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Post by clergue on Apr 18, 2009 12:36:33 GMT
A Liverpool footballer has been suspended after claims he behaved inappropriately during the Hillsborough memorial service.
Reserve goalkeeper Charles Itandje is seen smiling and nudging a team-mate in footage of the service held to remember the 96 fans killed in the 1989 tragedy.
About 30,000 supporters, players past and present and families of survivors attended the service at Anfield.
Itandje has been suspended for 14 days while the club probes the allegations.
The footage of the French goalkeeper, who was sitting in the Kop with fellow players, behind families of the victims, is being circulated on the internet.
Damian Plessis, a Liverpool reserve midfielder who is also from France, is shown not to react as he is nudged by Itandje.
Itandje was told by Liverpool manager Rafa Benitez not to attend training on Friday.
A Liverpool spokesman confirmed: "Charles Itandje has now been officially suspended for 14 days by the club while we investigate his conduct during the Hillsborough Memorial Service."
Les Lawson, secretary of the Merseyside branch of the official Liverpool Supporters' Club, said: "I think he should be sacked.
I'm sure the club will investigate it properly
Margaret Aspinall, Hillsborough Families Support Group "There is no excuse for not showing respect to the 96 supporters.
"It was a sombre occasion and for him to do what he was doing was a total and utter disgrace.
"It's good that Liverpool Football Club have acted quickly and suspended him but I don't think he should ever set foot in the club again."
The 96 Liverpool fans were crushed to death during Liverpool's FA Cup semi final against Nottingham Forest on 15 April 1989.
Many fans have written comments branding Itandje disrespectful, immature and insensitive or have called for him to be sacked or sold.
One comment on the popular lfcreds.com site said: "Hillsborough is a very meaningful and important event for Liverpool, the families of the victims, the club, the team and the people of Liverpool.
"If Itandje really did that, then he has no respect."
Itandje signed for Liverpool in August 2007 and made his first team debut the following month, but has not played for the first team this season.
He was placed on the club's transfer list last summer.
Margaret Aspinall, who lost her 18-year-old son James in the stadium disaster and is vice chair of the Hillsborough Families Support Group, said: "I'm sure the club will investigate it properly."
Oh Dear. I fear that he may not get a warm reception if and when he ever plays for Liverpool again!
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Post by salopstick on Apr 18, 2009 12:42:13 GMT
having looked at the footage it seems that there is nothing in it imo
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Post by clergue on Apr 18, 2009 12:52:33 GMT
I know what you mean. However, we'll hear nothing but "crucify him" from the mob who are, after all, seeking justice for the 96. This will add crist to their mill and Liverpool will sack him etc, etc.
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Post by clergue on Apr 18, 2009 12:52:56 GMT
I meant Grist to their mill, not crist!
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Post by salopstick on Apr 18, 2009 12:54:04 GMT
liverpool fans will look for any way to slate someone for being disrespectful to hillsborough even boycotting firms that advertise in the sun
itande will be sold now
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Post by burberrybassist on Apr 18, 2009 12:57:16 GMT
I think people are over reacting a bit. At the end of the day he should of just sat there and pretended to be sad and mournful even if he wasn't as I'm sure he's been told the importance of the event. Sitting through a few hours of speeches in a foreign language can't be fun for anyone though and I think that he just got a bit bored and distracted. Yes he should apologize but calling for him to be sacked is a bit harsh.
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Post by clergue on Apr 18, 2009 13:01:27 GMT
Yet that won't be enough! It'll never be enough. Liverpool fans must have JUSTICE!!!! (In what form that "justice" will take is debatable) Will they seek to prosecute the police officers on duty at Leppings Lane, The Sheffield Wednesday stewards unable to hold back the mob as they surged onward or the FA for over selling tickets at that end? Twenty years on and people are still angry about this!
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Post by burberrybassist on Apr 18, 2009 13:05:39 GMT
Well as the great man Boris Johnson once said "The people of Liverpool do seem to have a victim complex"
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Post by salopstick on Apr 18, 2009 13:08:17 GMT
Well as the great man Boris Johnson once said "The people of Liverpool do seem to have a victim complex" he got slated but he was true - they did not give qa fuck when they inflicted sonia, cilla and lily savage on us
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Post by gleghornsgoolies on Apr 18, 2009 13:33:15 GMT
Liverpool have the most pathetic set of supporters in the country.
"Ooh pity us, pity us, we're victims... we don't deserve this, but we still struggle on regardless"
Cringe.
