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Post by sportsman on Feb 16, 2008 20:29:52 GMT
Ok he didn't say Stoke fans, but i know what he means. English fans, especially Stoke, will never allow 'their' team to play football, unless winning 5-0.
Just lately we have been playing a lot more football than before (now we have the players like Pulis always said), but again last night whenever Stoke tried to play football, keeping possession and passing along the midfield, there were shouts of 'get it forward stoke FFS!', and Whelan dared to lay it back to Shawcross after 4-5 passes in midfield because that was the only ball he could play with a Scunthorpe player up his backside, what did we get 'booo come on stoke forward'.
When will the thick as fuck stoke fans get it in their thick heads that sometimes, to keep possession, you sometimes have to pass backwards to go forwards. All the top prem clubs do it and their fans always allow their players to do it.
Cappello was right. English fans allow 3-4 passes then shout 'forward'. Come on Stoke fans, you wanted to see more football, then when we try to play it you shout 'lump it up'
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Post by potters11 on Feb 16, 2008 20:31:26 GMT
There is a difference between playing football at 0-0 or 1-0 up, to losing 2-0 at home to Scunthorpe in a must win match!
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Post by n01stokie on Feb 16, 2008 20:32:42 GMT
people expect us to play like arsenal, they think it is that easy, i think whelean keeps the ball very well
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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 16, 2008 20:35:45 GMT
There is a difference between playing football at 0-0 or 1-0 up, to losing 2-0 at home to Scunthorpe in a must win match! Especially when we got to where we are by getting the ball forward as soon as possible. Now is not the time to arse about with a new style of play. There's a difference between effective passing football and passing the ball on the halfway line before losing it after being closed down. |
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Post by fca47 on Feb 16, 2008 20:38:15 GMT
Don't where you get that from. People were disgruntled because they were getting caught with the ball all the time, not because they were trying to play football. Scunthorpe played a pressing game right up the pitch and overan our midfield. Didn't help that Diao seemed to be asleep.
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Post by sportsman on Feb 16, 2008 20:39:26 GMT
So potters11. When it was 2-2 and Whelan passed back to Shawcross after showing some neat touches before laying it back, do you not think we whould be playing football at 2-2?
When would you like them to play football. Some anti-Pulis that we have had to put up with on here for a year or two would say ALWAYS. When we were 0-2 down were you then shouting 'lump it forward stoke'? I bet Pulis would have loved to hear you say that!!!
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Feb 16, 2008 20:40:45 GMT
I am VERY impressed with Whelan. Puts himself about and puts his foot on the ball. Its very rare he loses the ball.
SGS
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Post by potters11 on Feb 16, 2008 20:42:38 GMT
As long as we get results, it doesn't really bother me how much football we play!
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Post by sportsman on Feb 16, 2008 20:43:45 GMT
Mystical. I agree, don't change it too much to what has got us where we are, but most Stoke fans were calling for more football to be played. Pulis said all along that he would play more football when he has the right players to play it. With Whelan and Diao, he now has that. Surely we must allow them to play football and try to work the opposition.
We've shown plenty of signs of that in the last three matches. Good well worked goals and spreading the play from one side to the other. I just don't think that Stoke fans will ever allow football to be played, as much as they like to think they would.
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Post by TheBra1n on Feb 16, 2008 20:43:51 GMT
i am all for a good passing style of keep ball, keeping possesion for large periods of time and during the opposition out giving us more room to play football
i dont like it when we do this for a few minutes without gaining anything then allowing oursleves to be pushed back so far that the last man plays it back to simmo and he inturn smashes it as far up the park as he can, it just seems to me that all that possesion was a complete and utter waste of time
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Post by sportsman on Feb 16, 2008 20:45:59 GMT
Sometimes that happens though. If you watch Utd, Arsenal, how many times do they have to pass back to go forward? Loads.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2008 20:46:24 GMT
I am VERY impressed with Whelan. Puts himself about and puts his foot on the ball. Its very rare he loses the ball. SGS Whelan was constantly looking for the ball last night,finding space and rarely wasted a pass,he had to run his socks off to make up for Diao's terrible performance |
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Post by sportsman on Feb 16, 2008 20:48:01 GMT
dave. I agree. Think Whelan is a bit like Carrick. Nothing too spectacular (yet) but always just keeps it simple and moves the ball around.
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Post by Vodkab1ock on Feb 16, 2008 21:05:19 GMT
tbh why try to change are style just so other people look at us more favourable? We are top of the league playing "pulisball" long may it continue!!
Difference between the 1st and 2nd half yesterday were in the 2nd we didn't let them play football we closed down there number 8 i think who was pulling all the strings for them.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 16, 2008 21:07:47 GMT
Sporty,
I'm overwhelmed that you as a leader of the Pulis Rimming Fundamentalist Crack Suicide Squad should feel the urge to lecture on the benefits of possession football and a patient refusal to boot the ball long at any opportunity.
There is an irony in here somewhere, mate I'm just trying to find it!
;D
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 10, 2009 1:51:01 GMT
The higher the standard of football the more clear it becomes that possession is 9/10 of the law. It's so crucial to keep hold of it. When you are winning being able to kep hold of it and stifle the oppositions momentum is a huge asset. Thats one reason England have made a good start with Fabio. Usually now we keep the ball and wait for openings instead of before when we just hit crosses in the box and it came straight back at us.
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Post by Northy on Apr 10, 2009 5:19:01 GMT
The higher the standard of football the more clear it becomes that possession is 9/10 of the law. It's so crucial to keep hold of it. When you are winning being able to kep hold of it and stifle the oppositions momentum is a huge asset. Thats one reason England have made a good start with Fabio. Usually now we keep the ball and wait for openings instead of before when we just hit crosses in the box and it came straight back at us. probably one ofthe reasons why he doesn't like using Crouch, when Crouch is on the pitch there is the temptation to Whoooooosshh it forward |
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Post by scfclifer on Apr 10, 2009 7:04:37 GMT
long ball you should have played long ball ;d
ask the baggies if possesion is everything
long ball you should have played long ball ;d
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 10, 2009 7:13:04 GMT
when Crouch is on the pitch there is the temptation to Whoooooosshh it forward
Yep thats a big part of it. Our midfield actually has the ability to pass and build moves but too often they would be tempted to play a long whoooooosher and give the ball away.
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Post by RAF on Apr 10, 2009 7:14:05 GMT
Ladies and Gents irony comment of the century!
Personally I don't know anyone who shouts or has shouted 'lump it up' when we are in possession, nor have I fucking heard it either.
Although I have witnessed a fair bit of it happening on the pitch.
Not the shouting that is , just the actions.
H
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Post by cantspellwontspell on Apr 10, 2009 7:23:10 GMT
Ladies and Gents irony comment of the month! well it would be if the comment wasn't 14 months old ;D |
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Post by lancer on Apr 10, 2009 7:47:04 GMT
Right now, and so far this season, we're playing exactly how I want to play. We are not LOSING many, and how we achieve that doesn't bother me in the least.
WE will play better football when we have brought in better players, but right now, every lad playing in red and white is an hero to me.
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Post by riptide on Apr 10, 2009 9:09:23 GMT
Ladies and Gents I am here as the prime example! ;D |
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Post by RAF on Apr 10, 2009 9:30:31 GMT
Spacktator?
Says it all really fucking coward.
Remind us all of your name before you were banned?
H ;D
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Post by jimisastokie on Apr 10, 2009 9:48:27 GMT
sorry but are you a baggies fan?
where have you been all season? thats how we play. We play to our strengths, not pretend were arsenal like west brazil do.
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