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Post by tiemetothemast on Mar 24, 2009 18:14:31 GMT
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Post by wembley4372 on Mar 24, 2009 18:21:41 GMT
nicely put
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Post by Anto1962 on Mar 24, 2009 18:22:11 GMT
well said David I think you have summed him up perfectly.
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Post by Baggs on Mar 24, 2009 18:25:53 GMT
nice one
here's my email to him from yesterday morning (haven't had time to put it up yet)
tojeremy.alexander@guardianunlimited.co.uk
ccfootball.editor@guardianunlimited.co.uk
date23 March 2009 11:19
subjectStoke-Boro article
mailed-bygmail.com
hide details 23 Mar (1 day ago) Reply
Hi Jeremy
I read your article on the Guardian website today, and boy do you sound angry. I can only apologise on behalf of all those at the Britannia Stadium who don't eat prawn sandwiches and sit on their seats like good little boys. I must also apologise for any 'offensive vulgarity' (not a measure of noise anyone else has ever heard of, though you seemed to be in doubt) you may have heard - I'm sure you never hear it at any other Premiership grounds.
To dismiss the game's label of 'six pointer' really confirms your ignorance, especially as it seems you have already perused the fixture list. What you should have found was that each game between sides in the bottom 8 or so are all 'six-pointers', since the league is, after all, a zero-sum game (even allowing for 3 points for a win).
I'm puzzled as to why you thought Delap's throw was Stoke's only weapon - especially as you later mention Beattie's 5 goals in 7 games (none of which came from throws - perhaps it's difficult for you to keep track when you're on your regular Championship beat). Also you missed out the excellent work of Lawrence on the right,
As for your dislike of Stoke's physicality, might I remind you that football was a predominantly physical game for almost 130 years until the advent of the Premiership, and the current crop of whining, cheating, petulant little turds that turn an episode of Match of the Day into a perverse cross between the ham soap drama of Coronation Street, and the unco-ordinated tumbles of the earliest evictees of Dancing on Ice. You conveniently forgot to mention the decent penalty shout Stoke had for Huth's challenge on Fuller after about 15 minutes - or indeed for Pogatetz's cynical foul on Fuller shortly afterward. And do you really believe Whelan should have been booked for the challenge on Shawky? On that basis surely Ronaldo should serve a 30-match ban for his cynical challenge on Danny Murphy on Saturday! Oh, and you also forgot about Tuncay's disgusting dive late on in a vain attempt to 'win' a penalty.
It worked except for the lack of goals / results matter more than means to some - Perhaps you should familiarise yourself with the rules of the game before you thrust forth your opinions so carelessly. An attacking tactic doesn't work if it doesn't result in goals - does a pretty kettle work if it doesn't boil? No, it's just pretty (useless) - and hence, results mean everything. Perhaps you should look at the football played by West Bromich/Brazil Albion - summed up perfectly by one of your superior contemporaries yesterday as "disintegrating upon contact with the opposition penalty area". Where are WBA in the table?
Unfortunately while people like yourself are still permitted to hack away at your keyboards, the Guardian will ever remain fit only for lighting fires or wrapping fish. I urge your editor to replace you with journalists who i) can maintain a theme throughout an article, rather than ham-fistedly tack it on in the last paragraph, ii) understand the rules of football - especially the way in which it is scored, and iii) do not have some strange inferiority complex which manifests itself in idle criticism and vitriol towards groups and things not fully understood. As your superior counterpart at the Daily Mirror (not a common occurrence) noted today - "The Britannia Stadium is no place for the faint-hearted". Perhaps you should stay away in future, lest your irrational anger have an adverse impact on your weak little heart.
Regards
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 24, 2009 18:28:55 GMT
Ten out of ten, David - that'll learn him to mess wiv us! ;D
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Mar 24, 2009 18:35:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2009 20:37:08 GMT
WE ARE STOKE, WE ARE STOKE , WE ARE STOKE!!!!
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Post by jacka118 on Mar 24, 2009 20:42:12 GMT
GGGGGGGOOOOOAAAAARRRNNNN!! I love proving this idiots wrong
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Post by tiemetothemast on Mar 24, 2009 20:45:46 GMT
Ha ha Baggers! Bloody excellent email.
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Post by walrus on Mar 24, 2009 20:47:28 GMT
I like your reply baggers, did he ever get back to you?
This is my favourite line: ''whining, cheating, petulant little turds that turn an episode of Match of the Day into a perverse cross between the ham soap drama of Coronation Street, and the unco-ordinated tumbles of the earliest evictees of Dancing on Ice.''
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Post by boothenboy75 on Mar 24, 2009 20:54:36 GMT
Ive sent the tosser an e-mail as well:
Having read your recent match report (Stoke vs. Boro), I believe that you are in urgent need of some form of counselling. In our health and safety obsessed world, your supervisor needs to take responsibility for your fragile state, and he will hopefully send you to quieter parts of the world in future (Old Trafford?). It will be interesting to see if you pour as much scorn over Wayne Rooney's media interviews as you do over our own Ryan Shawcross. I very much doubt that you would have the bottle to do so.
Your comments regarding the England U21 Internationals media skills show what an obnoxious, small minded, odious little creep you really are. I think it's only fair, that as you have ridiculed our centre halves media work, then the boot should now be placed on the other foot. Why don't you nip back to the Britannia (ear plugs can be provided, to protect your delicate little ears), and demonstrate your football skills, this would provide far more belly laughs than Ryan's interview. Once again I doubt you'd have the bottle.
