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Post by stokepod on Mar 30, 2009 15:09:42 GMT
The latest Stoke City etc podcast is well and truly packed. We speak to two journalists from national newspapers who are at either end of the spectrum when it comes to opinions on the Potters. John Cross from the Mirror thinks that Stoke can't be praised enough and that Tony Pulis should be manager of the season. Jeremy Alexander is of a rather different viewpoint. The Guardian reporter outraged Stoke fans recently in a rather scathing report on the Boro game in which he criticised just about everything at Stoke City. Hear what they have to say in two indepth interviews. We also chat to a trio of local radio reporters as we preview Stoke's next three crucial games. Listen out for some very forthright views and interesting opinions. All this together with your emails and the quiz on the number one potters podcast. Download it now from www.stokecityetc.co.uk or subscribe via itunes. Do let us know what you think by posting below... |
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Post by salopstick on Mar 30, 2009 15:15:09 GMT
will get that one done tonight - good work lads
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Post by georgeberrysafro on Mar 30, 2009 17:13:59 GMT
Excellent, I just caught up with the three previous podcasts while doing the cleaning at the weekend, all top notch again. I'll download this one tonight as it sounds very interesting, great to have a range of outside views on what's going on at Stoke.
As for current players being on the podcast I was never too fussed, we hear enough from them anyway and they're not going to say anything different than what they say on Radio Stoke etc anyway. Having the likes of Cranson, Stein, Berry, Toddy etc is worth far more and it has been great to hear from them all this season.
Keep up the great work as always!
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 30, 2009 17:32:57 GMT
Well I formed my opinion (rightly or wrongly) of Jeremy from the first words he uttered and it didn't really change from then on.
Boro's centre halves knocked the living daylights out of Ric, yet Alexander still manages to berate him.
Fair play for coming on and saying your piece Jezza, but let me allow myself to fall into your own stereotyping of our fans, and call you a condescending prick.
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Post by bertieb on Mar 30, 2009 19:31:57 GMT
Upper class twat, he did'nt even know about Delilah being our song which tells me all I need to know about his football knowledge.
RS
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 30, 2009 19:49:51 GMT
Upper class twat, he did'nt even know about Delilah being our song which tells me all I need to know about his football knowledge. RS Spot on bertieb, he has reported on us a couple of times this year so it's not like he won't have heard us sing it before. What I want to know is, at what point in his journalistic career did his head get so far up his arse that he stopped asking questions or decided not to do any decent research? He is an odious little man who went on to look down his stuck up nose at both Rochdale and Plymouth, claiming he didn't mind going to such places and having a good time! Well fuck me, he doesn't mind getting paid to report on a football match, even if it is Plymouth! (They play in the Championship by the way Jeremy, you know; the division below the Premier League, it's not park football is it you arrogant toff?) |
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Post by serpico on Mar 30, 2009 19:58:33 GMT
Just listening now, he wishes the crowd weren't so hostile  |
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Post by serpico on Mar 30, 2009 20:06:39 GMT
Hah, Question: "who should stoke be aware of in the baggies team" Baggies fan: "nobody"  |
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Post by winger on Mar 30, 2009 22:41:03 GMT
Old Duffer. Sounds as though he's in the wrong job really. Though there was that good bit where he said he could, 'See what the Pulis-Hating Wankstains were referring to in the general thrust of their observations and nuances of their opinions.'
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Post by Tubes on Mar 30, 2009 23:53:09 GMT
"the fans don't recognise good football when they see it"
"I'm all in favour of passion but I don't like to see it get out of hand...it gets over aggressive and positively hostile and I don't find it goes well in a sporting context"
- Alexander
what a tosser.
great podcast by the way.
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Post by scfcrob on Mar 31, 2009 10:02:46 GMT
Best one yet in my humble opinion.
If you haven't listened before then listen to this one!
Nick was great interviewing the Guardian t*sser. He certainly had to crawl back under his stone when backtracking the Philistine headline. Fair play to him appearing though - I expect a much better piece from him next time. These two are in the wrong jobs - Nick should be the Guardian Journo!
