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Post by cantspellwontspell on Apr 19, 2009 16:28:27 GMT
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Post by mermaidsal on Apr 19, 2009 18:07:24 GMT
I reckon SCFC have done as much as anyone this season to reclaim it from pillocks like that.
I'm not a Neanderthal either but if there were only those two choices I'd line up with the Neanderthals.
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Post by swampySCFC on Apr 19, 2009 18:11:26 GMT
I am neanderthal and I dont care what the tosser says
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Post by Rebelliousjukebox on Apr 19, 2009 18:20:41 GMT
I noticed that, whilst he was going on about abusive fans, he made no mention that the blatant racist abuse has virtually disappeared. There are still racist fans (you only have to look on here sometimes), but it seems to be widely accepted that racist abuse/chants are unacceptable - surely that has to be progress?
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Apr 19, 2009 18:24:44 GMT
By calling Diouf a wanker I'm just stating a fact. If that makes me a neanderthal so be it, I think I can live with it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2009 18:58:00 GMT
interesting article but a least half of it was a load of bollocks
one of the reasons I go to Stoke is to have a good vile shout, and its not really about the players extortionate wages , its just us versus them
whats a decent fan anyway
do we want football to become like baseball
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Post by chiswickpotter on Apr 19, 2009 19:14:23 GMT
I have been a Guardian/Observer reader for 30 years but am finding myself bemused with their current views on football - Mr Alexander's report on the Middlesborough game, this article today, I genuinely am unclear what their desired world looks like.
Was the football really better when pitches were like the Baseball ground, defenders could kick lumps out of people, Leeds stopped everyone playing, Liverpool passed back to the goalie for 20 minutes and Arsenal won 1-0 ? Thre are few ganes like Chelsea-Liverpool this week in any season, most football is a hard battle.I watched my first Stoke game in 1969 and there haven't been many better footballing defenders than Abdi Faye in any team during that period. We get to watch technically good, well organised, very fit footballers, I think a Premiership game at Stoke is a fantastic experience and spectacle, only part of which is on the pitch.
As for the abuse. Going to the Vic, Old Trafford, Stamford Bridge or most grounds in the 70s and early 80s is a million miles away from anything we experience now in terms of abuse, violence and attitude and players took huge amounts of stick without seeming to be too bothered. Do they want us to act like golf crowds and sit in absolute silence.
Seemed to me a complete waste of newsprint. I would liek to hear TP's views
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Post by stokemark on Apr 19, 2009 19:26:52 GMT
I am, frankly, shocked at such a piece of crud by the Guardian. Fuck me, we'll be turning up in dickie bows and dinner suits soon if they have their way  |
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Post by powchirper on Apr 19, 2009 19:35:32 GMT
Some of the Chelsea faithfull could be plainly seen politely clapping goals v Liverpool the other night, Compare this with the mental at the Brit yesterday and the southern plums are a million light years behind us in the passion stakes. Perhaps this is what the hack at the paper wants.
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Apr 19, 2009 19:44:39 GMT
It's the fucking Guardian! Liberal do gooder nonsense. If they had their way a football game would be akin to a cricket match. They must have failed to notice that domestic cricket in this country is dying on its arse.
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Post by lurcherman on Apr 19, 2009 19:49:13 GMT
Only two things are certain. One is that spectators' behaviour towards players and managers is worse now, in the early years of football's second period, than it ever was in the first. Mmmm...... I might just have to disagree with that bit  He may just want to give Stan Bowles a ring aswell ;D
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Apr 19, 2009 19:52:48 GMT
I've just wasted 30 minutes of my life reading this article..although there are some decent replies.. Sanctimomious twaddle written by some Sociology lecturer type who would shit himself at The Brit..frightened to death by all the noise and verbal-abuse..that genuine football people make..that you don't get sitting with the prawn-cocktail brigade... There is something almost primeval about a football match which turns even the most mild-mannered person, like me, into a Pyscopathic Neanderthal once I get through the turnstile... It's called 'passion' and it's what you do when you love your club the way that I love Stoke City... And if swearing is so bad and upsetting to 'decent' people...how the fuck does Gordon Ramsey get away with it? Stick to your Sociology books mate...something that you understand... |
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Post by dazscfc on Apr 19, 2009 19:56:53 GMT
This is why you shouldn't read the Observer for football news!!
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Post by dazscfc on Apr 19, 2009 19:57:26 GMT
This is why you shouldn't read The Observer for football news!!!
