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Post by Irish Stokie on Apr 20, 2009 15:40:53 GMT
I havent heard anything very offensive to be honest and swearing at a match is a given and adds to the atmosphere at our games IMO
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Post by DrGonzo on Apr 20, 2009 15:42:29 GMT
What remaining hard core of racism?? ??? Under the stands at half time in the Boothen for a good few games this season. At one game (Bolton?) there were prob 30-40 joining in including a group of kids no older than 14/15.
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Post by stayingupforalasrimmed on Apr 20, 2009 15:45:16 GMT
Anyone who is wrapped up in that much cotton wool has no place at a football match
As Chubby Brown would say..."Fucking Cunts"
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 20, 2009 15:48:50 GMT
I haven't actually heard any racism from my season ticket seat at home this season but I did hear some last season and the season before that I told a bloke behind me I'd have him ejected if he didn't stop racially abusing Mama. I also heard a couple of stewards being called "Paki Bastards" in the Boothen concourse. At away games I'm sorry to say I have heard racist remarks from one or two Stokies on one or two occasions this season. Mermaid Sal is right - racism amongst Stokies isn't as bad as it was but it still exists and I wish it didn't. If I had young kids it would be the thought of them being exposed to racist chanting that would concern me not swearing. I can't believe they don't hear just as bad in most school playgrounds in the country.
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Post by anarchicalan on Apr 20, 2009 15:50:35 GMT
What remaining hard core of racism?? ??? "keep St. george in my heart" is a racist - anti-Irish - song. The term "Gypo" is a racist term. I've also heard individual racist comments, nothing like as bad a sit used to be though. I suppose it's more noticeable simply because it is so rare these days. However, there are still the "you german/scots/welsh/french bastard" shouts from time to time, especially when there's a blatant dive or attempt to get a card brandished. If a player is cheating, it doesn't matter what nationality he is, he's a cheat. Let's be fair, the likes of SWP (and his dad), Heskey, Shearer, Andy Johnson and Frannie Lee have hardly covered the English in glory with their theatricals.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2009 15:55:12 GMT
Mr Wardrobe Monster Man, go and watch a Childrens Sunday football game and tell me who are swearing and screaming like a load of witches and banshees and even fighting amongst themselves, because it is all those mothers who on a Saturday will tell me to stop swearing whilst I watch 22 men play football.
Double bloody standards, fuck em, football is passion and I will swear in a moment of passion, tell the screaming banshees to piss off
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Post by mikeyb99 on Apr 20, 2009 16:08:13 GMT
Given the price of Premiership football it isn't surprising that the middle classes make up an increasing percentage of Premier League attendances I always thought that the areas around Stoke would eventually swell our gates as those outside the city took the opportunity to watch top class football close to home However I heard on Saturday of a relatively local family rejecting the opportunity of watching Stoke, not because of the cost, but because they didn't want their children listening to some of our more colourful banter Could the crowd chants limit our attendance growth? Fair play to them - they don't like it, so they're not going. As long as they respect the right of others to swear and shout at football matches, I don't have a problem. Its the self-righteous, politically-correct, know-it-all that never has, and never will, go to a football match but feels its their right to tell others what isn't acceptable that winds me up. Will it limit our attendances? No. Do I care if little Tara and Beatrice are deemed too precious to attend a vulgar football match with all those crude plebs? No.
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Post by hoofmagic on Apr 20, 2009 17:01:44 GMT
ive never ever swore in front of my kids,if they swear when they aint with me then ok thats life,but ill never take my kids while there's foul language although they do want me to take them, thats my opinion .
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Post by LDE76 on Apr 20, 2009 17:33:55 GMT
Unless they're home-schooled, I'd suggest that the kids may be able to teach their parents a few words.
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Post by slangking on Apr 20, 2009 17:50:39 GMT
The remaining hard core of racism bothers me far more. where do you sit? i can HONESTLY say i`ve heard NO racism this season at a home game-neither color or nationality, it would be very hypocritical given the nature of our squad ??? 'town ful of 'pak1s' chanted at Blackburn fans by a few people on Saturday several times, ignored by most thankfully.
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Post by march4 on Apr 20, 2009 18:16:56 GMT
I don't swear and I don't like to hear people swearing at work, but football is somehow different.
I don't mind in the slightest the language at Stoke, as most Stokies avoid outrageously obscene chants. The stronger language tends to be from individual comments rather the chants and some of it is very funny.
If you want to avoid bad language at football, then I presume you wouldn't watch it on TV either. Close ups of Rooney et al don't make lip reading too difficult.
