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Post by headsgoup on Feb 18, 2008 15:16:39 GMT
It's bullshit RAF. It's the only pathetic thing he can come up with.
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Post by powchirper on Feb 19, 2008 1:03:24 GMT
found the key board warrior twitters on his home patch, 18000 plus posts, this ones about watching a man having a piss and then watching a dog have a shit, Twitters you want sectioning under the mental health act www.onevalefan.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=29570
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Feb 19, 2008 1:46:14 GMT
Yes, he's mad - totally insane I tell you, 18,805 posts at an average of 21.77 posts a day. That's five times more posts from just one lunatic than their average home attendance. ??? ??? ???
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Post by r10ryx on Feb 19, 2008 5:49:38 GMT
No vale???? i don't no if that would be a good thing or not...... each city needs a arch rival
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Post by Northy on Feb 19, 2008 7:36:03 GMT
HGU, You must have a shallow life to lie awake and think of the Vale, set your sights higher like Bournemouth or Luton who've had 10 points deducted Chill out and think of other things, we know in part of the 90's they were like annoying flies buzzing round but like with a drought they have gone away. I'm one of the ones who use to go down to Vale Park when I was a youth in the 70's and Stoke were away, I don't have hate in my heart for anything like Port Vale, only for somebody like the guy who wanted to behead a British muslim soldier. I would still like Stoke on trent to have 1 football team, by merging not through anything else, but that won't happen becuase of we have to be in the same league and there is too many people who won't let it happen because of narrow minded thoughts.
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Post by Admin on Feb 19, 2008 7:44:12 GMT
Northwich,
I'd hardly call it narrow-minded not to want to merge with a club that has nothing at all to do with us and by who association we would lose just about all of the identity and heritage we have established over 145 years of proud history.
On the broader subject of this thread, I'd dearly love the Vale to go down (and I have a great story for the fanzine when they do... I have a long memory and it's fast approaching pay-back time!) but there's no reason to want any club to go out of business.
The natural order in our city has been re-established and long may it continue!
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Post by mcf on Feb 19, 2008 7:47:23 GMT
Conference football in the Wembley of the North would do for starters.
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Post by Northy on Feb 19, 2008 7:54:21 GMT
Smudge I am not one for the past, people are still fighting wars from an argument 2,000 years ago, people should rise above things that happened in the past and look to the future, that's what can be changed. I didn't say that everybody had narrow minds, there is quite a few though, like the original post, saying "hate" about something like Port Vale We haven't exactly had a glorious history have we, the league cup in 72 and a couple of auto cups? We've moved out of the "historic stadium" Clubs have merged and done weel for themselves, albeit at a lower level so far. do you think either Dagenham or Redbridge would have made the FL on their own, or Gravesend or Northfleet establish themselves on their own? Our support isn't big enough to stay and compete in the premier league on it's own, we would have to rely on PC's cash to achieve a top half finish or a UEFA cup place, and whenthat runs out???
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Post by mcf on Feb 19, 2008 7:57:54 GMT
'Clubs merging and doing well for themselves.'
Bully for them. That isn't what football is about for fucksake.
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Post by Northy on Feb 19, 2008 8:11:36 GMT
mcf, times have changed since they played football with laced leather balls and wore heavy boots and evrybody smoked a pipe and hated Jonny Foreigner It's all about finance now and surving, look at Luton, Bournemouth, Leeds, Rotherham I bet they all wish they had Coates's money behind them?? Where would we have been if the Icelandics hadn't bailed us out, or now without PC's cash?? We'd probably be in the same league as Vale, we need extra support on a regular basis to consolidate as a top club
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Post by mcf on Feb 19, 2008 8:18:35 GMT
I'd rather be in the 4th division watching Stoke then be part of any merger and do well in the Prem.
The Coates cash is great but it isn't everything.
If we didn't have a sugar daddy then we would have to be content with being the best we can be under whatever constraints we operated under.
The day we merged with anybody (and not just the Vale) would probably be the day I'd pack in.
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Post by twitters on Feb 19, 2008 8:24:43 GMT
NorthwichStokie, while I can see where you're coming from I don't think that either team would accept a merger and to be honest I can't see how it would actually benefit either team. Stoke do have more than just the cup wins to go from though, there's a proud history of being in the old Division 1 and having players such as Sir Stan and Gordon Banks wear the red and white of Stoke. Even names that aren't as well known nationwide such as John Ritchie still add to the proud history of Stoke.
The order of things changed in the 90's when for the first time we were playing consistently at the same level of Stoke. Before that there used to be a healthy and friendly rivalry between the two sides whereby Stoke fans used to come and watch Vale and vice versa. That will never happen again because for many fans, the 90's has caused a hatrid to develop between the two sides that will never be how it was. Shown by the fact Vale fans still have "We hate Stoke" as one of our favourite chants.
Vale too have a proud history. It may not be on the same scale as Stoke but we have our own unique identity and history and are proud of it. The first team from the third tier of football to make the semi-finals of the FA Cup, reaching Wembley for the first time under John Rudge, the likes of Roy Sproson and Tommy Cheadle. It may not be on the Stoke scale but it's still what makes us the team we are.
