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Post by PenkhullStokie on Apr 8, 2009 11:37:42 GMT
BEST SCENARIO : Chelsea v Bolton - Chelsea win Liverpool v Blackburn - Liverpool win Middlesbrough v Hull - Boro win Portsmouth v West Brom - West Brom win Stoke v Newcastle - Stoke win Sunderland v Man Utd - Man Utd win Tottenham v West Ham - West Ham win Wigan v Arsenal - doesnt matter Have'nt done goal difference. It would'nt make much of a diference unless we won 9-0 and Tottenham lost 9-0. 10 Man City 31 7 38 11 Tottenham 31 1 38 12 Stoke 31 -16 38 13 Bolton 31 -9 37 14 Blackburn 31 -15 34 15 Hull 31 -17 34 16 Portsmouth 30 6 -14 33 17 Sunderland 31 -12 32 ------------------------------- 18 Middlesbrough 31 -24 30 19 Newcastle 31 -15 29 20 West Brom 31 -31 27 WORST SCENARIO : Chelsea v Bolton - Bolton win. Liverpool v Blackburn - Blackburn win Middlesbrough v Hull - Hull win Portsmouth v West Brom - Portsmouth win Stoke v Newcastle - Newcastle win Sunderland v Man Utd - Sunderland win Tottenham v West Ham - Tottenham win Wigan v Arsenal - doesnt matter 10 Tottenham 31 1 41 11 Man City 31 7 38 12 Bolton 31 -9 37 13 Blackburn 31 -15 37 14 Hull 31 -17 37 15 Portsmouth 30 -14 36 16 Sunderland 31 -12 35 17 Stoke 31 -16 35 ---------------------------- 18 Newcastle 31 -15 32 19 Middlesbrough 31 -24 27 20 West Brom 31 -31 24 Discuss.  |
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Post by stokelad84 on Apr 8, 2009 11:38:58 GMT
It shows theres still a lot of work to do!
We are far from safe yet
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Post by scfctilidie on Apr 8, 2009 11:42:33 GMT
BEST SCENARIO : Chelsea v Bolton - Chelsea win Liverpool v Blackburn - Liverpool win Middlesbrough v Hull - Boro win Portsmouth v West Brom - West Brom win Stoke v Newcastle - Stoke win Sunderland v Man Utd - Man Utd win Tottenham v West Ham - West Ham win Wigan v Arsenal - doesnt matter Chelsea v Bolton - Chelsea win Liverpool v Blackburn - Liverpool win Middlesbrough v Hull - Draw? Portsmouth v West Brom - Draw? Stoke v Newcastle - Stoke win Sunderland v Man Utd - Man Utd win Tottenham v West Ham - West Ham win Wigan v Arsenal - doesnt matter If brazil draw, they keep portsmouth from dragging away and they are down away. If boro win, they are climbing closer to escaping and a draw would see hull kept within distance of the relegation zone |
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Post by BuzzB on Apr 8, 2009 11:45:39 GMT
I see a flaw  games played would be 32 not 31 ;D Looks good though and highly possible. |
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Post by Bick on Apr 8, 2009 11:45:58 GMT
Nice post that! But we shouldnt be worrying about other teams. Just gettin the points ourselves.
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Post by PenkhullStokie on Apr 8, 2009 11:47:50 GMT
i was actually quite scared when i saw the worst scenario as we could find ourselves just outside the relegation zone. Even so even if we loose i doubt all the others around us will win.
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Post by crimesy on Apr 8, 2009 11:52:20 GMT
Worst possible scenerio and we're 3 points above the drop zone. I'd have taken that last august. That best scenerio is quite possible though, but dont get my hopes up.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Apr 8, 2009 12:23:47 GMT
Just got to keep the faith now. 3 Points would be heaven for us on Saturday and the lads know that.
We aren't safe yet but we can make it that way if we keep focused and nobody is better at keeping the team focused than Mr Tony Pulis.
GOARNNNN STOKE!
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Post by monkhousestokie on Apr 8, 2009 12:26:22 GMT
PROPER six pointer Saturday!!
Goaaarrrn Stoke!!