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Post by andylgr on Apr 20, 2009 18:30:23 GMT
Slightly off topic I know, but a friend of mine is a Newcastle fan and he was dropped off at the Brit for the game vs the geordies. This was his first visit to Stoke on Trent and to the Britannina. He gets out of the car, proudly displaying his Newcastle shirt, and the first thing that greets him is 'Fuck off you cunt' from a fat middle aged bird.
Welcome to Stoke my friend.
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Post by CraigWally on Apr 20, 2009 18:54:15 GMT
It hasn't stopped the kids who sit near me
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Post by DrGonzo on Apr 20, 2009 18:55:03 GMT
One thing the Premiership has brought out is some of the brain dead morons the City has - such as the bloke who was shouting that he wished the bloke who fell from the bridge 'was dead' because he 'wanted to get home and get pissed'.
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Post by Nobby's scrotum on Apr 20, 2009 19:01:43 GMT
you get morons with every set of footy fans.if people want to shout and swear let them do it. if people dont like it they dont have to come........simples
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Post by smirny72 on Apr 20, 2009 19:02:23 GMT
My kids stand with me in the Boothen and join in the songs but usually miss out the swear words. Sometimes it slips out and they take a sideways glance to see if im listening. You cant wrap ur kids in cotton wool they will hear it somewhere its how u deal with it as a parent that makes the difference. I wouldnt move from the Boothen I love the atmosphere
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Post by Jimbo on Apr 20, 2009 19:06:45 GMT
I think it's every parent's right to decide whether they believe it's appropriate for their children to hear swearing at football. This is especially true if they are young children.
As for racism, it's sad that it is still there. I sit in block 22 and have heard it both in the concourse (individual comments and group chanting). I've also heard non-white stewards racially abused for asking people not to smoke in the toilets, and racially abused for asking people standing blocking the aisles at the back to return to their seats.
Generally, I don't have a problem with swearing at football as I do it myself. I don't think swearing at football is working- or middle-class.
To borrow from the other thread, I think our support is more gentrified than people might think. You only have to look at the car parks to see people driving new Audis and BMWs. I think that if the club is attracting such supporters either through Premier League football or before, then this can only be a good thing for the club's future.
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Post by lordeffinghamhunt on Apr 20, 2009 19:10:33 GMT
A bloke and his daughter who is about 10 sits next to us and we come out with every sort of abuse under the sun (non racist). I said to him the last match if he had renewed his season tickets and said he had. I said i bet they aren't for here again are they to which he replied yes they are.
the moral of this story is " fork theses plastic prawn sandwich eating twats".
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Post by Borderline Alky on Apr 20, 2009 19:12:32 GMT
Who gives a fuck. If they don't like it, there are plenty of plastic teams to watch that are not too far away from Stoke. BRILLIANT! ;D
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Post by cantspellwontspell on Apr 20, 2009 19:46:37 GMT
my mum n (ex) step dad could be considered to be middle class , I still took my little (half) sister and brother down to games from aged 6 and took them in the Boothen at the Vic. It didn't seem to have bothered them
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Post by stayingupforalasrimmed on Apr 20, 2009 19:48:10 GMT
One thing the Premiership has brought out is some of the brain dead morons the City has - such as the bloke who was shouting that he wished the bloke who fell from the bridge 'was dead' because he 'wanted to get home and get pissed'. I hate those brain dead morons too..... ...that poor guy just wants to get home for a beer!
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Post by Dr Oetcake on Apr 20, 2009 20:40:02 GMT
My little lad might be autistic, and I dont know if he will ever be able to join me at a match, I hope he will though, and if so, I know that swearing is part of the game, I was exposed to it in the Boothen in the 70s and it part of the right of passage for a lad growing up, well, it was in my day, and as my wife and lad are Irish, I know that there is nowhere where they will get a better welcome than Stoke, I am proud of the friendly welcome that Stokies offer, becasue there isnt a better bunch of people on the planet.
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Apr 20, 2009 20:52:29 GMT
Each to their own I guess.....
Like most people I don't swear at home but do from time to time at football . One of my daughters is a regular and now two grandsons
As has been said swearing at football is a release for emotions that we repress most of the time
One element of swearing that I don't like is the chant of 'wanker' which has become a regular taunt at our games. In this case the word is used to target a particular player as a term of abuse. I suspect that it is this use of swearing that the likes of the PFA and Guardian are putting forward for public scrutiny
BTW the family concerned are connected with the club and cost definitely isn't part of their decision to not attend
PS hoof (above) indicates another group who might be kept away by gratuitous swearing
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