking into, geographically it would be handy.
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Post by superdude on Feb 20, 2008 0:02:06 GMT
Firstly, don't shoot! I'm not here in a bad way! I'm risking getting shot down here so be nice! Someone on OVF has come up with the idea of an informal link up between Fail and Stoke whereby Fail get first option on any loan players if it is beneficial for Stoke. Twitters i thought you were a supporter of Vale· if so how come you always put fail? ???
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Post by powchirper on Feb 20, 2008 0:37:51 GMT
Twitters, i read your post on OVF today about whether the fans should cheer or boo the players on the last day of the season and most said euther boo them or do nothing, have you ever thought that if you had cheered them on from the begining you might not be in the mess you now find your selves, at Stoke when the oppo score there is shocked silence for a couple of seconds then an almighty roar to hopefully give the lads a bit of a boost, dont get me wrong we have our fair share of boo boys too but nothing compared to you lot, so the answer to your question is a big fat NO. If you relentlessly boo your own players how would you treat your main rivals players.
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Post by mark71 on Feb 20, 2008 1:06:56 GMT
Who was vale's player of the year last season? Who was driven away from the club by the Boo boys? If that's the kind of treatment the so called star player gets what chance has anyone else got? As I've said before, they've made their bed let them lye in it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2008 6:22:56 GMT
Twitters, i read your post on OVF today about whether the fans should cheer or boo the players on the last day of the season and most said euther boo them or do nothing, have you ever thought that if you had cheered them on from the begining you might not be in the mess you now find your selves, at Stoke when the oppo score there is shocked silence for a couple of seconds then an almighty roar to hopefully give the lads a bit of a boost, dont get me wrong we have our fair share of boo boys too but nothing compared to you lot, so the answer to your question is a big fat NO. If you relentlessly boo your own players how would you treat your main rivals players. powchirper they don't actually boo its the only sound that the inbreds can formulate that's close to speech
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