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 8, 2009 12:35:51 GMT
Whatever happens elsewhere, if we win on Saturday we're as good as safe. Fingers crossed...
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Post by marwood82 on Apr 8, 2009 12:57:09 GMT
i reckon as things stand if we get to 38 that means we will be in with a chance of staying up on the final day even if we win no more points for the rest of the season.
however it could mean sweating a bit on other results that day as to whether or not we got away with it.
40 = goal difference could come into play if results went bad.
41+ = safe.
with regards the teams around us I think the geordies have got it in them to get a couple of lucky wins. (hopefully not on saturday though!)
had a go at the score predictor thingy on the bbc yesterday.
may have been a bit kind to newcastle, but i did get them on 40 points.
hull 37(probably a bit harsh)
it also confirmed what i've been thinking for a few weeks in that Sunderland, only just made it to 36. their run in aint nice.
Middlesboro on 34. (and that included them beating hull)
brazil, - only positive thing i can say is that they've proven me wrong. i though they'd be gone before jade goody
so come on stoke. 2 wins at home and we're there!
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Post by Pedropotter on Apr 8, 2009 13:00:34 GMT
The first post is a reality check IMHO. Its too easy to think we are already there - far from it, there are more battles to be won before we can crack open the bubbly.
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Post by Block 26 on Apr 8, 2009 13:19:46 GMT
We are far from safe!
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Post by bunnyscfc on Apr 8, 2009 13:26:07 GMT
reading that has just made me stomach tie up in knots - both best and worst case scenarios.
TBH, trying to keep me mind off Saturday's game as I hate games where some of our fans go in all cocky and thinking it's a done deal. Stick with the snarling underdog tag TP - it suits us.
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Post by jorgieporgy on Apr 8, 2009 13:32:07 GMT
Yeah, I know far from safe just yet.We have just beaten the worst team in the Prem and before that Boro the 2nd worst. Next 2 matches the 3rd and 4th worst. Hope we've had all our bad luck. Blackburn were oh so jammy against Tottenham last week, so they don't deserve any more. Goooaaarrrrnnnn Stoke
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Apr 8, 2009 13:34:57 GMT
Far better that Hull beat Boro and keep them on 27 points...and we beat Newcastle..which keeps them on 29....We'd be on 38 and looking good...especially if Sunderland lose too and get dragged into the dog-fight...
Best of all..we just concentrate on our games...and after we've beaten Newcastle..we then go on to beat Blackburn....draw at Fulham...and celebrate staying up after beating West-Ham
No room for any complacency..especially taking into account the 'Typical-Stoke' factor....
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Post by One-Two on Apr 8, 2009 13:37:25 GMT
top post
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Post by bazzergriff on Apr 8, 2009 14:38:24 GMT
good thing is we will know the other results by our 5.30 kick off,
would expect l'pool to beat bburn and
manure to beat s'land
so a draw would actually still be an ok result for us
but a win would be fantastic!!!
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Post by barmystokie1 on Apr 8, 2009 14:44:17 GMT
good post ..... brings home reality that we are definitly not safe yet!!
a draw though is not a bad result as it maintains a 6 point gap with geordies
a win for me is all but safety as I cant see us blowing a 9point gap with 6 games to go.
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 8, 2009 14:51:32 GMT
reading that has just made me stomach tie up in knots - both best and worst case scenarios. TBH, trying to keep me mind off Saturday's game as I hate games where some of our fans go in all cocky and thinking it's a done deal. Stick with the snarling underdog tag TP - it suits us. We did this earlier in the season. We got ourselves up to a relatively mid-table position in the league and then the form dropped off. We need to keep it intimidating and to fight like we're playing for our lives. |
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Post by march4 on Apr 8, 2009 14:55:50 GMT
And do the worst case for the following week when we play Blackbum and we are back in the bottom 3.
42 points needed and I will relax.
If you think anything less, then you could be in for a nasty shock.