Although I'm no expert, I doubt Stoke-on-Trent figures relatively highly In the Guardians circulation figures, and calling the locals philistines is hardly likely to alter this. Stoke City and by association Stoke-on-Trent have received their fair share of stick from many quarters this season. This is the first time I have been moved to e-mail anyone regarding this unfair criticism. Your cowardly attack on Shawcross and egotistical attack on the people of Stoke-on-Trent shows that it is not just the tabloids who practice the art of gutter journalism.
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Post by monkhousestokie on Mar 24, 2009 20:56:39 GMT
Well done Dave, lovely stuff.
First-rate piss and vinegar!
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Post by cantspellwontspell on Mar 24, 2009 21:13:42 GMT
great blog as usual dave
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Post by tijuanabrass on Mar 25, 2009 1:42:17 GMT
Nice response mate. I'd have commenetd on the Telegraph site but couldn't be arsed registering.  |
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Post by jen on Mar 25, 2009 7:23:45 GMT
Here’s how I imagine a conversation between Jeremy Alexander and his Editor when writing that “piece”:
JA: I’m doing this match report on Stoke vs Middlesbrough, but I’m still struggling with copy…
Ed: Let’s see, have you downloaded all the usual stuff from the template: “physical” “muscular” “intimidating” “long throw”, “set pieces”, “giant players”…
JA; Yes, got all that in.
Ed: Well who was the goal-scorer? Can’t you get any “dirt” on him to put in? Is he foreign? Funny haircut? Overpriced? Fallen out with the manager? Unpopular with fans? Has he been in trouble with the police? Wife beater? Drink driving? Been arrested after a brawl in bar?
JA: No nothing….Seems he’s a young, talented, English lad, showing real promise and just been selected for England U21’s.
Ed: Scratches head..”You sure this lad plays for Stoke?”
JA: Apparently. Actually I was chatting to someone at the Manchester United supporters club meeting in Islington recently (nice sandwiches by the way). He reckoned that Shawcross is an ex United player and he actually turned down a contract with United to go and play for Stoke in the Championship. Obviously that's rubbish - the guy must have had one too many G&Ts.
Ed: Well there must be something bad you can say about him – what about his post-match interview….
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Post by Danstoke82 on Mar 25, 2009 8:14:20 GMT
Great piece David, sums it all up. Unfortunately these "football experts" as they call themselves are so deluded and in much love for the dream of the "Big Four" that any one else who actually put up a fight to stay in the Premier League are instantly deemed the bad guys. This season it's us, but sod it, the more they hate us the more we go out to get even better.
Jeremy Alexander can join the group that holds Derek McGovern and Mick Dennis....oh and Adrian Durham....Ian Wright....Paddy Power...the list goes on.... and rot.
As long as we get the results on the pitch then thats what matters most.
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Post by lancer on Mar 25, 2009 9:17:47 GMT
Here’s how I imagine a conversation between Jeremy Alexander and his Editor when writing that “piece”: JA: I’m doing this match report on Stoke vs Middlesbrough, but I’m still struggling with copy… Ed: Let’s see, have you downloaded all the usual stuff from the template: “physical” “muscular” “intimidating” “long throw”, “set pieces”, “giant players”… JA; Yes, got all that in. Ed: Well who was the goal-scorer? Can’t you get any “dirt” on him to put in? Is he foreign? Funny haircut? Overpriced? Fallen out with the manager? Unpopular with fans? Has he been in trouble with the police? Wife beater? Drink driving? Been arrested after a brawl in bar? JA: No nothing….Seems he’s a young, talented, English lad, showing real promise and just been selected for England U21’s. Ed: Scratches head..”You sure this lad plays for Stoke?” JA: Apparently. Actually I was chatting to someone at the Manchester United supporters club meeting in Islington recently (nice sandwiches by the way). He reckoned that Shawcross is an ex United player and he actually turned down a contract with United to go and play for Stoke in the Championship. Obviously that's rubbish - the guy must have had one too many G&Ts. Ed: Well there must be something bad you can say about him – what about his post-match interview…. Great post. ;D |
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Post by surreystokie on Mar 25, 2009 10:02:43 GMT
Had already read you, Dave, on Why Delilah. And thoroughly enjoyed.
I can recommend the site, with Dave, Smudge, Simon Lowe and others featuring regularly and well worth the read.
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Post by ted1965 on Mar 25, 2009 10:14:59 GMT
absolute quality well said.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Mar 25, 2009 10:18:41 GMT
The eloquence of your considered responses guys surely prohibits you from being real Stoke fans. PS - Tie me to the mast, great read Dave. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 25, 2009 10:18:44 GMT
I think with all the Stokie pride mustered on this board in the last few days we should invade a small country to see if we can start a Stokie empire! ;D |
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Post by tiemetothemast on Mar 25, 2009 11:51:30 GMT
Good idea, Bayern. I went to the Isle of Man with a mate a few years ago to drink beer and watch the traditional pre-season games. Good pubs, nice scenery - let's invade. Everyone assemble at Holyhead docks at 14.00 hours prompt the day after the Arsenal game. Don't forget to bring guns and stuff.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 25, 2009 11:54:30 GMT
Sounds like a plan! I wonder if the club will put on free coach travel?  |
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