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 18, 2009 15:04:07 GMT
Yet that won't be enough! It'll never be enough. Liverpool fans must have JUSTICE!!!! (In what form that "justice" will take is debatable) Will they seek to prosecute the police officers on duty at Leppings Lane, The Sheffield Wednesday stewards unable to hold back the mob as they surged onward or the FA for over selling tickets at that end? Twenty years on and people are still angry about this! What a pity they can't all be more like you clergue, and just shrug off the fact that their family members died because of incompetence, then they were lied about in the most shameless manner in the national press and to this day suffer disgusting accusations like "you killed your own fans" based on those lies, and still nobody has apologised or taken any responsibility, despite it being very clear whose fault it was. Oh well, chin up, these things happen eh?
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Post by harrysburrow on Apr 18, 2009 15:25:59 GMT
There is an over-reaction, but it wasn't much to ask for a 26 year old to behave himself for a couple of hours was it?
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Post by french toast on Apr 18, 2009 16:00:59 GMT
is he any good?
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Post by clergue on Apr 18, 2009 16:21:03 GMT
Why? Do you think Tone should put in a cheeky bid?
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Post by tsm on Apr 18, 2009 16:23:47 GMT
lol, that's what I was thinking. ETA I just watched the video. It looks a bit like he was just digging the music. ETA2 Apparently they can't get shut cause of his outrageous wage demands. ETA3 That song the bald bloke was singing is awful.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Apr 18, 2009 16:36:56 GMT
Families did bring a private prosecution against the police commander and his deputy citing manslaughter and negligence. The jury found the deputy not guilty and could not come to a decision on the commander. So what exactly do the scousers want when the bay for justice. The same fans went to Athen 2 years ago and behaved like animals by stealing tickets off children and rushing the gates to get into the ground.
What the families of the 96 should be doing imo is campaigning for liverpool supporters to act responsibly so that a hillsborough never ever happens again
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Post by PottersPride on Apr 18, 2009 16:39:03 GMT
anyone got the footage
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Post by clergue on Apr 18, 2009 21:29:45 GMT
look on the bbc website. The clip is on there int he football section. Lawryleslie, I agree with your points. It seems that you can't say anything about Hillsborough without people attacking you for insensitivity and all that. The private prosecution failed yet they still want "justice". Who'll be the first to say what they really want?
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Post by imallstokedup on Apr 18, 2009 21:33:22 GMT
Mmmmmmmmmmm................... maybe one for the dog's home.
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Post by imallstokedup on Apr 18, 2009 21:37:16 GMT
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Post by stockportpotter on Apr 18, 2009 22:24:52 GMT
UNBELIEVABLE!
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Post by DannyStokie on Apr 18, 2009 23:41:47 GMT
Bloody hell, he didnt do anything.
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Post by salopstick on Apr 18, 2009 23:45:10 GMT
where is justiceforthe96 - would love to hear his take
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Post by crimesy on Apr 19, 2009 0:15:10 GMT
Bloody hell, he is smiling, its hardly 'laughing and joking' which is what i heard.
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Post by jarhead on Apr 19, 2009 0:32:16 GMT
Seriously is that it????
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Post by clergue on Apr 19, 2009 0:45:04 GMT
yes but you can't be seen to crack a grin in the vicinity of Merseyside at the moment or you'll get lynched! Feelings are running high!
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Post by StoKeith on Apr 19, 2009 1:31:18 GMT
All he did was smile slightly and sway a little bit!
Not exactly proper behaviour for a highly emotive memorial service but suspending him for 14 days and devoting any column inches on it is a MASSIVE overreaction.
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Post by salopstick on Apr 19, 2009 8:26:56 GMT
note the smiles on gerrard and carra when at the mayors civic reception
sack them, sack them
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Post by One-Two on Apr 19, 2009 8:32:41 GMT
absolute joke
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2009 8:41:37 GMT
This story sums them up for me.
Community grieves for dead chicken October 2005
A community mourning the death of a mystery "baby" was told today: "Stop grieving, it's only a chicken."
A makeshift shrine of flowers and cards sprang up after a member of the public discovered the remains of a foetus in a back alley in Anfield, Liverpool.
Merseyside Police cordoned off the scene to investigate, but tests soon revealed that it was only a chicken foetus.
The truth was reported in a local newspaper, but a rumour had already swept the area that a dead baby had been found. More than a dozen bunches of flowers were laid at the scene by well-wishers, along with teddy bears and cards. One card read: "RIP Little Baby. Safe in the arms of Jesus. From someone who is a loving mother xxxx."
A spokeswoman for Merseyside Police stressed today that the remains were not human. She said: "It seems a member of the public saw the remains of a foetus, which possibly resembled a human foetus, and called us. "We cordoned off the area to investigate, as we would with any possible suspicious death, but it became apparent it was not a human foetus. "The flowers and cards are obviously the result of local gossip, but we can assure people that the remains were not human."
Conservative MP Boris Johnson was forced to apologise last year after the Spectator magazine, which he edits, claimed that Liverpudlians typify "the mawkish sentimentality of a society hooked on grief".
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