BBC TELETEXT -RE PULIS

[cheekymatt71]

I cant believe that no-one has mentioned the main reason that people quit a job for another one.

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its pretty simple really. Its why Rednapp would have been tempted to leave a cushy job at Portsmouth to move to the glassbowl of Newcastle. The lure is NOT the size of the club although thats what they tell the press and fans for sure. The lure is an offer of a big payday regardless of pleasing the fans or the manager

So what is happening now is the same as anyone who has received a better offer would be doing. Mention quietly to your boss that the other lot down the road are willing to triple their salary. Now Coates will be scrabbling around trying to arrange a new contract at the highest wage ever for a Stoke manager. I think this wont be resolved until either Pulis leaves or signs a new contract with Stoke to stay until 2059.

[The Toxic Avenger]

Could Southampton afford to double his wages? Aren't they skint?

[Deleted]

Spiderman et al, ffs, aren't the Pulis knockers a tad bored? What, with him having answered most of the criticisms aimed at him, surely you must be lining up your next victim? You're the kinda cunts that call in to P&G having beaten Man United 8-0, complaining that your half-time pie was cold, the corners of the Brit still haven't been filled in, or the steward stood in front of you all match put you off, cos he had a boz-eye?

The longer your Pulis-bashing goes on, the more retarded you come across.

What's left to criticise him for???

"Its his style of play that's the problem" - what, the fact we're one of the divisions top-scorers, with some of the most exciting players the division has, in OUR first team?

"He only likes 6'4" black donkeys that can't pass straight" - patently bollocks.

"He's bought some shite" - in the main his signings have been superb.

We are now reagrded as a serious contender at our own level, 18 months back we were the laughing stock of the Championship. The players we have are quality, we've beaten off serious competition to sign some of them, and Pulis is getting more out of the Chairman than any manager we've had in the past.

Sadly we will always have the 'knockers' at Stoke, those just waiting to be proved 'right'...

[FullerMagic]

Southampton Daily Echo
Delaying appointment could be worth wait
By Simon Carter

COULD Saints' latest new investment statement to the Stock Exchange be a blessing in disguise with regards to the search for George Burley's successor?

Today's announcement that John Gorman and Jason Dodd are to remain in caretaker charge of Saints for the foreseeable future will surely divide the fanbase.

Some will argue that a new manager needs to be brought in ASAP to work with the squad, get to know them, and can then start rebuilding as he sees fit in the summer.

That is fair comment, but it is not difficult to see how Gorman and Dodd's extra time in charge could actually benefit Saints.

There is some sense in delaying a decision on the basis that to appoint a new boss now only to have to make another change if and when new investors come in would create further instability among the playing staff.

Lawrie McMenemy, Leon Crouch and Lee Hoos have all praised the work done by the caretakers since they were placed in charge.


There is a definite fresh air of hope and excitement at the training ground, and the players have responded to the new men in charge.

Saints could easily have made an appointment this week based on the people they have already interviewed.

The likes of Micky Adams and Steve Cotterill are out of work, having family ties to the south coast, and have extensive Championship experience.

Tony Pulis meets the latter two criteria but not the first as he is in charge at Saints' divisional rivals Stoke; indeed the two clubs meet each other next Tuesday in the Potteries.

It is believed he is on Saints' shortlist, but obviously at present has eyes on steering Stoke into the top flight.

If Saints waited until the end of the season, the likes of Cotterill and Adams might still be contenders.

Others, though, could also come into the equation - Pulis and Bristol City boss Gary Johnson could find Saints a more tempting offer if new investment has been attracted and their own clubs have not gone up.

Paul Ince is believed to have a gentleman's agreement with MK Dons to weigh up his options in the summer. He could appear on Saints' radar.

Should new investment be brought in - and Crouch remains privately hopeful that will be the case - then the club might suddenly appear a more attractive proposition for Glenn Hoddle or Chris Coleman, or even Graeme Souness.

Who knows who might become available and/or interested should the long-awaited new investment materialise?

Better managers, more suitable candidates, could emerge in 12 weeks time.

