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Post by Dave the Rave on Mar 14, 2009 15:47:58 GMT
You can plainly see, as has been shown in previous matches, that Lawrence & Diao are not up to this standard of football.
Everton are better than us, so i'm not going to freak about the current scoreline, but in order to compete better, players like those mentioned above need to be shipped out.
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Post by stokemark on Mar 14, 2009 16:01:13 GMT
Think youre right Dave
Im not sure about Etheringtons fitness and can understand him being on the bench but he is certainly a much better player than Lenny at this level
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Post by dozintheseventees on Mar 14, 2009 16:06:02 GMT
Dave,
The first man to speak some sense
'EVERTON ARE BETTER THAN US'
That's why were losing NOT TP's tactics
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Post by stokelad84 on Mar 14, 2009 16:09:47 GMT
I concur! ^^^
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Post by kingdeano on Mar 14, 2009 16:12:39 GMT
lawrence??? do you ever go watch stoke? liam is one of our better players, if pulis is so untouchable then where is the 30m worth of talent he as bought?
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Post by sheikh al dubai bin stokie on Mar 14, 2009 16:35:31 GMT
lawrence??? do you ever go watch stoke? liam is one of our better players, if pulis is so untouchable then where is the 30m worth of talent he as bought? well 16% of that is at the Madjeski Stadium
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Post by harrysburrow on Mar 14, 2009 16:44:32 GMT
16%! Sounds even worse when you put it like that.
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Post by Ron Burgundy on Mar 14, 2009 16:48:01 GMT
I really can't see what he sees in Diao?
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Post by kingdeano on Mar 14, 2009 16:54:04 GMT
instead of pointing fingers at lawrence, id point a huge one at danny higginbotham. the bloke is fucking awful
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Post by Peters Pipe on Mar 14, 2009 16:58:55 GMT
instead of pointing fingers at lawrence, id point a huge one at danny higginbotham. the bloke is fucking awful Higginbotham's distribution is absolutely dire, I know that's not really news, but we can't afford hit and hope belts up the park like that. Wilko has improved leaps and bounds and has been seen knocking it along the floor to Lawrence, great to see.....no product today but at least he has a go at keeping the ball.
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Post by staffsstokie on Mar 14, 2009 17:01:34 GMT
Players like Lawrence and Diao ar steady performers on their day, and are not 'shite' by any means.
A better team than us, who are sixth in the league for a reason, beat us comfortably at home.
there's no need to point blame, it was always going to be a tough game. When people were working out where we'd get points between now and the end of the season, did anyone have us getting anything today? i don't think so.
Three points against 'boro and all is right with the worls again.
lets keep it in perspective.
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Post by northstokie on Mar 14, 2009 17:03:50 GMT
You can plainly see, as has been shown in previous matches, that Lawrence & Diao are not up to this standard of football. Everton are better than us, so i'm not going to freak about the current scoreline, but in order to compete better, players like those mentioned above need to be shipped out. Agree on Diao but totally disagree on Lawrence - excellent deadball delivery today and a useful hard working outlet who can keep the ball
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Post by GazMcNicol on Mar 14, 2009 17:08:21 GMT
instead of pointing fingers at lawrence, id point a huge one at danny higginbotham. the bloke is fucking awful HaHaHa you'd point your huge one at Danny? ;D ;D
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Post by Irish Stokie on Mar 14, 2009 17:19:50 GMT
Diao is shite and clearly not a Prem player but i think Liam is a very important player for us and will have a big say in our survival. Excellent dead balls and a good player and although his ditribution is very poor Hiigy is far from shite and a very goo defender
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Post by Peters Pipe on Mar 14, 2009 17:22:22 GMT
Diao is shite and clearly not a Prem player but i think Liam is a very important player for us and will have a big say in our survival. Excellent dead balls and a good player and although his ditribution is very poor Hiigy is far from shite and a very goo defender Agreed Higgy is a good defender, and maybe with Etherington perhaps starting it'll give him a better option than a punt in to no-mans land?
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Post by french toast on Mar 14, 2009 17:23:01 GMT
instead of pointing fingers at lawrence, id point a huge one at danny higginbotham. the bloke is fucking awful HaHaHa you'd point your huge one at Danny? ;D ;D cheers that made me chuckle, im not in as bad a mood as i was now, do ya want a kiss for that??? ;D
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Post by Janet in ST5 on Mar 14, 2009 17:23:10 GMT
Liam is good, but there are times (like today) where I could slap him within an inch of his life. TP says he's a bit stupid, and he's not wrong. His corners are so much better that Whelan's, but he does really need to get his attitude sorted out.
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Post by Norfolkstokie in manchester on Mar 14, 2009 17:23:51 GMT
Players like Lawrence and Diao ar steady performers on their day, and are not 'shite' by any means. A better team than us, who are sixth in the league for a reason, beat us comfortably at home. there's no need to point blame, it was always going to be a tough game. When people were working out where we'd get points between now and the end of the season, did anyone have us getting anything today? i don't think so. Three points against 'boro and all is right with the worls again. lets keep it in perspective. Agree 100%. I think Lawrence is good enough too, still not fully fit after all
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Mar 14, 2009 17:26:43 GMT
I think the problem with Liam is that he thinks he is better than he actually is. Last season he was facing Championship full-backs who he could skin with ease. He just can't do that in the Prem, the step up as we all know is huge. He is going have to be a bit more clever or he is just going to become a liability beacause he is loosing the ball, in promising positions, too often.
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Post by Peters Pipe on Mar 14, 2009 17:29:55 GMT
He is going have to be a bit more clever...... Therein lies the problem!
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Mar 14, 2009 17:30:55 GMT
He is going have to be a bit more clever...... Therein lies the problem! fair point Peters! ;D ;D
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Post by GazMcNicol on Mar 14, 2009 18:39:24 GMT
;D HaHaHa you'd point your huge one at Danny? ;D ;D cheers that made me chuckle, im not in as bad a mood as i was now, do ya want a kiss for that??? ;D Go on then, but no tongues, the missus is watching!
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