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Post by monkhousestokie on Apr 19, 2009 20:06:48 GMT
Intellectual: someone educated beyond their intelligence.
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Post by Rebelliousjukebox on Apr 19, 2009 20:08:17 GMT
It's the fucking Guardian! Liberal do gooder nonsense. If they had their way a football game would be akin to a cricket match. They must have failed to notice that domestic cricket in this country is dying on its arse. As a Guardian reading do-gooder (not a Liberal!), I think that the article is a load of crap - he seems to want football fans to behave like people attending the ballet. Having said that, I don't read the Guardian, or the Observer - its close relative on Sunday in which this article was - for the football coverage. |
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Post by mermaidsal on Apr 19, 2009 21:06:18 GMT
There is something almost primeval about a football match which turns even the most mild-mannered person, like me, into a Pyscopathic Neanderthal once I get through the turnstile... It's called 'passion' and it's what you do when you love your club the way that I love Stoke City... That is so well put, I agree with every word and it's why we're all here on the Oatie too. |
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Post by Baggs on Apr 19, 2009 22:17:13 GMT
read to halfway and just lost the will to live any longer.
avenge my death
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Post by altair on Apr 19, 2009 22:19:17 GMT
I think that Paul Wilson is an Everton Supporter, but most weeks he reports on ManUre, and when he isn't he manages to include references to them in his column. He knows which side his bread is buttered, and sucks up to the great and the good. He even campaigned to have the proposed FA academy in Burton on Trent to be scrapped and sited in London instead. I'm a thirty-year Observer reader, raised on the brilliant sports writing of Hugh McIlvany. Paul Wilson is an illiterate fool by comparison.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Apr 20, 2009 9:06:43 GMT
I was almost expecting us to be name-checked when i got to the half way mark, especially considering the middlesborough and brazil match reports in the guardian, but that would possibly require Mr Wilson to make an arguement that the premier league superstars do not masturbate . I have started to be a bit more conscious of what comes from my mouth this season, I swear over-liberally as it is, so normally have a look around to see if there are any kids within earshot of me before the game, however i have more than once been sat behind 7 year old kids with mum and dad teaching the kid to give the V's or wanker hand motion, one child actually being given a high five for joining in with the wanker chants. Observer sport is pretty good if you ask me, but these comment columns are always going to be nonsense 50% of the time by their very nature and the fact that he has to think something up each week. |
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Post by Anto1962 on Apr 20, 2009 9:16:07 GMT
In the Chelsea V Everton game earlier this season Chelski fans continually sang a song about Phil Neville being a CU%t, this was none stop throughout the game and as loud as you like .Are they neanderthal ???.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Apr 20, 2009 9:39:07 GMT
Of course not - because he is a CU%t!
BTW ant, hope you don't mind but I've corrected your punctuation.
;D
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Post by Anto1962 on Apr 20, 2009 9:50:17 GMT
Mind I'm bloody glad you did some bugger ought to ;D
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Post by lordeffinghamhunt on Apr 20, 2009 9:53:13 GMT
A newspaper written by qunts to be read by qunts
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Apr 20, 2009 9:56:45 GMT
There is something almost primeval about a football match which turns even the most mild-mannered person, like me, into a Pyscopathic Neanderthal once I get through the turnstile... It's called 'passion' and it's what you do when you love your club the way that I love Stoke City... That is so well put, I agree with every word and it's why we're all here on the Oatie too. Well said Sal...couldn't agree more ;D Hugh McIlvany is a brilliant sports writer Seymour... And I don't read The Guardian for the sport either Jukebox..which makes me a *unt Lord Eff... And I don't swear at football matches..just sing my heart out...City Til I Die... |
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Post by Rebelliousjukebox on Apr 20, 2009 12:18:40 GMT
A newspaper written by qunts to be read by qunts Rather be a qunt then than an idiot who get all their ideas out of The Sun.  |
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Apr 20, 2009 14:16:02 GMT
A newspaper written by qunts to be read by qunts Rather be a qunt then than an idiot who get all their ideas out of The Sun. 'Ideas out of The Sun'.... Surely some mistake? |
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Post by Rebelliousjukebox on Apr 20, 2009 20:36:42 GMT
Rather be a qunt then than an idiot who get all their ideas out of The Sun. 'Ideas out of The Sun'.... Surely some mistake? Yes, but "ideas" in the context of Eff's 2 brain cells makes the Sun about the right level. |
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