Is that too long to wait to make the right decision? A decision which a high level source at St Mary's has told me is the most important at the club for a long time'.

Who'd have thought Saints would be currently in the hands of two men whose previous managerial jobs were at Northampton and Eastleigh?

But that's the hand that Saints' directors have dealt the fans, and everyone must unite behind them - or as Tommy Docherty once said, preferably in front of them so they can see what you're up to!

The caretakers have the respect of the players and, with all the talk of new investment again this week, it's the players who should remain the central focus. Fans don't pay £25 a game to stare at the directors box.

The players are the ones who can take Saints into play-off contention, they are the ones who can bring FA Cup fever back to Southampton.

They are the present, the likes of Hoddle, Coleman, Pulis, Adams et al are the future - well, one of them anyway.

Fans can't have it both ways. They might desire a quick appointment but they would want Saints to make sure they get the right man. Sometimes one might not follow the other.

In life, you might have to wait for what you really want.

Football is no different, and as I've said, it could open up Saints' options, not harm them.

8:00am today

[realstokebloke]

Doesn't say to me he's top of the list.

Should he need it, it's obviously a bargaining chip he doesn't really need.

He loves Coates (As well as his Mama of course) and the feeling is clearly reciprocated.

Surely he won't be going anywhere any time soon (i.e. this season anyway).

[FullerMagic]

This story keeps coming back, I'd guess it may have some foundation and there could well have been contact suggesting he'd be interested in the summer if we don't go up?

Someone is being fed these stories. It's in 2-3 tabloids this morning.

Depends how much importance he'd place on having a 'normal' married life with his wife?

Professionally, I can't see there being much of a pull at the moment, ,when you see the position of the 2 clubs on and off the pitch, especially with him having the chance this season to do something pretty special with us.

But there seems to be talk of some major investment on its way in the next few months. If so, it'd instantly become a really attractive job and you'd think they could attract a much bigger name than Pulis.

But if he was the man they wanted, with him only seeing his wife 1 day a week, Southampton is probably the best job he could ever get geographically? About as perfect as it could get.

I'm sure they could more than match his salary.

It would seem he's got his teeth into things here much too hard to seriously consider jumping ship at this stage of things - but chuck in a leisurely 20-minute drive to training from his family home and some proper money to spend in the market this summer - and who knows?

[realstokebloke]

Agree with all of that FM - so we'll just have to put up with him this season 'til he gets us up & then go for Mourinho in the summer.

[PONTAFCE]

Why on earth woud he want to go to another club who aint got any money and had to put two of the best players out on loan to cut costs? Personally i think if he is interested he would go at the end of the season but i really dont thin that southampton will go till then without a manager.

[FullerMagic]

They've already announced to the Stock Exchange today that Gorman and Dodd will remain as caretakers "for the foreseeable future".

And if they get the major investment that's predicted in the next few months, they should be a much more attractive proposition come the summer.

[FullerMagic]

They're having a poll on the Soton forum.

View Poll Results: Pulis at end of season if Stoke not promoted?

Yes 8 4.82%
No 140 84.34%
Undecided 18 10.84%

Voters: 166.

[FullerMagic]

Reaction generally not positive on the South Coast.




*Good plan to do this poll Saintlee.If any of the Saints board read this site hopefully they will now get the message that 85% of Saints fans DONT want bloody Pulis!

*This aired on the radio on tuesday evening, apparently the presenter recieved a phone call from an ex player.
I have also heard it from a different source which makes me slightly concerned.


*Could be the most unpopular appointment in the history of the club.

*The alleged thought process behind the move -- if he fails, get him -- is side-splitting.

*His football has always been on the cruder side of direct.Even his track record isn't that good. One promotion (from the 4th tier ten years ago), mid-table mediocrity, failure at a couple of clubs.
He can't be anywhere close to being our first choice. It just can't be true.



*If true - what an unmitigated disaster waiting to happen and shame on the BOard. Hopefully not an ounce of truth in it!

*I could only stomach Pulis' style IF he was proven to be able to get teams out of the CCC. If he fails to get Stoke promoted then he has no value for us IMO.