Don't forget, I did the prediction thingy, fully expecting us to be mid-table and we were relegated on 41 points by goal difference. It stunned me, but it goes to show what could happen.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 8, 2009 17:03:00 GMT
And do the worst case for the following week when we play Blackbum and we are back in the bottom 3. 42 points needed and I will relax. If you think anything less, then you could be in for a nasty shock. Don't forget, I did the prediction thingy, fully expecting us to be mid-table and we were relegated on 41 points by goal difference. It stunned me, but it goes to show what could happen. March and we COULD get into Europe. Yesterday you said you had us to beat Newcastle on Saturday for us to then go on to only take THREE points from our remaining six games, whilst Newcastle would somehow miraculously take TWELVE points from their remaining games. The point of doing the predictor is that it is in some way the results you enter into it are a tincy bit REALISTIC, otherwise you might as well just put us down to lose every game as a worst case scenario. We wont get into Europe and we wont get relegated on 41 points, in my humble (realistic) opinion. |
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Post by eddy_under_fire'sviews on Apr 8, 2009 17:46:39 GMT
I cant see us blowing a 9point gap with 6 games to go. neither can i, but supporting this football club has taught me that ANYTHING can happen. lets not count our chickens. we need to drag our boys over the finish line first, then let them try and go for Europe and the likes |
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Post by march4 on Apr 8, 2009 17:55:21 GMT
And do the worst case for the following week when we play Blackbum and we are back in the bottom 3. 42 points needed and I will relax. If you think anything less, then you could be in for a nasty shock. Don't forget, I did the prediction thingy, fully expecting us to be mid-table and we were relegated on 41 points by goal difference. It stunned me, but it goes to show what could happen. March and we COULD get into Europe. Yesterday you said you had us to beat Newcastle on Saturday for us to then go on to only take THREE points from our remaining six games, whilst Newcastle would somehow miraculously take TWELVE points from their remaining games. The point of doing the predictor is that it is in some way the results you enter into it are a tincy bit REALISTIC, otherwise you might as well just put us down to lose every game as a worst case scenario. We wont get into Europe and we wont get relegated on 41 points, in my humble (realistic) opinion. Paul that was the bit that stunned me. I spent ages analysing home and away form. I assumed the top 4 would romp away and the bottom 2 would collapse. Of our last 6 games, I fear Wet Sham as they are on a bit of a roll at the moment. Away to Arsenal and Fulham will bring nothing. Draws against Wigan and Blackburn are realistic and I feel we might scramble a draw at Hull. If we beat Newcastle (and that is not certain) we have 41 points. Easily avoiding relegation I thought, but no, relegated on goal difference from Hull and Newcastle. Worst case scenario perhaps, but it indicates that there is still a lot of work to be done this year. 42 points and I will start to celebrate. For the record, I will still be amazed if we go down in spite of this freak possible collection of results. |
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Post by DelapsWankingArm on Apr 8, 2009 18:14:22 GMT
just shows we are far from safe, wouldnt a draw between hull and boro be better?
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Post by Dingdangdoo on Apr 8, 2009 18:35:50 GMT
7 points needed from 7 games........................
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 8, 2009 19:12:41 GMT
It`s very rare for a non "big 4" side to win three games in a row, so personally i`d take a draw on saturday. It keeps that six points gap with a game less to play. 42 points has relegated a team once in seventeen years, cant see it happening this season.
Two more wins, or a win and three draws, regardless of who it comes against will see us safe. But there is still lots of work to be done.........
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Post by grayscfc on Apr 8, 2009 19:26:02 GMT
i know we all speculate on other results but the only thing that matters is stoke`s results, it`s in our hands and only stoke can throw it away, as long as we average 1 point per remaining game we`ll be safe. we can`t afford to rely on others fucking up, lets get behind the boys this saturday and reduce that avereage points needed.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Apr 8, 2009 19:35:38 GMT
I tried to say the other day that the 'worst case' scenario outlined in the top post, although very disappointing, would not be 'wrist slitting time' for us. It's highly unlikely that ALL those results would go against us but even if they did, we would be 3 points clear of the drop zone with 6 games to play and a much better set of fixtures than most of our competitors.
We MUST remain confident whatever happens on Saturday.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 9, 2009 0:28:21 GMT
I spent ages analysing home and away form. Even more baffling that you came up with the results that you did then. |
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