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Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 7, 2009 8:20:03 GMT
we stay up?
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Post by knowles on Apr 7, 2009 8:32:52 GMT
Not entirely sure but for each higher position you finish, you receive an additional £500K. I have a feeling you get a basic cheque of around £30 million.
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Post by surreystokie on Apr 7, 2009 22:30:37 GMT
oatcake, as I mentioned on here three weeks ago, the exact details of life in the PL are as follows. 1. Basic cash to all clubs, given at the start of the season. £13,534,463 2. Overseas TV money to all: £9,578,954. 3. TV facility fees (due if 10 or fewer appearances on TV) £5,662,945. Merit or ladder payments: £725,061 for each position in the PL, at the end of the season. That means that the bottom club gets that amount and so on..... So you can say £30M in total, for finishing bottom. Not bad, eh? And so important that we go for as high a position as possible, not content 'merely to survive. Not forgetting the inducement to buy more merchandise, sponsorships, private boxes, more prog's, advertising etcetera. In short, it really does pay to be there.  |
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Post by march4 on Apr 7, 2009 22:34:17 GMT
Every game counts doesn't it.
13th place would be a real bonus financially as well as psychologically.
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Post by mumf14 on Apr 7, 2009 22:35:24 GMT
oatcake, as I mentioned on here three weeks ago, the exact details of life in the PL are as follows. 1. Basic cash to all clubs, given at the start of the season. £13,534,463 2. Overseas TV money to all: £9,578,954. 3. TV facility fees (due if 10 or fewer appearances on TV) £5,662,945. Merit or ladder payments: £725,061 for each position in the PL, at the end of the season. That means that the bottom club gets that amount and so on..... So you can say £30M in total, for finishing bottom. Not bad, eh? And so important that we go for as high a position as possible, not content 'merely to survive. Not forgetting the inducement to buy more merchandise, sponsorships, private boxes, more prog's, advertising etcetera. In short, it really does pay to be there. It's like reading a epitaph for those who believe in the sentiments behind 'The beautiful game'. "Great if your're in it...not so if your're not"  |
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Post by chrispk76 on Apr 7, 2009 22:41:42 GMT
so if we survive by the skin of our teeth we get £31,676,606 if we lose to castle then blackburn i'd gladly snap their hands off for that measley sum  |
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 7, 2009 22:45:04 GMT
Doesn`t end there though does it??
increased Gate revenue, season tickets, corporate hospitality, club shop revenue, sponsorship, must make the whole thing up to 60 million
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Post by dozintheseventees on Apr 7, 2009 22:46:06 GMT
I'm reminded of the scene from 'Oliver' when the fat cats are carving the joint to go with the table full of food. At the same time, those who depend upon their generosity stare in through the window at all that is not available to them.
Seriously, it is a bit like that but I know we have waited many years for our turn. I hate the way it's all gone but there's no way back. We can only try to make the most of our opportunity
and, at least we are a shining example to those with aspirations, that it CAN be done.
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Post by stokey-pokey pudding and pie on Apr 7, 2009 22:46:09 GMT
by my maths, 17th means 2.9 m(ladder payment), 13th is double that!
i reckon we could get jose enrique, james morrison or gary o'neil for 5.8 million
fuck it, we finish top half and the z man is a stoke !!
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Post by crimesy on Apr 7, 2009 22:50:15 GMT
Do you think Zigic is aware that he is a legend here without ever playing? ;D
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Post by One-Two on Apr 7, 2009 23:41:26 GMT
Every game counts doesn't it. 13th place would be a real bonus financially as well as psychologically. and an attractive prospect for potential signings too |
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Post by Mozzaa on Apr 8, 2009 8:22:19 GMT
Do you think Zigic is aware that he is a legend here without ever playing? ;D We should have a statue in The City Centre in the Square bit between Lloyds TSB, Alliance & Leicester, The Newsagent's etc to commemorate such a Legend that is Big Zig  |
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Post by ti on Apr 8, 2009 9:02:29 GMT
well i sent him a christmas card so i hope he knows
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Post by lawrieleslie on Apr 8, 2009 10:14:35 GMT
Dunner get that. What happens if you make more than 10 appearances? Shunner it be other way round cuz of lost gate revenue? Am I being a thick devon twat here or what?
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Apr 8, 2009 10:59:11 GMT
Dunner get that. What happens if you make more than 10 appearances? Shunner it be other way round cuz of lost gate revenue? Am I being a thick devon twat here or what? AAarr mate you aaaaarrrr!! |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Apr 8, 2009 11:05:24 GMT
Thats fine percy but you onner explaining the logic behind the original statement very clearly.
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Post by stokelad84 on Apr 8, 2009 11:36:43 GMT
If you make more than 10 appearances, then you get more than the £5.6m Simples  |
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Post by Bick on Apr 8, 2009 11:51:02 GMT
The pride is more important than the money for me... But 30mil?... WOO HOO!
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Post by Dr Oetcake on Apr 8, 2009 12:08:04 GMT
yer conner put a price on pride, and in these dark times, something we can really celebrate..
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Post by surreystokie on Apr 8, 2009 12:13:20 GMT
percy, for every appearance over ten, you get an extra tenth. So don't woyry about Man Utd going broke just yet. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 8, 2009 12:17:44 GMT
Add all that up and it means that for a 10th place finish we'd get £35 million ish. Add to that the fact that our income excluding transfers in and out was about £11 million last season and that gives £46 million. Increased gate money and sponsorship and merchandising would take the total to over £50 million - or nearly 5 times our income last season!!!!
Well worth playing to the final whistle of the last game (to maximise the "merit" payments) I'd say.
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Post by smapples on Apr 8, 2009 12:20:15 GMT
I think we should blow the whole wodge on a brazilian maverick.
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Post by surreystokie on Apr 8, 2009 12:26:15 GMT
Just realised that my comment on 'over ten matches on TV' may be a bit unclear. Put better, I meant that for 10 or fewer matches on TV a club will get £725,061 x ten. (£7.25M) in total, at the end of the season. For every additional showing, it will receive another £725,061 And so on......... Sorry folks. Just don't expect me to be literate when in this state of high delirium, but I'm doing my best. |
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Post by stokecity4eva on Apr 8, 2009 15:56:19 GMT
Just realised that my comment on 'over ten matches on TV' may be a bit unclear. Put better, I meant that for 10 or fewer matches on TV a club will get £725,061 x ten. (£7.25M) in total, at the end of the season. For every additional showing, it will receive another £725,061 And so on......... Sorry folks. Just don't expect me to be literate when in this state of high delirium, but I'm doing my best. do we get the tv money as a lump some at the beginning of season then??? and is that just for the sky and setanta games cause if it isnt then we have been on telly somewhere in the world for nearly every game we've played this year meaning we should get plenty more than that original tv money dont we also get some money from bbc and sky for the highlights??? |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 8, 2009 16:12:12 GMT
Monica I think you are making a mistake. The £725,061 payments relate to merit (ie place) payments and NOT the televised game payments which are £5,662,945. for the first 10 televised games with further payments for games beyond 10 games.
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Post by basingstokie on Apr 8, 2009 16:18:48 GMT
We could buy 6 Dave Kitson's with that
Frankly a huge amount of money to spend on signings and wages in the Summer, we could easily f*** off some of the dross for free just to get rid of wages and then spend £20m on players with £10m on their wages.
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Post by surreystokie on Apr 9, 2009 9:54:32 GMT
Lakeland, correct. I warned that my present state is dodgy, although have now put myself in detention, but only until Saturday morning. |
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