*No but I would prefer him to Doddery and Gormless


*Hope this is more sh*t made up from the papers.

*Yep, if Pulis wants to hedge his bets then he should not be a candidate. Whatever happened to that phrase we all keep hearing when we get rid of players about hearts not in it and only wanting those who are fully commited? Does it not apply to managers then?

*What a nightmare if true.



*NO NO NO NO NO.The guy would be Branfoot MK2.

*Pulis could achieve the ultimate at Southampton in record time.He would be more hated than Branfoot,and I doubt he would last a season.

*its all paper talk.if we get a new investor he would want his own choice of manager

*IMHO I feel our options for a better quality manager will be greatly improved at the end of the season, as any manager is an option, within reason, as they will be more open to moving clubs at that point when they are looking to rebuild anyway.

*Its common sense. D&g have done ok and why change without really assessing the job in hand.Pulis will be p#####g off his board fans and players by not coming out and saying no.That will mean I suspect their form will drop and they will fade away.Or Pulis is hoping to unnerve his board and they give him a massive wage hike on the back of this.

*Our board would be foolish to appoint him bacause it is certain our fans are dead against his style of football , however effective it is in this league.

*Not to mention that, if Pulis was appointed later, we would be rewarding another manager for failure. Yes Mr Pulis, you failed to get promoted, come and join us!

*If were waiting till the summer id rather hoddle he should be available by then.

*Well that's me supporting Stoke for promotion this season

*For the love of god not Pulis

*Hmm, would be an interesting strategy...
"Hey Leon, I've got an idea, let's appoint a manager so long as he fails at his current club..."

*Why appoint somebody with no track record of promotion from our division, but only on the proviso that he fails again? Madness

*No. Why give a job to someone because he has just failed else where? Where's the ambition?

*No way. He is in his best spell now, if he cant get them promoted he wont get us promoted!!! IMO

*No, if we're waiting till the end of the season a few more managers will be available to us and with decent investment we could do a lot better then Pulis

*Another long ball merchant, thanks but no thanks

*The only thing going for Tony Pulis is his undoubted abilty to unite the fanbase.
He would have us all rooting for his head wthin a couple of games, cap and all

*A decent club would come straight out and scotch this rumour. A crap club would consider it as a possibility. WTF is going on? Where has all the money gone? Why are we so tin pot?

*Worrying that 5% DO want Pulis, and 10% could be persuaded. It's a NO from me.

[FullerMagic]

www.clubcall.com/index.jsp?storyID=333358

You'd think this'd require more than the half-hearted alleged laughing-off of the story that he mustered on Saturday?

I suppose no-one will ever know just how much contact he has had with Southampton unofficially and through intermediaries etc - if any?

STOKE CITY: HAPPY PULIS LAUGHS OFF SAINTS RUMOUR
16:36 - 02 February 2008

Stoke boss Tony Pulis laughed off speculation linking him with Southampton as he basked in the joy of today's 2-1 home win over Cardiff.

His name was thrown into the melting pot in the national press today as the guesswork continues over the identity of George Burley's successor at St Mary's.

But Pulis, whose wife resides at the family home on the south coast at Bournemouth, joked: "Debbie will be absolutely delighted because I will be only 35 minutes from home."

[serpico]

why haven't they moved up to stoke ?

[realstokebloke]

hebangsthedrums said:

*Well that's me supporting Stoke for promotion this season

;D

Hopefully the players feel that way too & will let us win next week.

[Titan Uranus]

Wonder why nobody wants our Tone?

looks to me there would be a riot down at Saints if they did appoint him.

funny innit.

[FullerMagic]

Sounds like his appt would be about as popular as it was here first time 'round.


Oh...and 2nd time 'round.

Quite surprising that the prospect of a Pulis regime isn't getting more palatable.

[mermaidsal]

Hmm, think this has got a ring of truth despite being in the Sun. If I were TP, first of all I'd want to stay at Stoke, obviously, but if I was daft enough to be seriously considering Southampton I certainly wouldn't commit myself till they've got their new investors on board, after seeing how that panned out with Steve Bruce at Birmingham.