The Mirror man was very gushing in his praise and seems to be a realist and down to earth.
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Post by nick_stoke on Mar 31, 2009 10:28:38 GMT
just listenening to that prick jeremeys voice, explains everything, what what..
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Post by xchpotter on Mar 31, 2009 10:31:05 GMT
I don't post often but listening to Alexander has made me angry. What a completely deluded idiot. He is everything that typifies the elitist, lefty Guardian reading teacher/social worker brigade....out of touch with reality yet he thinks he is doing the fans of Plymouth, Bristol and us a huge favour by gracing us with his presence. I have a vision of him wearing comfy slippers, a smoking jacket and sipping a glass of Pimms while others indulge him by listening to his ramblings.
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Post by rorymscfc on Mar 31, 2009 12:34:04 GMT
Credit to the bloke for coming on and facing the questions but I think he only serves to represent the gentrification and sterilisation of football in the Premier League that many of us abhor.
RoryM
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Post by OldStokie on Mar 31, 2009 13:34:39 GMT
Great podcast. Well done. Again!  That comment is no different than his comments on Shawcross. Here's my twopennyworth. The old dear is living in a world that no longer exists. Or, it only exists in the boardrooms and executive suites of Chelsea and Arsenal and the like. Ours is a rough old world where we call a spade a spade and drink out of chipped pots, whereas, I'm pretty sure, Our Jeremy would turn his nose up at supping a cuppa out of anything less than our very own high class Wedgwood. I'd actually like to meet him. I reckon he'd be at home on the Boskamp Bummer Bus. winger would entertain him about The Arts while Elt would explain the merits or otherwise of negative publicity. RAF, Mr Pink and myself would represent the abusive element of our being. Swiss Tony would just snigger. AndyP would get his soapbox out and teach him a thing or two about being a real lefty. Jackson and The Miximator would just bugger off and leave it to us to sort him out.  At least the old dear had the courage to try and defend the indefensible. 'They'. He used that term quite a lot. 'They' as in sterotyping. I can assure Jeremy that 'They' would much prefer to see the ball played along the ground and for us to outplay other teams. Unfortunately, 'We' cannot afford that luxury. 'They', as in West Brazil, have found that out to their cost. Horses for courses, Jeremy, old chap. We can't all be the dog's bollox.   ;D I reckon Momo is the one who has really upset him. He was a tad bombastic in his critism of the old fella. OS. |
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Post by ted1965 on Mar 31, 2009 14:59:43 GMT
What had Stoke City done that was so offensive, apparently we supported our heroes a little to vigorously for a certain Mr Jeremy Alexander’s liking. It seems he would have preferred a much quieter afternoon. He compared us to Philistines because we are crude and boorish, oh dear who ever heard of football supporters being crude, have to say I was shocked at the link between football crowds and vulgarity. It’s always been the case people tend to let off steam at a football ground in a way they wouldn’t anywhere else. I don’t see any problem with that as long as it doesn’t descend into, over the top personal abuse, racism or lead to violence. that’s what football was and is meant to be, an escape from reality for a few hours on a Saturday afternoon. An opportunity to meet like minded people in support of your beloved club. It seems we admire the partisan crowds of the continent yet when such an atmosphere is created at home it’s somehow distasteful and unpleasant. Football has been tribal ever since it was created and if we as a club have created a totally partisan tribal atmosphere then we are fulfilling the purpose of supporters in helping their heroes. Like every club we have an element who have let the club down over the years but the overwhelming majority of supporters are decent people wanting to make a difference from the stands to help their club thrive and survive.
We were also not a pleasure on the eye, nobody suggested we are Brazil like in our approach. We have no grandiose delusions about our style unlike a certain side not so far away.. We’re different, we play to our strengths, we try and use all the advantages we have and most of all we play hard but fair. I don’t think there was one supporter who claimed we were the better side last week in terms of football played but I would ask which does he think Middlesboro would have preferred, to have played the more pleasing football or to have collected three points, no prizes for guessing the answer. I am sure he would point to the Tony Mowbray philosophy of it’s not the result but the way you play that counts. I wonder how many Albion supporters will share that sentiment in May. Whether we like it or not football is a results business and entertainment comes second it may not always be palatable but it’s fact. If you are fortunate enough to see both then you’re truly in heaven. I think the vast majority of supporters hope to see the style of play evolve if we establish ourselves in the Premiership.