No fan would ever accept a merger and I don't personally believe it should happen. I'm proud to be a Port Vale fan and I'd rather be in League Two than non-existant or with another side. I'll always support my local side, and the more people from Stoke-on-Trent that ditch their United and Liverpool tops and start supporting their local side, whether that is Vale, Stoke, Norton United, Newcastle Town or whoever, the better this city will be.
(cue a load of abuse from chavs!)
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Post by mcf on Feb 19, 2008 8:54:46 GMT
No self respecting Fail fan would call his team Fail.
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Post by beagriestache on Feb 19, 2008 8:57:46 GMT
I agree with Northwich Stokie, I'd like to see one club in Stoke-on-Trent (through agreement).
Football is changing greatly, two clubs in a small place like Stoke means both suffer to differing degrees. It's hypothetical I realise but I'd guess that a Stoke-on-Trent FC would have won more than one league cup down the years.
We're all Stoke people after all. Once the initial resistance to the idea had gone away, we'd have a club we could all get behind which would probably average 20k a game and give the city a much better chance of having a team consistently in the top division.
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Post by Northy on Feb 19, 2008 9:12:23 GMT
Twitters, a quite level headed response from a fail afn ;D We all find our own level of football to watch, times change and we move on. I enjoy watching amatuer football, sitting in the clubhouse with a pint, home made chip butties. I don't watch Witton or Northwich much, now if they merged what a non league force they would be
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Post by harveys3 on Feb 19, 2008 15:57:17 GMT
No self respecting Fail fan would call his team Fail. We dont have much choice, it automatically changes it.
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Post by harveys3 on Feb 19, 2008 16:04:17 GMT
& it's nice too see that Stoke fans don't want us to go down, you need a good rival next too you and you won't get that from Crewe will you. But i can't wait for when you don't get into the premiership i will raise a little smile, we can go down and you can saty where you are.
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Post by powchirper on Feb 19, 2008 16:27:59 GMT
Harvey, you lot seem more interested in us getting promoted than you do for the demise of your own shitty little two bit excuse of a club, why? for years now you lot have been like an irritating itch in the middle of your back which you cant quite reach to scratch, but now with you defo going down to the 4th division i feel like my arms have grown and i can finally reach the offending itch.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 19, 2008 17:18:47 GMT
So what you're saying Harveys... Is that you'd rather go down and see us fail to go up than stay up and see us promoted?
Typical Valeite! Your hatred for Stoke is more than your love for your own club! ;D
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Post by tampon on Feb 19, 2008 17:58:50 GMT
(cue a load of abuse from chavs!) you fat mess!
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Post by mcf on Feb 19, 2008 18:09:23 GMT
No flies on you eh Harvey!
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Post by headsgoup on Feb 20, 2008 9:57:35 GMT
The twitters said...... Fail too have a proud history. It may not be on the same scale as Stoke...... ----------- Damn right you haven't, and you never will. Don't EVER forget that.
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Post by twitters on Feb 20, 2008 10:00:04 GMT
The twitters said...... Fail too have a proud history. It may not be on the same scale as Stoke...... ----------- Damn right you haven't, and you never will. Don't EVER forget that. So why are you so bothered about us then? No matter how much you scratch that itch, it always seems to bother you! Surely in West Brom and Wolves you have bigger itches to scratch, so why keep coming back to our itch? Does it bother you that much?
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Post by Stick It On Cort's Head on Feb 20, 2008 10:03:46 GMT
Their forum name says it all.
ONE vale fan.
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Post by headsgoup on Feb 20, 2008 10:13:49 GMT
Northwichstokie
HGU, You must have a shallow life to lie awake and think of the Vale..... -----
I won't argue with a fellow Stokie but I don't lose any sleep about them!
Everybody has something that they really dislike in their life, whether it be your boss, your nieghbours, Bovril, traffic jams.....
Myself, I happen to really dislike the Vale.
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Post by soicowboy on Feb 20, 2008 10:17:25 GMT
'Fail fan looking in, lets see if you have the guts to come and post this on OVF'
No offence but why would it take guts ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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Post by goodjobson on Feb 20, 2008 10:39:09 GMT
Blimey Heads up,
What has made you feel this way?
Personally I am of the opposite opinion. In my teen years I did dislike the Vale probably because I was at a school full of Vale fans and was one of very few Stoke fans there. The school was in the north of the city and this all took place during Vale's rise from a nothing club under John Rudge. To be fair they had some fantastic players and teams in the 80's and deserved to be in higher divisions.
I also enjoyed some fantastic banter during the 90's with some good Port Vale following mates. Always (well, nearly) friendly and in good spirit. I specifically remember the Macari years when both clubs were very competitive in the third tier of football. Good years.
I am a Stoke fan through and through, and like many who support a team I know that is my club and always will be. But I just cannot say I dislike the Vale. After all, many of us have family members of good friends who are Vale fans and I wouldn't wish them any harm because of that.
I have to say, in all honesty, I do look for their results on a regular basis and the Stoke fan in me is kind of wanting them to go down! But to be honest I wouldn't want to see them go bust and would like to see us in competition again some day, preferably in a higher league than last time.
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