What match was this man watching, Middlesboro were as physical if not more so than we were and yet he waffles on about how we tried to bully poor Middlesboro. I wonder what he wrote about Leeds United in the 70’s. it seems he’s living in some Utopian time warp.
As for not knowing what good football is about, excuse me Jeremy old fruit but I totally understand about good football and have seen plenty of it along the way. So should we cheer the opposition when they play well, maybe we should begin to chant their names and clap wildly when they do well. What planet is this man from, can you imagine any sides supporters appreciating the good play of the opposition.
It seems Jeremy has since glossed over his attack on Ryan because he committed the crime of not being articulate enough for his liking by saying, well it wasn’t as bad as the local reporter straight after the game. So that’s okay then, a journalist who has been covering football for 40 years simply ignores his uncalled for attack on a young player with the excuse it could have been worse. It’s like a school bully explaining he only joined in because others had done so moments before and therefore he wasn‘t really to blame. No Jeremy, you belittled a talented young player to validate your point about the crowd at Stoke, the inference was Ryan matched his surroundings perfectly he was indeed a Philistine performing for his followers. Jeremy went on to say he had pointed out the same traits in others as a defence, so it wasn’t a personal attack on a Stoke player. The next thing you’ll be telling us, you were somehow helping Ryan by pointing out his need for some elocution lessons, no doubt you’ll offer your services at a very reasonable rate.
I would like to see your articles on Wayne Rooney or Rio Ferdinand based in their inability to string two words together after a game. Mr Alexander, they both make young Ryan sound like an Oxford Don. Though I doubt you’d have the guts to write such inflammatory garbage about either, you’d have a certain Mr Ferguson to deal with..
It seems you miscalculated the strength of feeling we supporters have for our club, it’s players and our tolerance levels for absolute garbage written about either. Then I am sure you can justify anything, the truth is after all a commodity to be used and abused as and when the situation arises.
well done for having the guts to answer questions but oh dear maybe one should think before one types in future as you seem to have had more U turns than a cornered politician. I suggest the baot race would have been a much more enjoyable and understandable afternoon for Jezz.
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Post by stokepod on Mar 31, 2009 15:28:23 GMT
Thanks for all the feedback - keep it coming. We hope to have Bertie Biggins on next week's show...
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Post by Premier League Busta Rhymes on Apr 2, 2009 10:02:16 GMT
This is probably the third best podcast all season, behind Jeff Stelling & Jonathan Pearce, great effort keep it up! Great interview with Jeremy, it was like a grilling & he was on the ropes. You should really get a job in radio! Fair play to him for coming on but I think he should stick to tea & biscuits at Lords or the Emirates. The best part of the is still Lora reading our the e-mail  Also can we have the daily mirror guy on everyweek |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 2, 2009 18:26:38 GMT
Had someone just woken Jeremy up for his medication, he didn't really seem to know where he was or what he was supposed to have done. I feel bad now sending such a forthright email to him, I would have been far more gentle had I known his slippers were as moist as Old Stokies.
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Post by OldStokie on Apr 2, 2009 21:02:24 GMT
You're never gentle with me, Victor, you bastard! I reckon it's because I don't type with plums in my mouth. OS. |
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Post by knowles on Apr 3, 2009 8:31:47 GMT
Fair play to Alexander for coming on the podcast but what an absolute knob he comes across as. The Delilah comment sums him up.
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Post by ted1965 on Apr 3, 2009 8:39:28 GMT
olstokie mate I think Jez had someone else's plums in his mouth while typing.
I wonder which side he favours, his words I believe, surely you support a club though it would explain a lot if he only favours them, my guess would be Arsenal but I could be wrong.
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